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Repairing Bad Roads / Mud holes
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02/01/21 12:54 AM
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If you have a road that is the only way in to a place and it basically stays wet due to naturally being low and it’s rutted up by trucks is there a way to repair it or add something to it to make it passable
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Re: Repairing Bad Roads / Mud holes
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02/01/21 01:00 AM
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Dave Davidson
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Re: Repairing Bad Roads / Mud holes
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02/01/21 01:03 AM
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Theringworm
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Reclaimed asphalt, bags of concrete, loads of gravel (but that’s gonna be expensive) are all options I have seen..
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Re: Repairing Bad Roads / Mud holes
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02/01/21 01:08 AM
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Crushed concrete works really well.
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Re: Repairing Bad Roads / Mud holes
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02/01/21 01:19 AM
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cos
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If you can get a dozer with a 6way blade or a road grader to put a crown on it and cut wing ditches to get the water off the road and then stay off of it when it rains the first time till its gets dry you may not need anything added. I work them all the time. Like someone said crushed concrete works great if you have to bring in material. On my own personal ranch i pick up bermuda or bahai grass sod with a front end loader and drop in the worst spots.
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Re: Repairing Bad Roads / Mud holes
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02/01/21 01:20 AM
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Is this the entry off a county or state road?
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Re: Repairing Bad Roads / Mud holes
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02/01/21 01:27 AM
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bring in caliche and run a maintainer over it
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Re: Repairing Bad Roads / Mud holes
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02/01/21 01:49 AM
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Whammer7
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Go with fist sized stone or crushed concrete. It won't wash out of get blasted into the ditch by road traffic.
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Re: Repairing Bad Roads / Mud holes
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02/01/21 02:12 AM
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Caliche. I'm guessing it is not a county maintained road? Whatever you go with will probably be expensive. My sister tried to make a driveway out of old shingles. That was a disaster.
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Re: Repairing Bad Roads / Mud holes
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02/01/21 01:56 PM
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If you have a road that is the only way in to a place and it basically stays wet due to naturally being low and it’s rutted up by trucks is there a way to repair it or add something to it to make it passable
Cities, Counties and the State all do the exact same thing when building roads. They create drainage on either side of the road, and then they build it up with dirt, and compact it. In every area of the state, there will be the ideal dirt that they use for building up roads. It's also the same dirt that is used to build house pads and everything else that's built in that area. Most commonly, it's called Clean Fill. Dirt is by far cheaper then any other material, and once it's built up higher then the drainage, it will remain solid if compacted when it's spread out. To top it off, crushed concrete is by far the best material that I've seen. It compacts very easily, and it's so hard that it doesn't break down like caliche, or limestone. With most road base rock, you want it at least 4 inches thick so it will lock together when compacted. If you get your soil compacted good and solid, you can get away with less crushed concrete. It's that good!!! If the area is swampy, and it never dries out, road material fabric will help. You just roll it out first, then build up the dirt on top of it. The fabric will provide a layer of support to keep the soil from sinking into the wet area. To compact the dirt, the best machine is a sheepsfoot vibratory roller. It's expensive to rent them, so I use my tractor with a full load of dirt in the bucket and I go over the dirt that I just spread with my tires. Then I dump and spread that load, and go over it when I come back with another load of dirt in my loader. My goal is to put as much weight as I can on the dirt, and the front tires of my tractor with a yard of dirt in the loader concentrates the most weight that I can have. I just go over it until it's all compacted, and every inch has my tire tracks on it.
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Re: Repairing Bad Roads / Mud holes
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02/01/21 02:16 PM
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I put branches of cedar down and lay in some sandstone rocks. Seems to gather sand and fills in the rut.
FJB
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Re: Repairing Bad Roads / Mud holes
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02/02/21 04:05 AM
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If you have a road that is the only way in to a place and it basically stays wet due to naturally being low and it’s rutted up by trucks is there a way to repair it or add something to it to make it passable
I considered myself an expert at fixing roads like this My old place had a road , the only road, that crosses a creek Lowest spot , where all water from surround hills, canyons n higher grounds drained into After several attempts of using rocks , gravels etc I ran into old oil field grates , 6x12 , 700-1000lbs each I laid these next to each other in the creek Over time , sediments would get trapped , filled in, built up Grates provide solid base to drive on, smoother than rocks When the creek is 2-3ft high Can still drive over due to solid , non skid grate surface It was an engineering marvel of the lowest cost Go find you these grates ... works or your money back
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Re: Repairing Bad Roads / Mud holes
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02/02/21 12:59 PM
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We have a bad mud hole at our place in East Texas. You can kinda go around it on a 4wheeler or small hunting biggie but not in a truck. We need about 4-5 tons of fist size blue rock and dozer to fix it. Timber company that owns the place could care less.
