texashuntingforum.com logo
Main Menu
Advertisement
Affiliates
Advertisement
Newest Members
bthomas11, Whiskey Zulu, Roberterop, MarioS9292, copano_son
68224 Registered Users
Top Posters(All Time)
dogcatcher 106,340
bill oxner 80,945
stxranchman 57,291
SnakeWrangler 56,629
RKHarm24 44,585
rifleman 44,461
Gravytrain 42,057
BMD 41,160
Forum Statistics
Forums45
Topics599,780
Posts11,254,054
Members83,224
Most Online19,184
Feb 5th, 2020
Print Thread
Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 4
DEER DILEMMA #8074778 12/03/20 08:14 PM
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 1,847
H
Huntmaster Offline OP
Pro Tracker
OP Offline
Pro Tracker
H
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 1,847
So, you’re out hunting and it’s 5 minutes before dark. You’re in a one buck county, 13” limit. You’re watching your feeder and a big buck comes out, outside the ears. You squeeze off a shot and see him bolt. You get down and look, no blood, you look more, no blood. You start circles trying to get a blood trail-nothing. Brush and grass are waist high.
Hour and a half later; you quit. You go back to camp, you can’t stand it, you and another hunter go back, more light, look another hour-nothing! The next morning, you’re at the same stand, it’s early but legal. Out comes that buck and you drop him like a sack of potatoes. You go to look at him and he’s good, 16” deer. As the sun is coming up and glistening on the grass; you see something!! Eighty yards out is you’re giant buck from the night before!!!
1. Did you violate the law?
2. Do you call the game warden?
3. Do you keep the first buck and trash the second?
What do you do?

Re: DEER DILEMMA [Re: Huntmaster] #8074784 12/03/20 08:16 PM
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 27,351
T
txtrophy85 Online Content
THF Celebrity
Online Content
THF Celebrity
T
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 27,351
Is this something that really happened or are you asking for a friend?


For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
Re: DEER DILEMMA [Re: Huntmaster] #8074791 12/03/20 08:19 PM
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 1,847
H
Huntmaster Offline OP
Pro Tracker
OP Offline
Pro Tracker
H
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 1,847
Let’s say asking?

Re: DEER DILEMMA [Re: Huntmaster] #8074792 12/03/20 08:20 PM
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 1,100
Adchunts Offline
Pro Tracker
Offline
Pro Tracker
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 1,100
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. No

Re: DEER DILEMMA [Re: Adchunts] #8074804 12/03/20 08:26 PM
Joined: Nov 2018
Posts: 738
F
fishdfly Offline
Tracker
Offline
Tracker
F
Joined: Nov 2018
Posts: 738
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. No

A man with integrity..

Re: DEER DILEMMA [Re: fishdfly] #8074813 12/03/20 08:36 PM
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 1,847
H
Huntmaster Offline OP
Pro Tracker
OP Offline
Pro Tracker
H
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 1,847
So, could the game warden fine you a $1,000.00, take your deer and you end up with nothing?

Re: DEER DILEMMA [Re: Huntmaster] #8074818 12/03/20 08:40 PM
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,691
T
TLew Offline
Pro Tracker
Offline
Pro Tracker
T
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,691
How good is your hunting friend? Would he appreciate one of the bucks you took enough to use his one buck tag?

Accidents happen, and if it's truly an accident that you'll learn from and not repeat, I have a little more grace.

I sped yesterday to pass someone and didn't wind up in an accident, causing an accident, or mowing someone over -- I didn't call the police afterwards and ask for a ticket. If you didn't waste meat, you accounted for the buck with a tag, and you aren't going to repeat it then I would say the same thing.

Re: DEER DILEMMA [Re: Huntmaster] #8074819 12/03/20 08:45 PM
Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 6,187
M
Mr. T. Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
M
Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 6,187
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. No
4. Yes he could take your deer and fine you. He could
and most likely would take both bucks. Who's to say
that you did not shoot the little one first, then the big
one steps out and you shot him also.


Cabin rental in Pagosa Springs, Co.
Sleeps 10, If interested please PM me.
Re: DEER DILEMMA [Re: Huntmaster] #8074820 12/03/20 08:46 PM
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 7,192
H
hook_n_line Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
H
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 7,192
Tag one or the other and one has to be left laying.


