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Re: Shooting at Reelfoot [Re: js4242] #8148000 01/29/21 02:57 PM
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Thats the same story as the original.

I do agree, something seems a little off about it. Why didnt the 3rd guy use his weapon to protect hisself? Lots of "why's" and only 1 person walked out of the place.

Either way, its a sad deal for the young men involved. You never go out to a duck blind expecting something like that.


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Maybe the 3rd guys instincts are not to shoot another human. Apparently he weaponized his gun on the shooter's noggin and knocked him out of the boat. Then his intention was to save his friends life. Tragic story, we may never know what really happened.

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The most unbelievable statement the survivor made was that he was allowing the guy to hunt with them. Don't think that ever happens. Some reports I've seen said the survivor was a guide, some don't mention it, so not sure what is true, but find it highly unbelievable that they were allowing a guy in the blind them unless they were all already friends, which doesn't seem to be the case.

I hunted some public land about 25 years ago in Arkansas for a couple of seasons when I was in college. Even back then, it wasn't a friendly environment in the least. Have duck hunted some public land here in Central Texas since but don't think I've ever seen another duck hunter on the water so can't compare the environment here, but duck hunting was a blood sport for those boys in Arkansas, and it didn't have to be duck blood. We stayed out of the fights, but we sure as hell saw some. Some yelling, some driving through decoys, some setting up on top of people, lots of swing shooting and sky blasting, and even a fist fight or two. Sounds like Reelfoot is about the same way.


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Originally Posted by Gumbeaux
The most unbelievable statement the survivor made was that he was allowing the guy to hunt with them. Don't think that ever happens. Some reports I've seen said the survivor was a guide, some don't mention it, so not sure what is true, but find it highly unbelievable that they were allowing a guy in the blind them unless they were all already friends, which doesn't seem to be the case.

I hunted some public land about 25 years ago in Arkansas for a couple of seasons when I was in college. Even back then, it wasn't a friendly environment in the least. Have duck hunted some public land here in Central Texas since but don't think I've ever seen another duck hunter on the water so can't compare the environment here, but duck hunting was a blood sport for those boys in Arkansas, and it didn't have to be duck blood. We stayed out of the fights, but we sure as hell saw some. Some yelling, some driving through decoys, some setting up on top of people, lots of swing shooting and sky blasting, and even a fist fight or two. Sounds like Reelfoot is about the same way.


Have to say that i have not had but a couple negative encounters duck hunting. I've had more instances when hunting alone, that i was invited to hunt with others.
Once, on a very public hunting area, I arrived at one of the more remote launches at the same time a party of three arrived. After some introductions and shared coffee, we agreed that there was one "on the X location" that we both were wanting to hunt. We agreed that the best strategy was to hunt together.
A great hunt with new friends.
The way it should be.
Unfortunate that you have had such bad experiences.

Re: Shooting at Reelfoot [Re: 4Weight] #8148591 01/29/21 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 4Weight
Maybe the 3rd guys instincts are not to shoot another human.


Guy shows up and shoots two guys in your blind, and you are the only one left.

Not a whole lot of choice, as far as I'm concerned.

Of course I wasn't there.

Re: Shooting at Reelfoot [Re: 68A] #8148602 01/30/21 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by 68A
Sad deal. Over some birds. Completely unnecessary and avoidable. I’d much rather make some new acquaintances than end up arguing, in a fight or get shot.

Originally Posted by js4242
There are a lot of ideas/theories/what ifs about this deal. Super sad and ridiculous is confirmed from my point of view. I guess some guys on the refuge forum know this lake well and hunted out of the blind in question and even know the shooter. 70 year old shooter. Kind of shocked at that.


Not surprising to me. The worst confrontation I had was with a man in his late 60’s or early 70’s. I was setup and he came along about 30 min later. He immediately went into a tirade about me being in his spot. I invited him and his grandson to hunt with me. He started cussing me. After some debate, I conceded the spot because his 10 yr old grandson had to stand there and watch his grandfather act like a child that didn’t get his way. I looked his grandson in the eye, apologized to him on behalf of the way his grandfather was acting and explained to him that’s not the way a real sportsman behaves. The old man didn’t have another word to say.

good for you, always best to take the high road


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Reports show Vowell was found dead in the lake.


