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Re: Dogs on our hunting property [Re: Texas452] #8092090 12/16/20 08:10 PM
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It sounds like you’ve done about all a reasonable dog owner could ask for honestly so I’d follow our deputies advice and never bring it up again.

Re: Dogs on our hunting property [Re: BbarVRanch] #8092148 12/16/20 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by BbarVRanch
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What would some of y’all do if diplomacy doesn’t work


Neighbor's dogs were coming over the fence killing all sorts of stuff, many times. They were also chasing livestock, and I was afraid I'd find a dead calf... given the willingness for the dogs to kill wildlife. They killed 3 fawns, an armadillo, and bit a calf before momma got after them.

2 pit bulls.

I followed them directly to his house after catching them.

Had a talk with him, and explained the situation, and was just giving him a heads up that dogs that chase livestock and kill things on other people's land might not come home in ranch country.

He got mad at me. Beyond that, a few months later, I had my dogs at the end of the drive checking mail. My dogs were on the side of the road, not in it... And that guy swerved his pickup, trying to run over one of my dogs. mad

It's probably lucky for both of us he didn't.

He's moved since then.


Lesson learned: Do what you have to do, and keep it to yourself.


LOL, you threatened his dogs. It isn't a wonder he didn't take a liking to you or your dogs.


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Re: Dogs on our hunting property [Re: Double Naught Spy] #8092158 12/16/20 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Double Naught Spy


LOL, you threatened his dogs. It isn't a wonder he didn't take a liking to you or your dogs.

Sounds to me like he asked his neighbor to take care of his dogs or he would? Some folks dont belong in the country.... or the city.... or anywhere.


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Re: Dogs on our hunting property [Re: Double Naught Spy] #8092222 12/16/20 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Double Naught Spy
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Originally Posted by Texas452
What would some of y’all do if diplomacy doesn’t work


Neighbor's dogs were coming over the fence killing all sorts of stuff, many times. They were also chasing livestock, and I was afraid I'd find a dead calf... given the willingness for the dogs to kill wildlife. They killed 3 fawns, an armadillo, and bit a calf before momma got after them.

2 pit bulls.

I followed them directly to his house after catching them.

Had a talk with him, and explained the situation, and was just giving him a heads up that dogs that chase livestock and kill things on other people's land might not come home in ranch country.

He got mad at me. Beyond that, a few months later, I had my dogs at the end of the drive checking mail. My dogs were on the side of the road, not in it... And that guy swerved his pickup, trying to run over one of my dogs. mad

It's probably lucky for both of us he didn't.

He's moved since then.


Lesson learned: Do what you have to do, and keep it to yourself.


LOL, you threatened his dogs. It isn't a wonder he didn't take a liking to you or your dogs.


I did for a fact.

Should have just shot them and never involved him. I was completely within my rights to do so.

Would have worked out much better that way for all involved.

A man that lets his dogs run around other's property, killing and injuring stuff shouldn't get too attached to them.

What's frustrating is it's not the dog's fault. It's irresponsible owners.

Re: Dogs on our hunting property [Re: Double Naught Spy] #8092270 12/16/20 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Double Naught Spy
Originally Posted by BbarVRanch
Originally Posted by Texas452
What would some of y’all do if diplomacy doesn’t work


Neighbor's dogs were coming over the fence killing all sorts of stuff, many times. They were also chasing livestock, and I was afraid I'd find a dead calf... given the willingness for the dogs to kill wildlife. They killed 3 fawns, an armadillo, and bit a calf before momma got after them.

2 pit bulls.

I followed them directly to his house after catching them.

Had a talk with him, and explained the situation, and was just giving him a heads up that dogs that chase livestock and kill things on other people's land might not come home in ranch country.

He got mad at me. Beyond that, a few months later, I had my dogs at the end of the drive checking mail. My dogs were on the side of the road, not in it... And that guy swerved his pickup, trying to run over one of my dogs. mad

It's probably lucky for both of us he didn't.

He's moved since then.


Lesson learned: Do what you have to do, and keep it to yourself.


LOL, you threatened his dogs. It isn't a wonder he didn't take a liking to you or your dogs.


I agree, he should of just smoked them first time he caught them chasing Livestock, and not gave a warning.

Or maybe he should have of just waited until he had a $300 vet bill for having to stitch up a horse, that was run through a fence... Or worse. I waited like he did once. The out come was a lot worse for the dog owner in the end, hindsight I should of sent it first time I caught them



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Re: Dogs on our hunting property [Re: Texas452] #8092347 12/17/20 12:03 AM
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Stepped outside with my grandson, then in diapers, now grown. A neighbors dog was there and snarled at us. I got him inside and grabbed a gun. By then, the dog had left. I talked to the neighbor and told him bluntly to keep his dogs off my place.

A week later, the dogs were back. I grabbed a gun and shot the one that had threaten us. They are still pissed at me and I don’t give a damn.

A couple of years later I asked a sheriffs deputy about dogs running my cattle and horses. He told me that I first had to talk to the owner and then call the Sheriffs office about the problem but I had no right in Montague County to take things in my own hands.