Sometimes it's hard being me! But somebody has to do it.
Re: DEER DILEMMA [Re: Huntmaster] #8074832 12/03/20 08:56 PM
Joined: Nov 2018
Posts: 738
F
fishdfly Offline
Tracker
Offline
Tracker
F
Joined: Nov 2018
Posts: 738
If your young son was with you, what would you do then and what are you going to teach him?

How are you going to explain to him why you hunted the next morning versus looking for the deer in the daylight?

Could have called for a tracking dog.

Last edited by fishdfly; 12/03/20 09:07 PM.
Re: DEER DILEMMA [Re: Huntmaster] #8074836 12/03/20 08:58 PM
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 7,192
H
hook_n_line Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
H
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 7,192
This is 2020 flush happens.


Sometimes it's hard being me! But somebody has to do it.
Re: DEER DILEMMA [Re: Huntmaster] #8074854 12/03/20 09:13 PM
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 35,520
R
redchevy Offline
THF Celebrity
Offline
THF Celebrity
R
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 35,520
1. Did you violate the law? By the book, no.
2. Do you call the game warden? Not only no, but hell no.
3. Do you keep the first buck and trash the second? To keep it legal you better tag the second buck, no law broken if you make an attempt to recover and cant find it, but if you shoot one and leave it lay because you like a different one better that is against the law.
4. What do you do? You are allowed to keep deer heads you find on your property as far as I know. If it all happened to your... buddy... the way you say, the attempt was made to recover the deer and was unable to you are not required to burn your tag. So the second buck is legal and I would tag him. If it were me I would still collect the head.


It's hell eatin em live
Re: DEER DILEMMA [Re: fishdfly] #8074863 12/03/20 09:16 PM
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,691
T
TLew Offline
Pro Tracker
Offline
Pro Tracker
T
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,691
Originally Posted by fishdfly
If your young son was with you, what would you do then and what are you going to teach him?

How are you going to explain to him why you hunted the next morning versus looking for the deer in the daylight?

Could have called for a tracking dog.


If I were in that situation, I would absolutely tell my boy I messed up, why, and how. Contrary to what you're insinuating though, he would remember it because he wouldn't ever let me live it down

Re: DEER DILEMMA [Re: redchevy] #8074868 12/03/20 09:19 PM
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 6,758
D
DQ Kid Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
D
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 6,758
Originally Posted by redchevy
1. Did you violate the law? By the book, no.
2. Do you call the game warden? Not only no, but hell no.
3. Do you keep the first buck and trash the second? To keep it legal you better tag the second buck, no law broken if you make an attempt to recover and cant find it, but if you shoot one and leave it lay because you like a different one better that is against the law.
4. What do you do? You are allowed to keep deer heads you find on your property as far as I know. If it all happened to your... buddy... the way you say, the attempt was made to recover the deer and was unable to you are not required to burn your tag. So the second buck is legal and I would tag him. If it were me I would still collect the head.

I agree with RedChevy. An honest attempt was done the prior night, that is legally all that is required and prior to shooting that 2nd buck, no knowledge was known the other buck was laying dead from night before. Anyone saying a law was violated obviously does not know the law. Feel free to ask a game warden if you think I'm wrong on this...

Re: DEER DILEMMA [Re: Huntmaster] #8074876 12/03/20 09:20 PM
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 13,491
D
don k Online Content
THF Celebrity
Online Content
THF Celebrity
D
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 13,491
You do what you think you need to and keep it to yourself.

Re: DEER DILEMMA [Re: Huntmaster] #8074897 12/03/20 09:28 PM
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 1,800
H
Hunt Dog Offline
Pro Tracker
Offline
Pro Tracker
H
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 1,800
These are some gut check, moral inventory questions:

1: I don't think so. You legally shot what you believed to be a legal buck. You, and your friend, made a concerted effort to look for and retrieve that deer (that is what the law requires).
Should you have gone looking for that deer the next morning rather than hunt again? That's up to you. What was the weather like overnight? Was the meat going to be salvageable the next morning?

2: That's up to you. The GW may, or may not accept your version of events. They might cite you or give you a warning (the meat being salvageable the next morning might come into play).

