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Field scoring comparison #8065758 11/26/20 08:57 PM
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Y’all seem to like to score more when the answer is known so see how you like this. I purposely picked 4 bucks that are very similar shape and width and all slick 10 points. Less than 2” between all 4 widths. The upper left is off my new lease and others off my second lease. All this year except upper right was 2019. Upper left fd 150#, upper right 164 fd, and others 140/145. I purposely cropped out hunters so you had nothing for comparison on size to offer perspective. Some are zoomed in more than others but I couldn’t avoid that. It can be very hard to estimate score. A little game for y’all to play in case your Thanksgiving is slow. Happy Thanksgiving.
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I wouldn’t have passed on any of them. They all meet my field measurement requirement.

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Nice ones

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It is interesting, reading all of them were within 2” of each other on width....i would have guessed a lot more for some.

Just based on the pics, bottom right looks widest at 24”, followed by bottom left at around 20-21”, the top two bring in the rear at around 19-20”

Thats what the pictures show me, but knowing what was written, the pics show me wrong. There is an obvious issue with the ears on some, but even then, i believe there is an issue with relative size of the deer, even though they all dressed out similar sizes. Head proportion....would be interesting to measure the heads and inter-ear wodth on those deer just for comparison, i look at those pics and have a real hard time saying they are all within 2” of each other on width.

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The inside spreads are in no particular order 21 2/8, 20 6/8, 19 6/8, 19 4/8. Hopefully we will get some guesses on scores. It looks like some of our regular scorers are hunting and busy with Thanksgiving. Keep in mind the main reason I posted these was to show just how hard it is to estimate score. Rather we realize it or not, to know how big something is we will compare it to something else. Whatever else is in the pic like the hunter or other deer or parts of the deer like ears, head, body etc.


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I never was much on score, but I would think the one the young lady shot scores the highest...But then maybe not, the one next tp it has some nice G2's and good beams.


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Free, I am going to sit this one out as I've been pretty much +/- 3-5" on nearly every scoring estimate I've submitted on THF over the last 1-2 years. I guess 40+ years of hunting South Texas was good for something having seen hundreds if not thousands of live and harvested bucks during those years. I do enjoy your posts of your awesome bucks, can you remind me of the county they are in?

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I thought this was a real interesting set of pics to play with trying to score. Thread hasnt gotten much action so Im hoping its because Thanksgiving weekend and everybody busy. I would really like to see what STx thinks but I guess hes on an extended Mule deer hunt. Quite a few regulars that usually try to score I would like to hear from. Its really difficult to score with no more than this to go on so maybe some are nervous about throwing out a score.


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Originally Posted by freerange
I thought this was a real interesting set of pics to play with trying to score. Thread hasnt gotten much action so Im hoping its because Thanksgiving weekend and everybody busy. I would really like to see what STx thinks but I guess hes on an extended Mule deer hunt. Quite a few regulars that usually try to score I would like to hear from. Its really difficult to score with no more than this to go on so maybe some are nervous about throwing out a score.

I honestly prefer your live, individual field pics of deer; more fun for me to score on the hoof than 4 similar racked dead ones. This one feels more critiquing to me...

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DQ, I like the live ones much better as well but others have said they like to guess score when they get to eventually know answer. This one is very difficult but I picked it cause I think it will make a good teaching point about how difficult scoring is without the proper pics an angles etc.


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Top Left 144-146
Top Rt 139-141
Bot Left 151-153
Bot Rt 149-151


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Originally Posted by ILUVBIGBUCKS
Top Left 144-146
Top Rt 139-141
Bot Left 151-153
Bot Rt 149-151

I see 150, 147, 152 and 158 in the same order..

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Sorry free, I think you posted this because of some of my comments recently and I was away playing at the lease.

I think the bottom left (I'll call it Nails) was the biggest just at first glance. Looking a little longer, here are my guesses....

Top left: 152
Top right: 148
Bottom left: 156
Bottom right: 159

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Originally Posted by TLew
Sorry free, I think you posted this because of some of my comments recently and I was away playing at the lease.

I think the bottom left (I'll call it Nails) was the biggest just at first glance. Looking a little longer, here are my guesses....

Top left: 152
Top right: 148
Bottom left: 156
Bottom right: 159

TLew, yes, your comments gave me the idea. And then two of these bucks got killed just a few days ago and I thought it was uncanny how we had killed 3 bucks within two weeks of each other and another last year that looked so much alike. And then as I texted some of my friends the pics they kept getting the scores wrong. Im holding out to give any results hoping STx can climb up a mountain wherever hes hunting and get cell enough to comment. Hoping other regulars will chime in too. Thanks to yall chiming in so far.

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Originally Posted by freerange
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Sorry free, I think you posted this because of some of my comments recently and I was away playing at the lease.

I think the bottom left (I'll call it Nails) was the biggest just at first glance. Looking a little longer, here are my guesses....

