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Re: Nothing in North America demands more respect than the Grizzly [Re: Texas Dan] #7989639 09/27/20 05:44 AM
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In Texas, I'm always looking for snakes and occasionally noticing deer. In the mountains of Idaho, I haven't looked for a snake in years, and am seeing a lot more game! smile

Re: Nothing in North America demands more respect than the Grizzly [Re: Blank] #7989735 09/27/20 01:42 PM
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In Texas, I'm always looking for snakes and occasionally noticing deer. In the mountains of Idaho, I haven't looked for a snake in years, and am seeing a lot more game! smile


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Re: Nothing in North America demands more respect than the Grizzly [Re: Texas Dan] #7997421 10/04/20 02:22 AM
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Re: Nothing in North America demands more respect than the Grizzly [Re: Texas Dan] #7997433 10/04/20 02:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Texas Dan
"Of the strength and ferocity of the animal the Indians had given us dreadful accounts. They never attack him except in parties of six or eight persons, and even then are often defeated with the loss of one or more of their party."

Meriwether Lewis and William Clark, The Journals of Lewis and Clark (1805)



If you attack a bear with arrows and clubs like the Indians did, you're probably going to get what's coming to you. That's not exactly showing it respect.

Re: Nothing in North America demands more respect than the Grizzly [Re: Texas Dan] #7997494 10/04/20 03:43 AM
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Re: Nothing in North America demands more respect than the Grizzly [Re: Texas Dan] #7997509 10/04/20 04:16 AM
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Which would win in a fight:
Silverback gorilla or Grizzly?


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Re: Nothing in North America demands more respect than the Grizzly [Re: gusick] #7997523 10/04/20 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by gusick
Originally Posted by Texas Dan
"Of the strength and ferocity of the animal the Indians had given us dreadful accounts. They never attack him except in parties of six or eight persons, and even then are often defeated with the loss of one or more of their party."

Meriwether Lewis and William Clark, The Journals of Lewis and Clark (1805)



If you attack a bear with arrows and clubs like the Indians did, you're probably going to get what's coming to you. That's not exactly showing it respect.

It worked for them back in the day did it not?


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Re: Nothing in North America demands more respect than the Grizzly [Re: Texas Dan] #7997544 10/04/20 07:12 AM
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Statistically speaking deers kill more people in North America than any other animal – around 200 human deaths every year. And how do they do this? With their killer antlers and powerful kicking hooves? No, they are just really bad at crossing roads. So bad that in 2000 it is estimated that around 100,000 were run over in the US alone. They even have an official name for it; a deer-vehicle collision or DVC for short. The primary culprits are white tailed deer, they appear particularly stupid.


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Re: Nothing in North America demands more respect than the Grizzly [Re: Texas Dan] #7997597 10/04/20 11:52 AM
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Lets see they can grow up to 9 feet tall and weigh 1,500 lbs and can run up to 35 mph oh and they are meat eaters also and have dined on a few people before.
The grizzly bear would be my most feared and respected N. American animal.

This is a famous Hollywood bear named Bart, he is only 8.5" and 1,100 ponds.

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Re: Nothing in North America demands more respect than the Grizzly [Re: dogcatcher] #7997639 10/04/20 12:51 PM
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Re: Nothing in North America demands more respect than the Grizzly [Re: Texas Dan] #7997856 10/04/20 04:39 PM
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Can you imagine if Honey badgers were the size of grizzlies???? Just sayin'!!

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Re: Nothing in North America demands more respect than the Grizzly [Re: Blank] #7998040 10/04/20 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Blank
Can you imagine if Honey badgers were the size of grizzlies???? Just sayin'!!


Well for that matter, I've heard it said that ants would rule the world if they were the size of dogs.


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Re: Nothing in North America demands more respect than the Grizzly [Re: LFD2037] #7998177 10/04/20 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by LFD2037
Which would win in a fight:
Silverback gorilla or Grizzly?


Mano i mano, I think the grizzly would win, but gorillas have the intelligence and the opposable thumbs to use weapons if they are available. If you put a baseball bat, sword, or loaded gun in the cage with them, the gorilla would have a pretty good chance.

