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 Removed from Facebook?
#8143973
01/26/21 03:14 PM
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syncerus
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Without wanting to get political, can we get a list going of sites that were removed from Facebook ostensibly for political reasons? I'd like to see if we can see some form of pattern emerging. I recently received an email from 1776United.com, a purveyor of patriotic apparel, indicating they'd been removed, according to them, without cause.
It's James, the Founder of 1776 United.
As you may have heard in the news, social networks such as Facebook have been banning people and companies left and right. That has now happened to us for no apparent reason. To say its frustrating would be an understatement.
With that said, we want to make sure you continue getting important updates from us and I'd love it if you'd sign up for our text message updates. We don't send a ton of them, but they are quick ways for you to stay in the know.
If you'd like to sign up, please click this link to do so: XXXXXX
It's mildly embarrassing to say we've been kicked off a platform, but on the other hand, we didn't do anything wrong. I do though hope that you'll sign up for SMS updates though because we find that emails are so easy to miss.
James
Founder
1776 United
Last edited by syncerus; 01/26/21 03:15 PM. Reason: removed marketing link
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Re: Removed from Facebook?
[Re: syncerus]
#8143977
01/26/21 03:18 PM
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Dave Davidson
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I can get along real well without Facebook
Without a sense of urgency, nothing ever happens.
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Re: Removed from Facebook?
[Re: Dave Davidson]
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01/26/21 03:31 PM
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TCM3
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I can get along real well without Facebook Yep. People survived thousands of years without it.
Do not forget to entertain strangers, For by so doing some have unwittingly entertained angels
Hebrews 13:2
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Re: Removed from Facebook?
[Re: syncerus]
#8144003
01/26/21 03:36 PM
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NORML as can be
^^Cut the Cord^^
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I was on it once to check out what old girlfriends looked like today.
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Re: Removed from Facebook?
[Re: syncerus]
#8144004
01/26/21 03:36 PM
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Wytex
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Seems to me if it's privately owned why can't they control who uses it, kind of like "we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone".
Don't like it, start your own service.
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Re: Removed from Facebook?
[Re: Wytex]
#8144088
01/26/21 04:39 PM
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ducknbass
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Seems to me if it's privately owned why can't they control who uses it, kind of like "we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone".
Don't like it, start your own service. There is an argument against that. If you provide the public a platform you have to leave it open to the public To your second comment. Parlor did that. They were yanked off line for being conservative. Anyone who is not in awe at the level of censorship happening right now to opposing thought is one of two things. Not paying attention A communist
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Re: Removed from Facebook?
[Re: syncerus]
#8144105
01/26/21 04:52 PM
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bill oxner
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Re: Removed from Facebook?
[Re: ducknbass]
#8144121
01/26/21 05:02 PM
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fishfree
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Seems to me if it's privately owned why can't they control who uses it, kind of like "we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone".
Don't like it, start your own service. There is an argument against that. If you provide the public a platform you have to leave it open to the public To your second comment. Parlor did that. They were yanked off line for being conservative. Anyone who is not in awe at the level of censorship happening right now to opposing thought is one of two things. Not paying attention A communist FB claims special legal privileges protecting them from lawsuits by claiming to be a public platform rather than a publisher with editors and control over content. time to take away that special privilege retroactively
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Re: Removed from Facebook?
[Re: Wytex]
#8144153
01/26/21 05:36 PM
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Longhunter
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Seems to me if it's privately owned why can't they control who uses it, kind of like "we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone".
Don't like it, start your own service. It's not privately owned...
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Re: Removed from Facebook?
[Re: Longhunter]
#8144156
01/26/21 05:40 PM
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BOBO the Clown
kind of a big deal
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Seems to me if it's privately owned why can't they control who uses it, kind of like "we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone".
Don't like it, start your own service. It's not privately owned... In this aspect they are private entity, publicly held.
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Re: Removed from Facebook?
[Re: fishfree]
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01/26/21 06:50 PM
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syncerus
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FB claims special legal privileges protecting them from lawsuits by claiming to be a public platform rather than a publisher with editors and control over content.
