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Re: Upgrading Hunting pants/Jacket- Need Advice [Re: txtrophy85] #7901214 07/15/20 12:16 PM
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Elmer always utilized red and clack checkered stuff - thinking it was more effective than most realize

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Elmer always utilized red and clack checkered stuff - thinking it was more effective than most realize


Deer can't see the red color spectrum, so yeah, pretty efficient.


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Re: Upgrading Hunting pants/Jacket- Need Advice [Re: txtrophy85] #7903442 07/17/20 01:17 AM
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It’s about breaking up the silhouette....and lots of patterns are effective at doing it.

Trust me camo certainly helps you out, pattern is less important as long as you have a pattern. Lots of animals have camo; snakes, ducks, axis deer, bobcats etc. to help them hide.

For general rifle hunting it’s less important. I’ve shot a lot of animals wearing a silver belly resistol hat, but I’m not gonna sit here and tell you that they didn’t see me, they certainly did, but it was too late for them


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Re: Upgrading Hunting pants/Jacket- Need Advice [Re: txtrophy85] #7904586 07/18/20 04:48 AM
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Animals have no camo to hide, they use a pattern for sending signals to either the same species or to predators for example. Most animals use other senses then eyesight.
Look at the most common thing in nature: Brown and Green. Wearing brown Pants and a Green top will make you for the most game not recognizable- except for your scent, noise, movement of course.

Best camo Pattern in the world: silence and odor control


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Got the first-lite gear in.

When with the catalyst jacket and pants and the corrugate pants.

Pants were sized accordingly but I sent them back for a size smaller as they were loose in the seat and thigh. Jacket fit pretty dang good, tighter in the wrist and forearm than expected but will be great with layers. Love the hood.


Material is much lighter than expected given the temp range they are rated for.

I’ll let you know how it performs in Colorado, Canada looks to be off this year


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I've always been a straight Academy Magellan hunter...always good enough and the Pintal Jacket and Bibs are quite nice for the price. But as I'm wanting to take some trips north, I'm slowly buying more Sitka level quality. Only have the under layers right now, and I bought their waders on sale at end of last season (have not tried yet) You will find something you like. The key to my success is having the right base layers, good rain/moisture preventer and good gloves and socks.(redhead socks are great)

Re: Upgrading Hunting pants/Jacket- Need Advice [Re: txtrophy85] #7957667 09/01/20 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by txtrophy85
Pants were sized accordingly but I sent them back for a size smaller as they were loose in the seat and thigh.


Do they make youth sizes?

Re: Upgrading Hunting pants/Jacket- Need Advice [Re: txtrophy85] #7957791 09/01/20 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by txtrophy85
Got the first-lite gear in.

When with the catalyst jacket and pants and the corrugate pants.

Pants were sized accordingly but I sent them back for a size smaller as they were loose in the seat and thigh. Jacket fit pretty dang good, tighter in the wrist and forearm than expected but will be great with layers. Love the hood.


Material is much lighter than expected given the temp range they are rated for.

I’ll let you know how it performs in Colorado, Canada looks to be off this year


Get the prana zion stretch. 10x more durable for 1/2 the cost


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Pants were sized accordingly but I sent them back for a size smaller as they were loose in the seat and thigh.


Do they make youth sizes?


No, they don’t.

They have a good size chart but as I’ve found it’s not exactly accurate even when going off their specs.


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Review time:

Spent 10 days in Colorado with my new gear.

Did not wear the catalyst pants but did wear the corrugate guide pants and gosh dang, those things are nice! Super comfy, worn with base layer it kept me warm in temps down to 30 degrees yes did not burn me up in temps up to 80’s.

On price, they would be a bit much for Texas whitetail hunting imo but if you want to spring for them you won’t be disappointed. IMO would be great digs for west Texas mule deer/aoudad style hunting.

I bought the Klamath grid fleece pullover as well. Designed as a mid layer, either stand alone or a central layer of the system. A bit baggy for my taste but if you wear a base layer and a t-shirt underneath you will need the room. This piece is quite as heck but I don’t care for the quarter zip....don’t know why it’s highly functional but it isn’t athletic cut and I don’t like it.

Catalyst jacket is awesome. Several mornings I had baselayer, shirt, quarter zip and jacket and I was toasty but did not feel bulky. Like all the clothing In their line it’s designed to be worn as a system with multiple layers so it will be a little roomy if used as a stand alone but with layers underneath it’s a perfect fit. Really liked the integrated hood, it looks goofy but works like a charm.


Another good purchase is the Kenetrek mountain guide boots. Once I broke them in they are extremely comfortable, tough as nails and a joy to wear. Again, would be very much overkill for Texas whitetail hunting but for western hunts it’s one I definitely recommend






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Thanks for the update. I cannot wait to try out my Catalyst stuff this fall. up


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Re: Upgrading Hunting pants/Jacket- Need Advice [Re: txtrophy85] #7982364 09/21/20 03:45 PM
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Not surprised you are happy with your purchases.
Many talk down the expensive and trendy camo out today but the materials are game changers.
Do you need it to sit a blind, no but western hunting is not sitting in a blind.
My Core4elemet works great down south and the patterns work equally well.
Carhartt and cotton are great for Texas hunting but for elk and mule deer you need quite and warm clothes. Cotton could lead to hypothermia and death.

It should last you many years if taken care of, just wait til you get it out in the whitetail woods. It will be quieter than any other camp you have.

Hope you had an enjoyable hunt.

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