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Originally Posted by LFD2037
Which would win in a fight:
Silverback gorilla or Grizzly?

Grizzly....hands down I believe.
Likely cut that gorilla in two pieces with a couple swipes of the paw.

A rancher up in MT many years ago told me that if a full grown 2klb bull got a running start he could roll a grizzly bear but if they stood toe to toe a full grown grizzly would knock his bull arse flat out!

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Re: Nothing in North America demands more respect than the Grizzly [Re: LFD2037] #7999114 10/05/20 06:36 PM
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The average lower 48 grizzly arent all that big comparison wise to brothers up north

think average lower 48 boar is like 400’ish and sow 250’ish, can’t remember off top of my head, but it’s suprisinly lighter then up north


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Re: Nothing in North America demands more respect than the Grizzly [Re: LFD2037] #7999608 10/06/20 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by LFD2037
Which would win in a fight:
Silverback gorilla or Grizzly?


My money is on the grizzly. They're monsters, one swipe of the paw and that gorilla would be toast.

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Originally Posted by Blank
Can you imagine if Honey badgers were the size of grizzlies???? Just sayin'!!


Isn't that a wolverine, not a Honey Badger?

Can you imagine if Wolverines were the size of Grizzlies?eeks333


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Re: Nothing in North America demands more respect than the Grizzly [Re: TXHOGSLAYER] #7999749 10/06/20 02:15 AM
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Can you imagine if Honey badgers were the size of grizzlies???? Just sayin'!!


Isn't that a wolverine, not a Honey Badger?

Can you imagine if Wolverines were the size of Grizzlies?eeks333


Then they wouldn’t have to walk around acting like txhuntr


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Apex predators for sure! Plus they are so cool!

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Originally Posted by BOBO the Clown
The average lower 48 grizzly arent all that big comparison wise to brothers up north

think average lower 48 boar is like 400’ish and sow 250’ish, can’t remember off top of my head, but it’s suprisinly lighter then up north


The Grizzlies bears are a separate subspecies of the Brown bear. Just like there are 17 different sub species of Whitetail deer in N. America, 4 of them in Texas.

As they say, all Grizzlies are Brown bears, not all Brown bears are Grizzly bears.

On a couple of shows I watched they state that the Kodiak bear is actually a Grizzly bear that lives on the island of Kodiak, it is larger because of the tremendous amount of food and fish available.
I have also heard others say it is a separate subspecies of the Brown bear?

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Originally Posted by aerangis
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Which would win in a fight:
Silverback gorilla or Grizzly?


My money is on the grizzly. They're monsters, one swipe of the paw and that gorilla would be toast.



if you ask the internet the Grizzly would win hands down. Not even a question


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Years ago at a zoo there was a gorilla in a cage next to a leopard. The gorilla was always rattling the bars trying to get at the leopard and finally the doors were open, or whatever- in the same cage. The leopard took the arm off the gorilla in one swipe- so I've been told. I'd bet on the giz.

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Originally Posted by Stub
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The average lower 48 grizzly arent all that big comparison wise to brothers up north

think average lower 48 boar is like 400’ish and sow 250’ish, can’t remember off top of my head, but it’s suprisinly lighter then up north


The Grizzlies bears are a separate subspecies of the Brown bear. Just like there are 17 different sub species of Whitetail deer in N. America, 4 of them in Texas.

As they say, all Grizzlies are Brown bears, not all Brown bears are Grizzly bears.

On a couple of shows I watched they state that the Kodiak bear is actually a Grizzly bear that lives on the island of Kodiak, it is larger because of the tremendous amount of food and fish available.
I have also heard others say it is a separate subspecies of the Brown bear?


From my understanding, brown bears are grizzlies and grizzlies in Alaska is a term used to specify which side of the 141 degree meridian they live on. the ABC inland bears also have Polar bear DNA.

But yes bear size is determined by food supply


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Which would win in a fight:
Silverback gorilla or Grizzly?


My money is on the grizzly. They're monsters, one swipe of the paw and that gorilla would be toast.



if you ask the internet the Grizzly would win hands down. Not even a question


Predator vs a herbivore.... pretty easy out come, way different internal thought processes


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