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Re: 9/15/20 Draws [Re: Aggieduck] #7977328 09/17/20 03:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Ktexas14

So are they really putting your name in the hat 3375 times compare to my 8? That gives a 225x greater likelihood instead of like 7.5 times greater.

That is for sure dumb AF.


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It's not only making it more difficult for new people. I enter for literally damn near everything, so I have won in a lot of categories over the last 3 or 4 years and reset my preference points. I get they want to reward the long time customers. But is my $400+ in contributions every year not more valuable than the the guy that spent $60 to get 20 preference points just so he could draw the chap? I mean we also don't want to turn it into a pay to play system. That's what is driving a lot of people out of hunting. No system is perfect. But this definitely means applying for a few years is basically buying a preference point until your count is up. I'm happy to see a lot of the guys that do have 15+ points finally get the hunt they've been putting in after. Sucks for me, but it's great for them. This has been the fewest hunts I have ever won. I got Laguna Atascosa Archery deer, but they give out something like 700 permits, so it's a high chance draw anyway. I've averaged winning 3-5 hunts a year. This year has been quiet different.


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Originally Posted by Aggieduck
I agree Binary. They should have gone with a squaring of points cubing is just an insane advantage.

Ive been putting in for 10 years and have quite a few LP in some categories but 1 in most as I dont play the pay to hunt lease game. I use the TPWD draw hunts to get the oppertunity to hunt big game, As mentioned Binary and I pay hundreds of dollars to draw while the high level Lps may pay $10s of dollars. I agree they have dont the same with the public draw as with private lease. Pricing me out.


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I got drawn for antlerless / spike at Enchanted Rock in January

Nice, I want to hunt there one of these days. Not sure how good the hunting is but I've seen pics of the area and think it would be enjoyable.


I agree I'm not sure how good it will be. I've climbed the rock once. It will at least be pretty.


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Re: 9/15/20 Draws [Re: rolyat.nosaj] #7977358 09/17/20 04:12 AM
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My son and I were drawn for Balcones Canyonlands NWR. Finally landed my first draw after 4 years! It looks like it's hit or miss depending on what unit you're given. Anyone know when or how you find out what unit your assigned? If it's assigned blind or can you spot and stalk the area? Thanks for the info.

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I guess I got lucky. First year to put in and I was drawn.

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Originally Posted by erathar
I guess I got lucky. First year to put in and I was drawn.

which hunt?

Re: 9/15/20 Draws [Re: Lone_Wolf] #7977850 09/17/20 03:39 PM
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I guess I got lucky. First year to put in and I was drawn.

which hunt?



Ninney Stringfellow Doe/Spike

Better than nothing.

Re: 9/15/20 Draws [Re: erathar] #7977857 09/17/20 03:42 PM
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I guess I got lucky. First year to put in and I was drawn.

which hunt?



Ninney Stringfellow Doe/Spike

Better than nothing.


Nothing wrong with that. And it's not as though your points are going back to zero. You'll be where you started from. Good luck!


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Originally Posted by erathar
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I guess I got lucky. First year to put in and I was drawn.

which hunt?



Ninney Stringfellow Doe/Spike

Better than nothing.


I think you will like that place and the faculty. I went there for a squirrel hunt. I believe they recommend bringing an ATV and I agree 100% with that. It could be a long walk otherwise.

Re: 9/15/20 Draws [Re: sean_m_m] #7977965 09/17/20 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by sean_m_m
My son and I were drawn for Balcones Canyonlands NWR. Finally landed my first draw after 4 years! It looks like it's hit or miss depending on what unit you're given. Anyone know when or how you find out what unit your assigned? If it's assigned blind or can you spot and stalk the area? Thanks for the info.


My son and I hunted there 2 years ago. IIRC the NWR draws for the compartments in Early October. There is at least one compartment with blinds but you can spot and stalk in others. There was also a few days allowed for scouting and being from Austin, I took advantage of scouting one afternoon. It is beautiful terrain and we enjoyed ourselves even though we didn't see anything.

Re: 9/15/20 Draws [Re: rolyat.nosaj] #7978011 09/17/20 05:15 PM
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Man, I get why they went with cubing, but it really sucks for me. I have applied for almost everything the last 5 years or so and have always drawn a couple of tags. Usually the less desirable, but occasionally something cool. So, I don't have many points. I struck out this year.

I get that they want to reward the people that have applied forever, but it really discourages new hunters from getting in the game. I'm certainly not going to send them my usual $300 if the odds are stacked so high that I won't draw for 15 or 20 years.