This is the core issue. They claim an exemption from any legal liability due to content by virtue of the Section 230 provisions. This exemption is based on the notion that they are simply content facilitators and only move content provided by their uses from point A to point B. Now that they've chosen to pick and choose, advance and suppress content they've transitioned from an impartial platform company, like the telephone company, to an editorial company, and should be subject to the laws of all editorial companies such as the New York Times, CNN, Fox News, MSNBC and Newsmax. Of course, revoking their Section 230 status will have a profound effect on their revenue, so they're fighting the redesignation aggressively.
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Re: Removed from Facebook?
[Re: syncerus]
#8144226
01/26/21 06:51 PM
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Wytex
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I am not for censorship by any means and certainly no communist so whatever ducknbass.
Just thinking of private ownership rights . I get the public domain argument but seems the platform should be able to say ban all political posts if they wanted to. That "censorship" would be by the platform, not the gov't and then folks could choose not to use it and go elsewhere to post.
Kind of like certain language on here.
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Re: Removed from Facebook?
[Re: syncerus]
#8144243
01/26/21 07:05 PM
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Paluxy
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Check your settings on FB and stop them from using your info. Check the other settings for Ads and Privacy too. https://www.ksat.com/news/local/202...ffline-but-theres-an-easy-way-to-fix-it/How to turn off “Off-Facebook Activity” From your phone, go into ‘Settings and Privacy.” Then, select “Settings.” From there, scroll down until you see “Your Facebook Information” and select “Off-Facebook Activity.” If you want to turn off the setting, tap “More Options” and “Manage Future Activity.” You’ll then be prompted to select “Manage Future Activity” again, and from there, tap the switch to off, next to “Future Off-Facebook Activity.” Then you’re all set! If you want to clear the history that’s already been stored, just return to the “Off-Facebook Activity” screen and select “Clear History.”
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Re: Removed from Facebook?
[Re: Wytex]
#8144263
01/26/21 07:24 PM
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ducknbass
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I am not for censorship by any means and certainly no communist so whatever ducknbass.
Just thinking of private ownership rights . I get the public domain argument but seems the platform should be able to say ban all political posts if they wanted to. That "censorship" would be by the platform, not the gov't and then folks could choose not to use it and go elsewhere to post.
Kind of like certain language on here.
I never called you a communist. So you're simply not paying attention. They aren't banning all political speech. They are banning speech they disagree with. Take for instance the hunter biden story pre election. They blocked it. News outlets from ny times to fox news blocked. Claimed it was false. Post election. The story ran like usain bolt. The free market you can pick and choose argument is invalid. You cannot discriminate against thought. Period. This is equal to Jim crow laws against conservatives.
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Re: Removed from Facebook?
[Re: syncerus]
#8144278
01/26/21 07:32 PM
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redchevy
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Real easy for me, just never join. Never have or will have a FB acct.
It's hell eatin em live
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Re: Removed from Facebook?
[Re: bill oxner]
#8144296
01/26/21 07:51 PM
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jetdad
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Re: Removed from Facebook?
[Re: ducknbass]
#8144302
01/26/21 07:58 PM
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SherpaPhil
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The free market you can pick and choose argument is invalid. You cannot discriminate against thought. Period.
This is equal to Jim crow laws against conservatives.
It is nothing like that. The government is not censoring anybody. Facebook is completely within their rights to set the rules for use of their platform and refuse service to anyone who does not follow them. Those rules can be whatever they want, as they are a private enterprise. Despite current events, this is still America and we give businesses freedom to do as they please. Private companies can discriminate against any thought they want. Take this forum for instance, we can't post porn, profanity, free advertising, personal attacks and many other things. If we don't follow those rules, we will be banned. There is nothing wrong with that, and I am glad the government isn't trying to dictate how this forum should run. Facebook is no different.
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Re: Removed from Facebook?
[Re: syncerus]
#8144304
01/26/21 08:00 PM
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TLew
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Re: Removed from Facebook?