Thanks, Billy
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Re: Repairing Bad Roads / Mud holes
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02/02/21 01:52 PM
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If you have a road that is the only way in to a place and it basically stays wet due to naturally being low and it’s rutted up by trucks is there a way to repair it or add something to it to make it passable
Cities, Counties and the State all do the exact same thing when building roads. They create drainage on either side of the road, and then they build it up with dirt, and compact it. In every area of the state, there will be the ideal dirt that they use for building up roads. It's also the same dirt that is used to build house pads and everything else that's built in that area. Most commonly, it's called Clean Fill. Dirt is by far cheaper then any other material, and once it's built up higher then the drainage, it will remain solid if compacted when it's spread out. To top it off, crushed concrete is by far the best material that I've seen. It compacts very easily, and it's so hard that it doesn't break down like caliche, or limestone. With most road base rock, you want it at least 4 inches thick so it will lock together when compacted. If you get your soil compacted good and solid, you can get away with less crushed concrete. It's that good!!! If the area is swampy, and it never dries out, road material fabric will help. You just roll it out first, then build up the dirt on top of it. The fabric will provide a layer of support to keep the soil from sinking into the wet area. To compact the dirt, the best machine is a sheepsfoot vibratory roller. It's expensive to rent them, so I use my tractor with a full load of dirt in the bucket and I go over the dirt that I just spread with my tires. Then I dump and spread that load, and go over it when I come back with another load of dirt in my loader. My goal is to put as much weight as I can on the dirt, and the front tires of my tractor with a yard of dirt in the loader concentrates the most weight that I can have. I just go over it until it's all compacted, and every inch has my tire tracks on it. This man knows what he is talking about. I have a lot of heavy equipment and have built a few roads and this is how you do it. Proper drainage is the key. Rock, gravel, whatever certainly helps but unless you fix the underlying problem with the drainage you are just putting a bandaid on. OP what exactly are you talking about with your road? A couple of bad spots or miles of road that is bad? Fixing a road right isn’t cheap. I recently built 800’ of new road at my place. I have my own 6 way dozer and grader and just materials (crushed concrete) cost me $3,000.
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Re: Repairing Bad Roads / Mud holes
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02/02/21 05:21 PM
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You need a good caliche pit and some equipment. Some places you can't fix the underlying problem. You just have to keep putting rock and caliche on top of it . One place I put 100 loads with my dump truck. I haul 3 yards at a time before I finally got where I can drive over this about 100 ft. place all the time. And this caliche here does not break down. After you dig it up and it gets a good rain on it it gets hard as rock.
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Re: Repairing Bad Roads / Mud holes
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02/02/21 05:51 PM
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^^^^^Yep. Looks like our caliche pit, Don.
Life is too short, as is. Don't chance it. Don't text and drive.
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Re: Repairing Bad Roads / Mud holes
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02/02/21 08:55 PM
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I've got one area with underground springs that will never dry out. The pond can be 90% gone but this spot will still be muddy. Bags of concrete have seemed to be the most durable.
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Re: Repairing Bad Roads / Mud holes
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02/02/21 11:10 PM
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You need a good caliche pit and some equipment. Some places you can't fix the underlying problem. You just have to keep putting rock and caliche on top of it . One place I put 100 loads with my dump truck. I haul 3 yards at a time before I finally got where I can drive over this about 100 ft. place all the time. And this caliche here does not break down. After you dig it up and it gets a good rain on it it gets hard as rock. Looks like fun
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Re: Repairing Bad Roads / Mud holes
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02/03/21 08:08 PM
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I personally don’t have a hunting place currently
I was just in talks with someone and we were sharing stories of crappy spots. Most were 40-200’ long
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Re: Repairing Bad Roads / Mud holes
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02/08/21 11:10 PM
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Back in the day my granddad used broken clay tiles for road base. They were pretty cheap at the factory, $5 a dump truck load. He used to run over the tiles with the end loader to break them up, get more in the truck that way.
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Re: Repairing Bad Roads / Mud holes
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02/09/21 04:02 AM
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Oversized road base. Have probably put 150 yards at low places all over my ranch, works great.
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