3: Probably take whichever rack is better

Maybe you 'punish' yourself by only taking a doe next year because you already took next years buck.

Re: DEER DILEMMA [Re: Huntmaster] #8074902 12/03/20 09:30 PM
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 6,758
D
DQ Kid Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
D
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 6,758
Keep in mind, though you broke no laws whatsoever, your lease rules may be an entirely different situation regarding wounded deer, etc..

Re: DEER DILEMMA [Re: Huntmaster] #8074939 12/03/20 09:46 PM
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 18,475
T
Texas Dan Offline
THF Celebrity
Offline
THF Celebrity
T
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 18,475
I would call the game warden to see what he/she wants you to do. I can see one of two things happening...

1. He tells you not to make the same mistake again. Doesn't seem likely.

2. He shows up and takes one of the two deer to give to some needy person and issues you a ticket for exceeding the bag limit, but only if you tagged both deer, which you should do. I'm thinking this would carry a lesser fine than exceeding the limit and also not tagging the deer.

So either way, if you call the game warden or not, I would definitely tag both deer.

Last edited by Texas Dan; 12/03/20 09:47 PM.

Dan

Re: DEER DILEMMA [Re: DQ Kid] #8074945 12/03/20 09:50 PM
Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 6,187
M
Mr. T. Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
M
Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 6,187
Originally Posted by DQ Kid
Keep in mind, though you broke no laws whatsoever..

So, you are saying that he can tags two bucks in a one buck county and is legal.


Cabin rental in Pagosa Springs, Co.
Sleeps 10, If interested please PM me.
Re: DEER DILEMMA [Re: Huntmaster] #8074948 12/03/20 09:50 PM
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 306
T
tailchaser93 Online Content
Bird Dog
Online Content
Bird Dog
T
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 306
If the deer was only 80 yards away you didn’t look very hard, now if the same scenario happened to me I wouldn’t waste either deer, but I wouldn’t call a game warden either even if it was an honest mistake. Also you should’ve been looking in the morning instead of hunting.

Re: DEER DILEMMA [Re: Mr. T.] #8074977 12/03/20 10:12 PM
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 6,758
D
DQ Kid Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
D
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 6,758
Originally Posted by Mr. T.
Originally Posted by DQ Kid
Keep in mind, though you broke no laws whatsoever..

So, you are saying that he can tags two bucks in a one buck county and is legal.

I am saying he was within his right to shoot the 2nd buck and tag that one.

Re: DEER DILEMMA [Re: Huntmaster] #8075041 12/03/20 10:56 PM
Joined: Nov 2018
Posts: 738
F
fishdfly Offline
Tracker
Offline
Tracker
F
Joined: Nov 2018
Posts: 738
I guess it comes down to legal and moral issues and effort put into finding the first deer.

If the deer was believed to be a 195 class deer, what effort would have been put forth?

Bet the dog would have been called and no hunting the next morning.

Re: DEER DILEMMA [Re: Huntmaster] #8075120 12/03/20 11:47 PM
Joined: Nov 2020
Posts: 566
BbarVRanch Online Content
Tracker
Online Content
Tracker
Joined: Nov 2020
Posts: 566
One has the right to remain silent on the internet.

They seldom do though. wink

As for suggestions on how to further infringe on the law,... I don't think that's great advice either.

Re: DEER DILEMMA [Re: hook_n_line] #8075207 12/04/20 12:25 AM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,742
C
ChrisB Offline
Pro Tracker
Offline
Pro Tracker
C
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,742
Originally Posted by hook_n_line
Tag one or the other and one has to be left laying.

I think this is the correct answer almost. Tag the second buck and leave the first lay. No laws are broken. And if I was on a lease I wouldn't shoot a buck next year.

Re: DEER DILEMMA [Re: fishdfly] #8075215 12/04/20 12:36 AM
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 7,456
B
Biscuit Online Shocked
THF Trophy Hunter
Online Shocked
THF Trophy Hunter
B
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 7,456
Originally Posted by fishdfly
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. No

A man with integrity..

Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 4
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread

© 2004-2019 OUTDOOR SITES NETWORK all rights reserved USA and Worldwide
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3