[Re: SherpaPhil]
#8144309
01/26/21 08:08 PM
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BOBO the Clown
kind of a big deal
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The free market you can pick and choose argument is invalid. You cannot discriminate against thought. Period.
This is equal to Jim crow laws against conservatives.
It is nothing like that. The government is not censoring anybody. Facebook is completely within their rights to set the rules for use of their platform and refuse service to anyone who does not follow them. Those rules can be whatever they want, as they are a private enterprise. Despite current events, this is still America and we give businesses freedom to do as they please. Private companies can discriminate against any thought they want. Take this forum for instance, we can't post porn, profanity, free advertising, personal attacks and many other things. If we don't follow those rules, we will be banned. There is nothing wrong with that, and I am glad the government isn't trying to dictate how this forum should run. Facebook is no different. There will be anti-discrimination and Sherman cases had before a court before to long. I think Sherman cases stick. The discrimination will most likely not.
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Re: Removed from Facebook?
[Re: syncerus]
#8144314
01/26/21 08:10 PM
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Roll-Tide
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To me the issue is with the responsibility of these large modern day platforms for free speech. They demand section 230 immunity but do not take any responsibility. They hide behind government exemptions and claim they are a private company.
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Re: Removed from Facebook?
[Re: BOBO the Clown]
#8144323
01/26/21 08:21 PM
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SherpaPhil
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The free market you can pick and choose argument is invalid. You cannot discriminate against thought. Period.
This is equal to Jim crow laws against conservatives.
It is nothing like that. The government is not censoring anybody. Facebook is completely within their rights to set the rules for use of their platform and refuse service to anyone who does not follow them. Those rules can be whatever they want, as they are a private enterprise. Despite current events, this is still America and we give businesses freedom to do as they please. Private companies can discriminate against any thought they want. Take this forum for instance, we can't post porn, profanity, free advertising, personal attacks and many other things. If we don't follow those rules, we will be banned. There is nothing wrong with that, and I am glad the government isn't trying to dictate how this forum should run. Facebook is no different. There will be anti-discrimination and Sherman cases had before a court before to long. I think Sherman cases stick. The discrimination will most likely not. I'd say you're probably right.
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Re: Removed from Facebook?
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#8144351
01/26/21 08:45 PM
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SnakeWrangler
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The real issue is that they are “protected” from lawsuits “being” a platform, but in fact, are operating and behaving as a publisher..... That’s the beginning, middle, and end of the issue.... 
I believe in science and I’m an insufferable [censored] Actually, BBC is pretty damn good "You Cannot Simultaneously Be Politically Correct And Intellectually Honest!"
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Re: Removed from Facebook?
[Re: SherpaPhil]
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01/26/21 08:45 PM
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QuitShootinYoungBucks
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The free market you can pick and choose argument is invalid. You cannot discriminate against thought. Period.
This is equal to Jim crow laws against conservatives.
It is nothing like that. The government is not censoring anybody. Facebook is completely within their rights to set the rules for use of their platform and refuse service to anyone who does not follow them. Those rules can be whatever they want, as they are a private enterprise. Despite current events, this is still America and we give businesses freedom to do as they please. Private companies can discriminate against any thought they want. Take this forum for instance, we can't post porn, profanity, free advertising, personal attacks and many other things. If we don't follow those rules, we will be banned. There is nothing wrong with that, and I am glad the government isn't trying to dictate how this forum should run. Facebook is no different. Part of the issue is that they are not applying their terms of service equally to all parties. If THF allows me to post porn, but not you, then you have a valid grievance.
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Re: Removed from Facebook?
[Re: ducknbass]
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01/26/21 08:47 PM
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Texas452
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Seems to me if it's privately owned why can't they control who uses it, kind of like "we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone".
Don't like it, start your own service. There is an argument against that. If you provide the public a platform you have to leave it open to the public To your second comment. Parlor did that. They were yanked off line for being conservative. Anyone who is not in awe at the level of censorship happening right now to opposing thought is one of two things. Not paying attention A communist That’s right But I’ve never been on it and I don’t miss it a bit
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