If the OP has been a Dove / Deer hunter for years, I'm sure he's aware of Sitka and already has some decent camo clothing. I duck hunt in a Sitka Whitetail jacket but don't tell the ducks that...

As mentioned above, you can be into some decent waders and a couple boxes of #2 or #3 steel for under $200. Start there, see if you like it, then invest accordingly.

Edit: I also hunt with an A300 so you're off to a good start

I like the idea of stocking foot waders, but bending over and tying boots is not a big mans dream come true

Shuter down. Nothing more to say.

Actually Sitka was started about 6 years before Kuiu. But I do agree agree with you on Sitka having way better marketing.

Yelp Jason started both. One is now beholden solely to Gore Textiles, other free range/ market to use any thing competitive or emerging in the market

This?
Are y'all dense? You're not even comparing apples to apples or even oranges.
I just recommended the best stuff, he can go from there. I thought drake was good, now all that money i spent on drake is wasted bc I'm switching to sitka.
Bismuth is definitely superior to steel. Y'all can try to deny it all you want, but 95% of y'all don't have a clue bc you've never shot it.
I bought gator waders the first go around, lasted 1.5 seasons, extremely disappointed and cost $350. I wish I would of known not to go that route.

So to close it up. You're a sucker for a marketing campaign.

He did not state that steel was or was not superior to bismuth. He simply.knows that not the way you get into a new hobby. Unless you're a trust fund kid trying to be an instagram influencer.

Not at all

If he goes out and cripples a bunch of ducks that can turn a person off just as easily.
And there's some days where you just don't shoot good and cripple every bird you shoot. Bismuth helps with that immensely.
Bismuth is being a responsible hunter in my opinion

Just a thought, but if you would have come here before buying said $350 waders that I've never heard anyone recommending on this site or any other you would only be out $100 bucks for magellans.

I bought the $100 Magellans one day in a pinch. Returned that same day. They were awful

Smokey, boss has actually been proven to be better than lead. It's the copper coating i believe.

Also, for anyone that's curious, here's why boss bismuth is better. It takes #2 or #3 steel to act like boss #5. But now using a smaller shot you get more pellets on target. More pellets equals better killing.

I'm not saying steel won't kill, it does, but it's not nearly as effective.
And you're right, you don't need bismuth, but the facts have been out, if people shot bismuth and not steel it's a large amount of number of birds that go back to the breeding grounds.

Having a good dog helps, but bismuth doesn't cripple like steel. It's usually a clean miss or dead bird. Steel isn't like that.
But anyways, I guess science doesn't apply here

If you’re a good shooter, doesn’t matter if your shooting steel or bismuth. Your folding them up either way. I’ve shot steel my whole life. But will be trying BOSS shells this year. Want to see what all the hypes about. I’ve got some buddies that shot the 2 3/4 #5’s last year and swear by them now. So proof will be in the pudding.

Sinkey you don't know what your talking about. This guy heard ramsey sell some boss and now he's thw authority not all things ducks.

Work better in smaller bores, think it’s an expensive wash in 12

Lol.

That’s what I want to see. Bought 2 boxes of 2 3/4 and 2 boxes of 3’s. If I don’t like them, my old reliable Remington Hypersonics will be close by for sure.

I stumbled upon what looked like a case of 20 gauge boss hulls laying under a tree last year. Either they shot 30 limits or they still did not know how to finish birds.

You talking about ramsey russell?
I knew about boss before I knew about him, and I'd trust ramsey a lot quicker than I'd trust you.

I'm sure you live by the saying "we've always done it this way"

Good made up story

Blasphemy

Jr. You'll see I've never stated boss was junk. Just that you're a window licker in your advice giving.

For a hundred dollar bet I'll head up there and take a picture. Let me know.

Why didn't you pick them up to begin with?
I know it's not your trash, but still...

Who cares if the dude shoots ducks with steel out of a NEF while wearing Walmart camo with trash bags on his legs or, shoots ducks with tungsten out of an H&H while wearing Sitka. Spend $100 or $10k, whatever floats your boat.

Yeah ducknbass. Why didn’t you pick them up?