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Re: Dogs on our hunting property [Re: Dave Davidson] #8092405 12/17/20 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave Davidson
Stepped outside with my grandson, then in diapers, now grown. A neighbors dog was there and snarled at us. I got him inside and grabbed a gun. By then, the dog had left. I talked to the neighbor and told him bluntly to keep his dogs off my place.

A week later, the dogs were back. I grabbed a gun and shot the one that had threaten us. They are still pissed at me and I don’t give a damn.

A couple of years later I asked a sheriffs deputy about dogs running my cattle and horses. He told me that I first had to talk to the owner and then call the Sheriffs office about the problem but I had no right in Montague County to take things in my own hands.



I give that deputy an "F"... in knowing the law and the rights of people he should be helping.

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Re: Dogs on our hunting property [Re: Dave Davidson] #8092437 12/17/20 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave Davidson
Stepped outside with my grandson, then in diapers, now grown. A neighbors dog was there and snarled at us. I got him inside and grabbed a gun. By then, the dog had left. I talked to the neighbor and told him bluntly to keep his dogs off my place.

A week later, the dogs were back. I grabbed a gun and shot the one that had threaten us. They are still pissed at me and I don’t give a damn.

A couple of years later I asked a sheriffs deputy about dogs running my cattle and horses. He told me that I first had to talk to the owner and then call the Sheriffs office about the problem but I had no right in Montague County to take things in my own hands.

That sheriff isn't real bright.


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Re: Dogs on our hunting property [Re: Jimbo] #8092448 12/17/20 01:54 AM
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Catch them and then call neighbor and tell him you have his dogs and to come get them!

Re: Dogs on our hunting property [Re: driftwood257] #8092455 12/17/20 01:56 AM
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I give up. Shoot, shut up and ...?

Re: Dogs on our hunting property [Re: Texas452] #8092474 12/17/20 02:01 AM
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Dad shot a doe in Northern Wisconsin that was being chased by a couple of dogs. He had to shoot one of the dogs when it acted aggressive. It was a large German Shepard or mix. It use to be a real problem up there. Dogs would not even eat the deer after taking them down.


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I give up. Shoot, shut up and ...?

Shoot, shovel, shut up.


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Re: Dogs on our hunting property [Re: glocker17] #8092547 12/17/20 02:45 AM
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If it continues you will have a choice to make and you know what it is. Dogs at the feeder and deer don't mix.


And get in deep chute. It is illegal to kill someone’s dog.

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Originally Posted by steve_twice
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Re: Dogs on our hunting property [Re: Texas452] #8092570 12/17/20 03:00 AM
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You know what to do...

1. Handle it
2. Never mention handling it

It’ll prob happen again eventually, repeat process

Re: Dogs on our hunting property [Re: Texas452] #8092614 12/17/20 03:32 AM
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I have no idea what you're talking about... confused2

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Re: Dogs on our hunting property [Re: Texas452] #8092670 12/17/20 04:23 AM
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Re: Dogs on our hunting property [Re: Texas452] #8092818 12/17/20 01:06 PM
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To the OP

You've done what you were supposed to do. I to am a HUGE dog lover and guess what, my dogs DON'T leave my place.

Do what you need to do now


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Re: Dogs on our hunting property [Re: huntwest] #8092842 12/17/20 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by huntwest
And get in deep chute. It is illegal to kill someone’s dog.


That’s not true at all & you know it

There’s numersous situations where it’s perfectly legal to shoot wild or stray dogs

Keep your dogs on your own property & there won’t be a problem

The minute those dogs leave your property & act aggressive towards people, livestock or wildlife the ROE change

I find it hilarious that some people think it’s illegal to shoot dogs under any circumstance


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And get in deep chute. It is illegal to kill someone’s dog.


That’s not true at all & you know it

There’s numersous situations where it’s perfectly legal to shoot wild or stray dogs

Keep your dogs on your own property & there won’t be a problem

The minute those dogs leave your property & act aggressive towards people, livestock or wildlife the ROE change

I find it hilarious that some people think it’s illegal to shoot dogs under any circumstance


I concur.......myself I would give one warning if the dog is not aggressive toward me or my family........I would not divulge what I'm going to do about it after it happens again....... rifle


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We have dog on our lease. We have 3000 acres in one section, 2300 in another couple miles apart. Have dongs on both. These dogs belong to a lady that has 30 acres next to us. She said she had 30 acres and was not going going to pen them up. I didn’t talk to her but lease Mgr did. I have them in camera running hogs, another guy has a pic of the running deer.

What surprised me was how much ground these dogs are covering, Couple of miles if not three from home.


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Years ago when I lived in Maine, if you were hunting and saw a 12 point buck and a dog you better shoot the dog or get a ticket if the game warden saw the event. Still sounds like a good plan to me.

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If I knew the owner and nothing was killed, they'll get one alert, just a 'Hey, saw your dog on our place near our stock-please see if you can keep him at home'. There will be no further communication.


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It is illegal to kill a dog (or even a cat) unless it is attacking livestock/people. Another defense is it was acting aggressive and you felt threatened. That may seem unrealistic in the case of stray cats but according to a friend who's wife works for the pound, it's at least as common for feral cats to attack as it is for feral dogs. You might also let the neighbor know that you've taken up coyote trapping and that you wanted to be sure he knows so that he can keep his dog from getting trapped. Good luck.

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