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Leupold VX-5HD vs Mark 4 #7997045 10/03/20 06:21 PM
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Looking for a good hunting/target scope for my tikka 270 WSM. Local shops a VX5 3-15 with the cds turret and duplex reticle for $950. They also have a Mark 4 3-10x with the TMR reticle for $1000.

Which would you pick, or is there a better option for the same money?


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The VX-5 will have noticeably better glass. The Mark 4 might track better.

Is vx-5 cds the cds-zl2 or just cds? I definitely don’t trust the original cds version.

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I have the exact VX5. I can't offer a comparison but can vouch for the low light performance, ability to hold zero under rough hunting conditions, dependability of the CDS set up and great clarity through full range of magnification of the VX5-HD. It's a great hunting scope, and I need the 15x over the 10x. I have it on a 20" CTR in .308 and have put a lot of game on the ground with it. I use the CDS dial often.


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Originally Posted by wp75169
The VX-5 will have noticeably better glass. The Mark 4 might track better.

Is vx-5 cds the cds-zl2 or just cds? I definitely don’t trust the original cds version.

Because of zero stop? I have both, old and new. I hear ya'.


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Re: Leupold VX-5HD vs Mark 4 [Re: Tactical Cowboy] #7997076 10/03/20 07:29 PM
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https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1362173644?pid=936654

Check this out, Mark 4, $699.00. Is this what you're after?


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Originally Posted by onlysmith&wesson
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The VX-5 will have noticeably better glass. The Mark 4 might track better.

Is vx-5 cds the cds-zl2 or just cds? I definitely don’t trust the original cds version.

Because of zero stop? I have both, old and new. I hear ya'.


Not just the zero stop. The new system has a different erector set up. Dual spring I believe vs single. Careful, I may have made that up, going on memory.

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I've always been impressed with Trijicon optics. The new Credo 2.5-10x36 is in that price range.

https://www.scopelist.com/Trijicon-...on-Tree-30mm-Matte-Black-Riflescope.aspx

I recently bought a Primary Arms Gold series optic and it's very nice.

https://www.primaryarms.com/glx-4-16x50-ffp-rifle-scope-mil-dot-reticle





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Originally Posted by wp75169
The VX-5 will have noticeably better glass. The Mark 4 might track better.

Is vx-5 cds the cds-zl2 or just cds? I definitely don’t trust the original cds version.


I don't know which cds version it is.

I took both s opes outside,and I liked the glass better on the VX5. I liked the turrets and reticle better on the mk4.


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Originally Posted by onlysmith&wesson
I have the exact VX5. I can't offer a comparison but can vouch for the low light performance, ability to hold zero under rough hunting conditions, dependability of the CDS set up and great clarity through full range of magnification of the VX5-HD. It's a great hunting scope, and I need the 15x over the 10x. I have it on a 20" CTR in .308 and have put a lot of game on the ground with it. I use the CDS dial often.


Thanks for the input. I highly doubt I shoot at an animal father than 300 yards, but I have never had a good scope.


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Re: Leupold VX-5HD vs Mark 4 [Re: Tactical Cowboy] #7997411 10/04/20 02:13 AM
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FWIW, Mk4's are discontinued I believe

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The glass will be better in the 5

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Asking the MK4 to shoot distance will work better.

Better turrets, better reticle. Is the glass bad? Not even a little bit.

Duplex reticle gives you little help in perfect elevation holds, and perfect wind holds. TMR reticle will allow you to put your bullet exactly where you want it, if you know how.


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Re: Leupold VX-5HD vs Mark 4 [Re: onlysmith&wesson] #7997503 10/04/20 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by onlysmith&wesson
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1362173644?pid=936654

Check this out, Mark 4, $699.00. Is this what you're after?


Great deal !!!

I have this on, capped turrets, very repeatable but NO zero stop, I prefer a zero stop

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Re: Leupold VX-5HD vs Mark 4 [Re: Tactical Cowboy] #7998393 10/05/20 01:31 AM
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Them mark 4 at midway is hard to beat, I bought 2 of them last month, glass is nice and the tmr retical is spot on.
I zeroed them both in 2 shots a week ago Wednesday.

The basic reticals tha Leupold tend to offer in their higher end scopes are lacking in my opinion and the price they are asking I’d rather buy a night force Nx8 in either the 2-20 or the 4-32 because it’s far superior to Leupold.

Any scope out there under a grand doesn’t even come close to the mark 4 for $699 from midway. In terms of reliability and glass quality.

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I'll also give a 1 up to the MK4. Discontinued but under 1k for this scope is great. Bought one used because I couldn't find a new one and am very pleased. Also have a MK4 ERT in 6.5-20 and like it a lot.

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I got the VX5 for ~$800 from a shop in Pennsylvania.

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I’m a real fan of the VX5 3-15 CDS. If the OP is mostly a hunter and is keeping shots inside 300 yards (or 400, or 500, for that matter), dialing the CDS will do everything he needs. If, however, he’s shooting long distance steel, the Mark IV would be a better choice.

If he gets the VX5, do get the firedot. It’s amazingly useful.


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I have to give the nod to my VX-5Hds over the MK4. I own both and really like the 5HD better. I have the Impact MOA reticle and I couldn't be happier for the money I spent on it. Low light performance is great and much better than the MK4.

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