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Re: Shooting at Reelfoot [Re: js4242] #8149731 01/31/21 02:50 AM
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And apparently all the Facebook detectives think the witness killed all 3 of them. Smh this story is wild.


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Re: Shooting at Reelfoot [Re: js4242] #8149820 01/31/21 04:12 AM
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The old man is going to tell his story without talking. This may or may not get interesting. Still ridiculous however it turns out

Re: Shooting at Reelfoot [Re: Sniper John] #8150339 01/31/21 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Sniper John
Not official. Mentioned on the Refuge Tennessee forum.

Last word on shooting - David Vowell went to the duck blind where the 2 young men and guide were hunting. David opened fire. Crabtree, the guide, hit David in the back of the head with his gun. Crabtree then took the two young men to shore. One died instantly from a shot to the face. The other young man lived until they were on land but passed away while waiting on ambulance. So, I M pretty certain David Vowell probably fell into the lake and his waders filled . They are now searching the lake.

https://www.refugeforums.com/threads/bad-news-at-reelfoot.1070019/


Posts on the Refuge Forums thread claim shooter had early onset dementia. If true, that explains a lot.

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I’m gonna call out a sorry MOFO because my buddy and I almost got into a shootout with him over a stupid blind on Public Water. POS named “Santos” in Arroyo City that hunts Rattlesnake Cove. Shortly after my friend and I started hunting on a duck blind in Public Water, this retard came over very irate and drunk screaming that it was his blind. Me being pretty mellow and rational, I said “no problem, we’ll move out and go to another empty blind”. Then he started cursing and had his hand on his shotgun. My friend with his finger on the trigger, I had to intervene. He said there were two game wardens across the cove, I said “good go get them”.

When the Federal Conservation Officers came, they said “take our Blind, it fits 20 hunters, by our boat”. I said thank you and can you please educate this idiot on proper sportsmanship.

That’s the first time since Iraq that I shouldered my firearm in fear for my life.

Stuff like this and roadrage are real.

Nevermind the “How to diffuse and de-escalate” course I took in the Army, some jackasses are just itching for a fight.


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Re: Shooting at Reelfoot [Re: js4242] #8151458 02/01/21 07:48 PM
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Heard they found the old mans body.


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Heard they found the old mans body.


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Re: Shooting at Reelfoot [Re: js4242] #8252353 04/29/21 10:18 PM
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Really strange. Sounds like David Vowell's brain just got some wires crossed and did not know what he was doing, some kinda mental illness.

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Really strange. Sounds like David Vowell's brain just got some wires crossed and did not know what he was doing, some kinda mental illness.

Would be my guess too. Sad story


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Sad sad story. I believe Mr. Crabtree. Something happened that morning and we will never know why it happened the way it did.

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A normal thinking rational person cannot grasp why things like this happen, or why those that do things like this do them.

I doubt even the guy who murdered the hunters even knew himself.

We just cannot wrap a reason around it.

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Absolutely terrible

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That’s a really weird story, it just seems off but we will never know the truth other than some guys died. It’s sad to see this happen but cross wired minds never have a rational thought.

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so sad, you just never know, I worry about my wife and daughters and grand children and great grandchildren every day, one of my g g d's is being bullied at school because she has a lazy eye, guess it's a good thing I can't travel, if you know what I mean


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Originally Posted by Ol Thumper
we will never know the truth

I think Crabtree is telling the truth. I have no reason to doubt him. What we don't know is why David V shot people, seems like Crabtree does not even know. I would like to hear more interview from Crabtree.

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Delusions, aggression, and loss of control are not unheard of during the middle stages of dementia/alzheimers. The shooter having had prior disagreements with the other blind, having depression issues in the last year and if he did have dementia setting it. It may have just been the perfect storm moment losing control of his own mind that morning. 34 years in the fire service, I have encountered many horrible "why on earth would someone do that" tragedies. Nothing surprises me.

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we will never know the truth

I think Crabtree is telling the truth. I have no reason to doubt him. What we don't know is why David V shot people, seems like Crabtree does not even know. I would like to hear more interview from Crabtree.

That’s where I’m at, no reason not to believe the guy. Nightmare of a day.

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