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Scaled quail in West Texas a quality alternative for hunters #8032879 11/01/20 06:20 PM
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Remote and a long drive for most but it sure sound good for APH Hunts. Love some Rag Top Hunts.

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West Texas is calling for quail hunters.

While hunting prospects for bobwhites are somewhat bleak this season across much of Texas, opportunity abounds for scaled quail under the wide-open skies of the state’s Trans-Pecos region.

And that opportunity is available to all who purchase a $48 annual public hunting permit.

The seemingly endless expanse of the 103,127-acre Black Gap wildlife management area and 23,147-acre Elephant Mountain WMA provides plenty of room for hunting blues (or “cottontops” as they are also sometimes referred) on public land.

“It’s a great alternative,” said John McLaughlin, Texas Parks and Wildlife Department’s West Texas quail program leader.

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Re: Scaled quail in West Texas a quality alternative for hunters [Re: jeh7mmmag] #8034653 11/02/20 10:47 PM
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Doesn't seem like a 23k acre spot would be able to sustain a bird population for all that many hunters.

Re: Scaled quail in West Texas a quality alternative for hunters [Re: machine73] #8039719 11/05/20 10:40 PM
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Has anyone hunted Black Gap before. I'm willing to drive down and run the dogs for a couple of days, but 100K+ acres...where do you start looking?


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Re: Scaled quail in West Texas a quality alternative for hunters [Re: nak] #8039784 11/05/20 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by nak
Has anyone hunted Black Gap before. I'm willing to drive down and run the dogs for a couple of days, but 100K+ acres...where do you start looking?


I’d get a map and find the water holes.make a round when you get to the water with the dogs. Other than that Drive the roads and look for bird, when you see a covey shoot them on the ground and bust them up even if they are too far to kill. Watch them down and hope they don’t go down in a group. Throw the dogs out and get up there quick when they go on point. With blues it’s all about killing bird, kill them any way you can.The dogs are just there to help. You’ll get good dog work if you can bust a covey in an area with enough cover for bird to hold. Keep your ears open in the morning, stop and listen in spots with good cover. If you hear bird throw the dogs out and point them in the right direction. Don’t be afraid to run. It’s not a leisurely hunt. You will do much better if you take a couple of buddy’s with you that can run.

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Originally Posted by scalebuster
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Has anyone hunted Black Gap before. I'm willing to drive down and run the dogs for a couple of days, but 100K+ acres...where do you start looking?


I’d get a map and find the water holes.make a round when you get to the water with the dogs. Other than that Drive the roads and look for bird, when you see a covey shoot them on the ground and bust them up even if they are too far to kill. Watch them down and hope they don’t go down in a group. Throw the dogs out and get up there quick when they go on point. With blues it’s all about killing bird, kill them any way you can.The dogs are just there to help. You’ll get good dog work if you can bust a covey in an area with enough cover for bird to hold. Keep your ears open in the morning, stop and listen in spots with good cover. If you hear bird throw the dogs out and point them in the right direction. Don’t be afraid to run. It’s not a leisurely hunt. You will do much better if you take a couple of buddy’s with you that can run.


Solid advice. I will add on hitting the guzzlers, don't drive right up to them. You will not be the first to have pressured those birds. The birds will start running the moment they see/hear your truck, so instead stop short and walk in with the dogs on each one. Your dogs will need boots and take a couple extra sets. It's all rock and cactus. Vault toilet at the river camp will be FULL of black widows. Take a full can of bug spray to fog that thing if you camp there.

Re: Scaled quail in West Texas a quality alternative for hunters [Re: jeh7mmmag] #8041492 11/07/20 03:26 PM
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thanks

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I've hiked all over Big Bend NP in the area just west of Black Gap and haven't ever seen any quail. I keep reading that there are quail in the WMA though. Maybe the condition are better there than in Big Bend NP.

It's a beautiful area though and a hunt there sounds like a lot of fun. I usually go to Big Bend in January or February. Bring your own shade and don't plan to run the dogs too long. Even in the winter the afternoons get very hot in lower areas.

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Re: Scaled quail in West Texas a quality alternative for hunters [Re: jeh7mmmag] #8046490 11/11/20 03:28 PM
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Seeing some in Mitchell county. Waiting for the snakes to den up. Was there deer hunting this weekend, seen 1 rattlesnake. Buddy seen it crossing road a camp at dark. He wasnt able to kill it. To fast for him i guess. B Careful out there.

Re: Scaled quail in West Texas a quality alternative for hunters [Re: nak] #8048977 11/13/20 03:23 AM
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Re: Scaled quail in West Texas a quality alternative for hunters [Re: jeh7mmmag] #8050824 11/14/20 10:46 PM
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Wish it was open Black Friday weekend. Really has limited openings to hunt...

Re: Scaled quail in West Texas a quality alternative for hunters [Re: jeh7mmmag] #8057322 11/20/20 04:56 AM
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Might consider this in February. We spend lots of time in both parks every year and I have never seen single quail so I have my doubts.

Re: Scaled quail in West Texas a quality alternative for hunters [Re: jeh7mmmag] #8057409 11/20/20 12:59 PM
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My boys got drawn for a youth javalina hunt at Black Gap years ago. We had a ball down there and I've always wanted to go back. Love that country. As soon as i get a deer in the freezer, prob head there, New Mexico or AZ. Or all the above! Theres got to be some birds somewhere.

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If theres any green up birds dont need water. Look for good cover in rolling hills

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Originally Posted by blanked
If theres any green up birds dont need water. Look for good cover in rolling hills



Yep. I've seen bobwhite quail survive without drinking water.


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Originally Posted by Cass

I've hiked all over Big Bend NP in the area just west of Black Gap and haven't ever seen any quail. I keep reading that there are quail in the WMA though. Maybe the condition are better there than in Big Bend NP.

It's a beautiful area though and a hunt there sounds like a lot of fun. I usually go to Big Bend in January or February. Bring your own shade and don't plan to run the dogs too long. Even in the winter the afternoons get very hot in lower areas.

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I've spent time in Big Bend and didn't see a single animal larger than a jackrabbit save for 1 pack of Javelina near the river. I didn't spend any time up in the Chisos mountains but I would assume thats where the animals would be


The rest of the park was devoid of any life. Didn't see a Quail bird one


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I’d still love to hike that park

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Black Gap also has a fair amount of doves.

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If theres any green up birds dont need water. Look for good cover in rolling hills



Yep. I've seen bobwhite quail survive without drinking water.


I actually think this may be quail's competitive advantage over many predators. So setting up watering sites may actually reduce quail numbers.

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