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New Scope for new rifle build #8142679 01/25/21 02:55 PM
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I am having a 300 PRC built at Alamo... I own 15lb rifles and don't want another; however optics are probably more important to me than the rifle itself. I have Nightforce on several rifles and love them. I have ATACRs with giant 35MM tubes and FFP but they are quite heavy. Want to keep the FFP... Like Nightforce.... Want to save weight... Must have good glass... Must be Mil Mil (Thanks for getting me sorted out on this a couple years back Jason). Any ideas for those parameters as a guide??? Stick with NF? Other good glass??




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I'm not sure the weight of all of them. Give NF NX8 a look. Took it back to a 30mm tube and a 50mm objective.

The SHV F-1 is pretty dang good. The turrets don't have hard clicks, they're a little soft. But the ones I've used load developing customers rifles tracked just fine and returned to zero.

Good glass, good internals, FFP all rolled into one scope, along with light weight still doesn't exist, unfortunately.


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Re: New Scope for new rifle build [Re: 2000cbr929] #8142695 01/25/21 03:04 PM
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FFP and light(er) = March


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Re: New Scope for new rifle build [Re: Judd] #8142711 01/25/21 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Judd
FFP and light(er) = March


This ^^^


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You may want more scope, but the 4-16x42 ATACR is 30oz. You're not going to beat that by much and stay FFP, IMO. The March F is 3-24 is 24oz, could be an option. Bushnell LRHS/LRTS is ~26-27oz


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I'm just imagining such a rifle (too poor to buy one, yet!) and I would think having the broadest range of magnification would be more important criteria than a few ounce. Something like a the nightforce nx8 2.5-20 seems tailor made for this application. I assume nightforce's reputation for durability extend to this line and 24 vs 28 oz, I guess I ain't a _______ so the weight seems negligible. A 500-600yds kill shot seems very doable with this rifle and 20x.
There's a 3-18x trijicon that seems like an "ultimate hunting" scope to me but i'm a trijicon fanboy.

In today's market, i think some of the these 6 to 8 times magnifiers are some the coolest scopes regardless the precise scope.


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Originally Posted by BOBO the Clown
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FFP and light(er) = March


This ^^^


My apologies. I consistently forget about March. Got one bud that has one and loves it.


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Originally Posted by QuitShootinYoungBucks
Bushnell LRHS/LRTS is ~26-27oz


Bushnell does make some really good stuff. I've got a 5 year old EHS, and still use it weekly.


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Sounds like a hunting rifle build?
If Alamo is building it ..it aint.gonna be cheap, but I see the problem. Need the weight reduction but want magnification.
There are plenty of good choices, but most.will be heavy.
I would look at Leupold VX6 HD series, but not sure if they come in Mil ?


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Originally Posted by FiremanJG
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FFP and light(er) = March


This ^^^


My apologies. I consistently forget about March. Got one bud that has one and loves it.


I grabbed Barneywho’s one evening to see how the reticle did at dusk. I was pleasantly surprised by glass running it next to Swaro


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Bushnell LRHS/LRTS is ~26-27oz


Bushnell does make some really good stuff. I've got a 5 year old EHS, and still use it weekly.


The LRHS, SHV, Razor where all once made in the same factory to individual company specs by light optical. I suspect that includes Mark but I’m not sure.


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FFP and light(er) = March


This ^^^


My apologies. I consistently forget about March. Got one bud that has one and loves it.


I grabbed Barneywho’s one evening to see how the reticle did at dusk. I was pleasantly surprised by glass running it next to Swaro


Which one does he have? The 3-24's MSRP is $2700; it better be darned good for that.


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Originally Posted by BOBO the Clown
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FFP and light(er) = March


This ^^^


This or S&B


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I grabbed Barneywho’s one evening to see how the reticle did at dusk. I was pleasantly surprised by glass running it next to Swaro


Which one does he have? The 3-24's MSRP is $2700; it better be darned good for that.


Pretty sure that’s it. But he paid a lot less, as in more then half of that. I don’t remember where he bought it though.

No reason to pay retail for optics. To many drop shippers out there that will sell just a touch over cost. You just have to put in the work making calls because they won’t advertise due you MAP protections


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Originally Posted by QuitShootinYoungBucks
Which one does he have? The 3-24's MSRP is $2700; it better be darned good for that.


Cheap chit ain't cool.
Cool chit ain't cheap.

Especially for optics.


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Thank you all for the ideas and insight. Lots of good ideas and points and I am looking at all of these options.

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Which one does he have? The 3-24's MSRP is $2700; it better be darned good for that.


Cheap chit ain't cool.
Cool chit ain't cheap.

Especially for optics.


I understand, for sure. I'm just saying for that kind of suggested $, from a known company, I would expect it to be pretty good, even against Swaro, etc.


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Originally Posted by QuitShootinYoungBucks
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Which one does he have? The 3-24's MSRP is $2700; it better be darned good for that.


Cheap chit ain't cool.
Cool chit ain't cheap.

Especially for optics.


I understand, for sure. I'm just saying for that kind of suggested $, from a known company, I would expect it to be pretty good, even against Swaro, etc.


Swaro has good glass in their rifle scopes. They pretty much suck at turrets and reticles.


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On a budget, the Athlon Ares BTR Gen 2 is a solid option at ~27oz. Stepping up a bit you could try the Leupold Mark 5HD 3.6-18x44 at 26oz. Stepping up a lot you could look at the Tangent Theta long range hunter at ~27oz.

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