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We knew it was coming #8133992 01/18/21 08:30 PM
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This was from Winchester today announcing their price increase. We knew it was coming and I think it will happen again if people continue to buy/hoard ammo and components like they are

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I hardly think buying what you think you will need or stocking up has caused Winchester to raise their prices. In fact your misguided attempt to blame us instead of the new leftard rulers seems pretty low.

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You don’t think it’s because people giving outrageous prices caused them to raise prices? I think they will keep raising the prices until they find the point that price affects sales.


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I like brass and lead with a little powder in between
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I think when the smoke settles their are going to be a lot of hurt feelings. It’s not just ammo, try and buy the simplest of items used in reloading like a shell holder or priming tool. The country is in full blown insane mode and I’m betting everything goes up in prices and never comes back down. If you need ammo, powder, primers or bullets your your in trouble.

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Re: We knew it was coming [Re: rickt300] #8134355 01/19/21 12:55 AM
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In fact your misguided attempt to blame us instead of the new leftard rulers seems pretty low.


So how much ammo have the leftard rulers purchased?


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The price of components and shipping is going up on the ammo manufacturers just as it is going up on reloaders. If they don't make a profit then their doors will be shuttered and no more ammo. It's not so much about hoarding as it is more new gun owners who need ammo for their new guns. Notice the price of fuel since the thief elect stole office.


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Originally Posted by Deans
The price of components and shipping is going up on the ammo manufacturers just as it is going up on reloaders. If they don't make a profit then their doors will be shuttered and no more ammo. It's not so much about hoarding as it is more new gun owners who need ammo for their new guns. Notice the price of fuel since the thief elect stole office.


Oil has jumped from 37 in Nov to 52 as of today.


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Re: We knew it was coming [Re: machinist] #8134804 01/19/21 01:10 PM
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Not all cost for a manufacturer lays with just the components. All companies have seen significant increased cost in sanitizing their facility, additional labor cost running 24/7 to keep up with demand and countless other Covid cost. Does that justify 7%-15% increases in pricing....depends on the last time they took pricing.

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We just received a 3-4% price increase from the majority of our suppliers. Not connected to the shooting/hunting world at all. Everything is going up.

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Originally Posted by Adchunts
We just received a 3-4% price increase from the majority of our suppliers. Not connected to the shooting/hunting world at all. Value of dollar is going down quickly as we print trillions more


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Originally Posted by Deans
It's not so much about hoarding as it is more new gun owners who need ammo for their new guns.


Really disagree on that. Most of those people bought a handgun and a couple of boxes of ammo just to feel safer in their home, they're done.

The shortage is almost completely driven by a mad scramble to stock/hoard everything in sight. I know several reloaders that started buying primers last year and easily have 10,000 primers for 2-3 calibers. Going forward, if they shot as much as they shoot now, they'll die before they run out. And that's just a few people. I tangentially know at least 20-30 reloaders through this board, you don't think they haven't stocked up?


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Nothing wrong with planning (hoarding as some call it). I would rather have it and not need it versus need it and not have it.


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Yep, all the suppliers have been increasing since last year. They have to meet demand. The good thing is they are closer to what some used market guys are so that's fine. Some in the used larket are selling ammo to make money. That's the interesting part, in a Hobby that all should work together in.

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Finally got notified by website today that Hornady 95gr SST (243 win) was available. Just before I hit purchase, saw a price of $60 per box.....too much for me. Will switch to Stick and String before paying that price.


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Come on fellas. The Fed printed 30% of the entire currency supply in the last 12 months. Biden just approved another $1.9 trillion. Inflation is coming everywhere. Been to the grocery store lately? Dollars value will continue to decline as they print more. This will be the good old days soon.



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Originally Posted by HWY_MAN
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In fact your misguided attempt to blame us instead of the new leftard rulers seems pretty low.


So how much ammo have the leftard rulers purchased?


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Originally Posted by HWY_MAN
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In fact your misguided attempt to blame us instead of the new leftard rulers seems pretty low.


So how much ammo have the leftard rulers purchased?


So you don't believe they are the reason people are stocking up? And have no clue what those people think we are in store for? Have you even looked at Biden's executive orders or his gun control wish list? Have you heard him call have the country domestic terrorists/white supremacists? You do know that Harris's vote gives the leftard scum a majority in the senate right? Do not take this lightly.

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Originally Posted by Plinkin'
Yep, all the suppliers have been increasing since last year. They have to meet demand. The good thing is they are closer to what some used market guys are so that's fine. Some in the used larket are selling ammo to make money. That's the interesting part, in a Hobby that all should work together in.


I went to Academy today and the only ammo they had was 28 gauge and 2 boxes of 30 carbine. I asked when they will have anything in stock. The clerk says be there at 5am on Monday or Thursday and get in line. Opens at 9 and all ammo will be sold by 10. Resellers are buying it to sell online and at gunshows at huge markups. We have all seen it already. And yes the dollar is going to tank.

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Y'all should've seen the line at Scheel's yesterday morning before it opened. Wrapped back around towards the customer service pick up. Once the doors opened, everyone piled in pretty quickly and I understood why. They had more ammo than I've seen in a while: .22, .223, 9mm, 40, .45, .380, .243 and several other calibers. You were limited to 2 boxes of each caliber but could buy as many different calibers as you wanted.

I'll say kudos to everyone that was filling up baskets.....no pushing, shoving and everyone was very respectful.

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all the corporations in America love to do one thing and thats make as much profit as they can off of their stuff and the best way to do that is manufacture crisis and create shortages so they can gouge the public , why do you think they all lobby the corrupt washington law school reject crack monkeys ,also just to show how gullible alot of us are they even did it with toilet paper and do you think these ammo manufacturers are any less greedy . corporate america as a whole is just like the government and all for socialism and communism because they want total control on how much they pay employees and profits and that they are powerful enough to monopolize and run any start up companies coming into the free market out of business or buy them out . everyone in this country better get use to it because its only gonna get worse, because next you will be trading your bullets for food ,especially if you live in the cities and have no land to hunt on even if you do have hunting and land access the government will make sure they regulate your government approved hunting privileges to the elite few that can afford it ,,, welcome to all the suppressed peasants to the new United Socialist States of America . sooner or later if we dont unify and start using what bullets we left on the government they will gladly use their unlimited supply on us , and im just stating a fact not promoting a cough ,cough rebellion ,,for all of you politically correct lame [censored] fact checkers

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Corporate types don't need to fabricate an ammo shortage.
We do it to ourselves. That, and all the new gun owners in the past year…


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In fact your misguided attempt to blame us instead of the new leftard rulers seems pretty low.


So how much ammo have the leftard rulers purchased?


So you don't believe they are the reason people are stocking up? And have no clue what those people think we are in store for? Have you even looked at Biden's executive orders or his gun control wish list? Have you heard him call have the country domestic terrorists/white supremacists? You do know that Harris's vote gives the leftard scum a majority in the senate right? Do not take this lightly.




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It's funny that all the guy's crying about the prices and shortages are the same guy's that didn't take time to stock up when everything was stacked deep on the shelves and easy to get.
I learned decades back to buy / stock up on stuff before I actually needed it.

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