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Are you seeing this trend. #7989706 09/27/20 12:52 PM
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Took a drive yesterday over to the Twin Oaks launch for Lake Lavon. Since it reopened from the droughts several years back, the entrance has had potholes. I mean they are big and could cause damage to a vehicle or a boat trailer. I have never seen them get fill or if they were there was no black top put on to secure the gravel. As time has gone by, folks have tried to go around and create new paths, but are now running out a space to do that.

This is a popular park and boat launch. Does anyone know after 4 years why this place can't be repaired? I look at places like RayBob or Cooper's public launches and they are so much better.

The Caddo launch just on the other side of Twin Oaks look great, but they have never even opened that access point.

Is it the Army Corps of Engineers responsibility or do they delegate this to the State?

Thoughts on this problem? Or is there anyone from the Parks on here that can provide some insight? What can we do to get our public facilities that are in need be brought up to standard.


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Please do not file a complaint with the Corp, they will close it for "safety " issues if you complain and never fix it, it will stay closed for 4 years waiting to be fixed. Lots of good fishing up that way and those fisherman will not be happy.
The Corp has always been terrible at Lavon.

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I haven't and won't, just an observation. Was wondering if other parks are suffering the same fate. We have such a great State, we should take care of it.


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Lavon corps sucks. Look around the lake at the parks closed. Then look at the few that are open. Place is a crap hole. I wish they'd let the cities put some parks up similar to lewisville.

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Ps. Screw the biologist for not doing a deer draw. Some of the biggest deer in texas live on that corps land.

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Originally Posted by ducknbass
Lavon corps sucks. Look around the lake at the parks closed. Then look at the few that are open. Place is a crap hole. I wish they'd let the cities put some parks up similar to lewisville.



That’s an understatement. Spent a lot of time camping and hunting around there as a kid (rabbits, squirrels), was nice back then. Place is a [censored] hole now, and has been for the last 15-20 yrs. Ridiculous.

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Originally Posted by ducknbass
Ps. Screw the biologist for not doing a deer draw. Some of the biggest deer in texas live on that corps land.


An old buddy of mine used to own some land that backed up to the floodplain to the south. Used to spend our days running between Ray Hubbard and Lavon on horses. Saw some good deer.

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I've been fishing that lake since the 70's, that park/ramp entrance and the others around the lake have ALWAYS been rutted and potholed and facilities trashy. It's always been a craphole and junkyard of a lake and it shows.

It's called "Trailer Trash Lake" for a reason, and not because of the trailer park off the Lucas Road bridge either.

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Elm Creek is probably as bad. Was there a couple of mounts ago. There were holes that could snap ball joints.

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Lavon is a dump, but as mohunter said, don't complain about that or they will just close it, which is what they love to do. They shut all ramps down except 1 because of covid, how smart is that? Yeah they really help things making everyone pack into one ramp. And now ramps with camp sites, they open at 10:00am, that used covid as a reason, now they decided to just make that a standard practice. One thing we should complain about is them restricting access to public land.

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Originally Posted by ducknbass
Ps. Screw the biologist for not doing a deer draw. Some of the biggest deer in texas live on that corps land.



Yep, there's monsters there on the N side of the lake.

The feed store in McKinney just off Mcdonald St. has a pic of a monster buck killed a few years ago near the lake. And I do mean its a monster. I've seen some big ones but that buck has to be seen to be believed.

Amazing that deer that big are in Collin County of all places.

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Realize it's US Govt. Anything govt goes through a long process to get changed and financed. Sometimes years. Squeaky wheels get greased, but the timing has to be right.
What is involved in revising a lake master plan....
https://www.swf.usace.army.mil/Abou...ormation/Master-Plan-Updates/Lavon-Lake/
The last Lavon master plan
https://www.swf.usace.army.mil/Port...Lavon_Lake_Master_Plan_Final_30Sep16.pdf

If you live there, hunt or fish there, have a park or ramp you use often, then next time they do a new master plan, you should go to the meeting, write and email them with your requests. Submit comments to the draft. And rally help from forum members to submit comments as well. Landowners bordering Lavon for example, being squeaky wheels are why you have no deer hunt there. I have successfully caused changes to hunting rules on more than one hunting area in the past with well timed controlling authority letter/email campaigns.

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Originally Posted by Sniper John
Squeaky wheels get greased

I'm not an expert on the matter, but intuitively, I would guess this is the problem about the place being a dump, the Lavon surrounding communities just don't care.

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Originally Posted by Guy
Originally Posted by Sniper John
Squeaky wheels get greased

the Lavon surrounding communities just don't care.


Not entirely true. Just like a lot of lakes in Texas, there’s good and bad, but it’s going to get a lot more attention and visibility in the next 2-5 yrs.

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Originally Posted by 68A
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Originally Posted by Sniper John
Squeaky wheels get greased

the Lavon surrounding communities just don't care.


Not entirely true. Just like a lot of lakes in Texas, there’s good and bad, but it’s going to get a lot more attention and visibility in the next 2-5 yrs.


There's expensive new homes popping up all around Lavon and multi million dollar homes near the lake in Fairview. That could be a catalyst for change and improvements.

Comparing Lavon to Joe Pool is like comparing night and day. Kinda odd that a lake just a stones throw from South Dallas would have significantly nicer amenities and infrastructure than a lake near Fairview, Plano, Frisco and Allen.

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