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Shooting unpointed birds
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11/18/20 01:49 AM
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68rustbucket
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Re: Shooting unpointed birds
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11/18/20 02:28 AM
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booskay
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IF you are there to kill birds,,, just covey shoot before they fly.
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Re: Shooting unpointed birds
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11/18/20 02:30 AM
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Somebeach
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Nope. Have let many fly. Paid off in the long run without a doubt
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Re: Shooting unpointed birds
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11/18/20 04:19 AM
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68rustbucket
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Just wondering about opinions. I personally don’t.
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Re: Shooting unpointed birds
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11/18/20 04:54 PM
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"Give me an Army of West Point graduates and I'll win a battle... Give me a handful of Texas Aggies and I'll win a war." - General Patton
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Re: Shooting unpointed birds
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11/18/20 05:39 PM
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CCBIRDDOGMAN
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Pups on ground, no. Hunting with seasoned dogs and a bird jumps up away from dogs but close to me, it's a dead bird.
Haven't had it in years but never spit any out. I am a sucker for happy endings and strapped cowboys.
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Re: Shooting unpointed birds
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11/18/20 05:52 PM
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rioman42
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Pups on ground, no. Hunting with seasoned dogs and a bird jumps up away from dogs but close to me, it's a dead bird. SAME
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Re: Shooting unpointed birds
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11/18/20 05:57 PM
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Mundo
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young dogs no. Older dog that stop to flush yes.
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Re: Shooting unpointed birds
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11/18/20 06:01 PM
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Yes, back in the day. No now.
Quail hunting is like walking into, and out of a beautiful painting all day long. Gene Hill
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Re: Shooting unpointed birds
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11/18/20 06:18 PM
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scalebuster
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Pups on ground, no. Hunting with seasoned dogs and a bird jumps up away from dogs but close to me, it's a dead bird.
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Re: Shooting unpointed birds
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11/18/20 06:24 PM
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bill oxner
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young dogs no. Older dog that stop to flush yes. Do you still hunt one of the Brisco ranches?
Quail hunting is like walking into, and out of a beautiful painting all day long. Gene Hill
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Re: Shooting unpointed birds
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#8055271
11/18/20 06:48 PM
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Pups on ground, no. Hunting with seasoned dogs and a bird jumps up away from dogs but close to me, it's a dead bird. X3
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Re: Shooting unpointed birds
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11/18/20 06:59 PM
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Bob white, not anymore. I will probably watch where it goes and see if a dog can get it pointed. At this stage it is about the dog work for me. Blue quail and seasoned dog, maybe. Pheasant, Grouse, Huns or Woodcock no.
Smokey Bear---Lone Star State.
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Re: Shooting unpointed birds
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11/18/20 07:57 PM
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young dogs no. Older dog that stop to flush yes. That’s the info I was looking for.
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Re: Shooting unpointed birds
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11/18/20 09:47 PM
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Mundo
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Do you still hunt one of the Brisco ranches?[/quote]
Yes---seeing a lot of birds but bad scenting conditions. Other pastures still have a manager who makes it hard to quail hunt during deer season.
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Re: Shooting unpointed birds
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11/18/20 09:53 PM
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bill oxner
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Do you still hunt one of the Brisco ranches?[/quote] Yes---seeing a lot of birds but bad scenting conditions. Other pastures still have a manager who makes it hard to quail hunt during deer season. [/quote] Went there one time as a guest of a bird dogger that I had takeen to my lease up in Choncho county.
Quail hunting is like walking into, and out of a beautiful painting all day long. Gene Hill
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Re: Shooting unpointed birds
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11/19/20 02:58 AM
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68rustbucket
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Do you still hunt one of the Brisco ranches?[/quote] Yes---seeing a lot of birds but bad scenting conditions. Other pastures still have a manager who makes it hard to quail hunt during deer season. [/quote] Glad to hear it’s just not my dogs having trouble scenting birds. Does make it tough working a young dog.
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Re: Shooting unpointed birds
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11/19/20 12:45 PM
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bill oxner
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Do you still hunt one of the Brisco ranches? Yes---seeing a lot of birds but bad scenting conditions. Other pastures still have a manager who makes it hard to quail hunt during deer season. [/quote] Glad to hear it’s just not my dogs having trouble scenting birds. Does make it tough working a young dog. [/quote] They did not allow vehicles off the road when I was there. Has that changed?
Quail hunting is like walking into, and out of a beautiful painting all day long. Gene Hill
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Re: Shooting unpointed birds
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11/19/20 01:36 PM
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Re: Shooting unpointed birds
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11/20/20 02:17 AM
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Re: Shooting unpointed birds
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#8058743
11/21/20 03:40 PM
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If the dog bumps them, No. A wild flush that was not the dogs fault, Yes.
We all need to practice Whoa more.
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Re: Shooting unpointed birds
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11/21/20 04:37 PM
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68rustbucket
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I was thinking more on the wild flush line, never would shoot a bird my dog bumped.
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Re: Shooting unpointed birds
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#8058892
11/21/20 05:38 PM
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Dave Scott
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I tried Blue Quail a couple of years ago but didn't stir any up (Black Gap WMA) but I think the ground is open enough for it to work. On Bobwhites, if there is brush, tall grass etc.- I tried without a dog and YES you can scare some up but there are two problems, First, the birds won't fly without a dog, they'll just keep walking away. I have fired one round to make them fly and then I have only one shot left in my double gun. The hit bird then soars down into brush and without a dog you have real problems finding it, so I don't hunt birds that way any more. I really like dove shooting in a field. After deer hunting that is my favorite,
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Re: Shooting unpointed birds
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#8062696
11/24/20 04:08 PM
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bassfishinglawyer
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Yes - get to work on retrieve, finding dead birds, etc. Often not the dogs fault.
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Re: Shooting unpointed birds
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11/24/20 05:45 PM
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Tex68w
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It depends on the situation but I rarely let a bird go that I can get a clean shot on. The dogs appreciate the kill and retrieve. This doesn't happen very often in my experience.
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