Top left: 152
Top right: 148
Bottom left: 156
Bottom right: 159

TLew, yes, your comments gave me the idea. And then two of these bucks got killed just a few days ago and I thought it was uncanny how we had killed 3 bucks within two weeks of each other and another last year that looked so much alike. And then as I texted some of my friends the pics they kept getting the scores wrong. Im holding out to give any results hoping STx can climb up a mountain wherever hes hunting and get cell enough to comment. Hoping other regulars will chime in too. Thanks to yall chiming in so far.



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tough for me to score deer that I'm not familiar with, especially once they're on the ground.

pretty deer all around though. looks like you have some solid genetic traits for big 10s

I think I might post up a deer from my lease and see what folks think.

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Originally Posted by kyle1974
tough for me to score deer that I'm not familiar with, especially once they're on the ground.

pretty deer all around though. looks like you have some solid genetic traits for big 10s

I think I might post up a deer from my lease and see what folks think.

Kyle, please post some. I post a lot cause I think its a great way for me and others to learn and I just really like looking at deer and I know others do, Scoring is always hard and I agree with you that its even harder when dead and just one pic. Thats really my point with this series is how hard it is to judge with just these pics.


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Originally Posted by freerange
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tough for me to score deer that I'm not familiar with, especially once they're on the ground.

pretty deer all around though. looks like you have some solid genetic traits for big 10s

I think I might post up a deer from my lease and see what folks think.

Kyle, please post some. I post a lot cause I think its a great way for me and others to learn and I just really like looking at deer and I know others do, Scoring is always hard and I agree with you that its even harder when dead and just one pic. Thats really my point with this series is how hard it is to judge with just these pics.


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Originally Posted by freerange

Kyle, please post some. I post a lot cause I think its a great way for me and others to learn and I just really like looking at deer and I know others do, Scoring is always hard and I agree with you that its even harder when dead and just one pic. Thats really my point with this series is how hard it is to judge with just these pics.




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These threads are great for everyone for sure and can only help us all.

I love all the ones you've put up this season already!

Good stuff freerange!


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Originally Posted by TLew
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tough for me to score deer that I'm not familiar with, especially once they're on the ground.

pretty deer all around though. looks like you have some solid genetic traits for big 10s

I think I might post up a deer from my lease and see what folks think.

Kyle, please post some. I post a lot cause I think its a great way for me and others to learn and I just really like looking at deer and I know others do, Scoring is always hard and I agree with you that its even harder when dead and just one pic. Thats really my point with this series is how hard it is to judge with just these pics.


I'm still waiting for the answer key to see how bad I failed


on the one I know the answer to you are off by a little over 10%....not gonna tell you which one that was. My guess is the scores we have seen so far are all quite a bit off.

I will say this, when I saw the buck in person this weekend that I know the answer on, I was shocked how much bigger it was in person compared to the pics. The pics do NOT do it justice at all, make it look way smaller (approx 20-30 inches smaller based on most guesses here so far) than it actually is. Again, not gonna say which one, but it is interesting how everyone is judging that deer way smaller than it actually is.

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Originally Posted by Texas buckeye
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tough for me to score deer that I'm not familiar with, especially once they're on the ground.

pretty deer all around though. looks like you have some solid genetic traits for big 10s

I think I might post up a deer from my lease and see what folks think.

Kyle, please post some. I post a lot cause I think its a great way for me and others to learn and I just really like looking at deer and I know others do, Scoring is always hard and I agree with you that its even harder when dead and just one pic. Thats really my point with this series is how hard it is to judge with just these pics.


I'm still waiting for the answer key to see how bad I failed


on the one I know the answer to you are off by a little over 10%....not gonna tell you which one that was. My guess is the scores we have seen so far are all quite a bit off.

I will say this, when I saw the buck in person this weekend that I know the answer on, I was shocked how much bigger it was in person compared to the pics. The pics do NOT do it justice at all, make it look way smaller (approx 20-30 inches smaller based on most guesses here so far) than it actually is. Again, not gonna say which one, but it is interesting how everyone is judging that deer way smaller than it actually is.

I'm sure they're all a lot wider than we're giving them credit for and carrying more mass too. That 2nd one has shorter tines but carrying quite a bit of mass that is probably getting severely shortchanged by most..

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DQ, FR gave the widths in random order in one of his posts already. they go from 21and change down to 19 and change, I know one, but don't know the widths on the rest, so have no idea which is which really.

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Originally Posted by DQ Kid
Free, I am going to sit this one out as I've been pretty much +/- 3-5" on nearly every scoring estimate I've submitted on THF over the last 1-2 years. I guess 40+ years of hunting South Texas was good for something having seen hundreds if not thousands of live and harvested bucks during those years. I do enjoy your posts of your awesome bucks, can you remind me of the county they are in?

DQ, sorry, I never answered your question about what county. 3 of 4 from Throckmorton.


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Originally Posted by Texas buckeye
DQ, FR gave the widths in random order in one of his posts already. they go from 21and change down to 19 and change, I know one, but don't know the widths on the rest, so have no idea which is which really.


I guess I missed that 2nd post on inside spreads. Obviously we're off on how much mass and tine lengths they're carrying.

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