Re: 9/15/20 Draws [Re: rolyat.nosaj] #7978042 09/17/20 05:36 PM
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Gun Deer - Either Sex 27 points, 27 years of applying out of my 57 years of life. FINALLY!
Going to the Powderhorn. I normally reserved those points for applying for the Chap only, but when I was younger I used to put in for the Sambar deer draw in Florida every year and never got drawn there, so that is partly why I switched over to the Powderhorn ranch hunt. What worked out great for this one is that I already am going to be in POC fishing for 10 days before the hunt.

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Congrats SniperJohn, glad it worked out for you.

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Congrats Sniper, IMO that is a better draw than the CHAP - the possibility of coming home with three trophies and doing some fishing sounds like a good time.

Re: 9/15/20 Draws [Re: Sniper John] #7978311 09/17/20 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Sniper John
Gun Deer - Either Sex 27 points, 27 years of applying out of my 57 years of life. FINALLY!
Going to the Powderhorn. I normally reserved those points for applying for the Chap only, but when I was younger I used to put in for the Sambar deer draw in Florida every year and never got drawn there, so that is partly why I switched over to the Powderhorn ranch hunt. What worked out great for this one is that I already am going to be in POC fishing for 10 days before the hunt.

Congrats man, hope you have a great hunt!

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Gun Deer - Either Sex 27 points, 27 years of applying out of my 57 years of life. FINALLY!
Going to the Powderhorn. I normally reserved those points for applying for the Chap only, but when I was younger I used to put in for the Sambar deer draw in Florida every year and never got drawn there, so that is partly why I switched over to the Powderhorn ranch hunt. What worked out great for this one is that I already am going to be in POC fishing for 10 days before the hunt.

Congrats man, hope you have a great hunt!


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Re: 9/15/20 Draws [Re: SherpaPhil] #7978334 09/17/20 09:39 PM
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Man, I get why they went with cubing, but it really sucks for me. I have applied for almost everything the last 5 years or so and have always drawn a couple of tags. Usually the less desirable, but occasionally something cool. So, I don't have many points. I struck out this year.

I get that they want to reward the people that have applied forever, but it really discourages new hunters from getting in the game. I'm certainly not going to send them my usual $300 if the odds are stacked so high that I won't draw for 15 or 20 years.


100% if they don't reverse the cubing nonsense my annual donation will drop from like $500 to about $39 ... basically one application per deer/exotic category to purchase an LP (I'll drop every other non-deer/exotic category). Assuming I don't decide to sit it out entirely. One way to get TPWD to understand how ridiculous the change to cubing was is to lower the $$$$$ they get...they'll notice REAL fast. Eventually someone with some sense will ask WTF are we rigging the lottery to favor long term users to this extreme for when it's at the cost of overall participation and $$$$$.

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Re: 9/15/20 Draws [Re: JB1316] #7978411 09/17/20 10:49 PM
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CRAP! I didn't get my doe permit for the SAM this year.

bah, me either. I have never won one of these USFS anterless tags...which is crazy since the odds of winning one are really high LOL.

That sucks guys. I've been really lucky to have drawn each of the last 3 years, and drew it again this year too.

I drew again this year too. 2 out of 3 now.


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Re: 9/15/20 Draws [Re: Sniper John] #7978500 09/18/20 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Sniper John
Gun Deer - Either Sex 27 points, 27 years of applying out of my 57 years of life. FINALLY!
Going to the Powderhorn. I normally reserved those points for applying for the Chap only, but when I was younger I used to put in for the Sambar deer draw in Florida every year and never got drawn there, so that is partly why I switched over to the Powderhorn ranch hunt. What worked out great for this one is that I already am going to be in POC fishing for 10 days before the hunt.

Congrats. That is awesome.

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I've only been at this 4 years now. So far I have drawn something every year.

17'-18' We drew the Laguna Atascosa Archery, Lower Rio Grande Archery and also Gus Engeling Feral Hog. Only attended the LANWR hunt. It was a tough hunt but game was seen. I missed on a doe.
18'-19' We drew the Laguna Atascosa Archery again. Again we attended and game was seen. I connected on a small 8 point but lost him.
19'-20' I drew Chaparral WMA Archery and the Laguna Atascosa Archery. I also drew Trinity River NWR Muzzleloader but let it pass.
20'-21' I drew Balcones Canyonlands NWR General Deer and my daughter drew the Chaparral WMA Youth A/S. This was her first year applying.

My point is, after learning of the point cubing change, I was really not expecting to draw anything. I especially wasn't expecting my daughter to seeing how she only had 1 point.
This will be my first rifle hunt so I am excited for that! 4 years in a row I have drawn something. So far it hasn't resulted in meat in the freezer and who knows if this year will either. Either way, we're excited to see what we can do!!!


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Fantastic. Glad that the perseverance worked out finally..

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I was lucky enough to get a Doe permit for the USFS. Nothing else though. Been a bunch of years without getting drawn for anything else. Thirteen points for Either sex or Antlerless/Spike. Well, there is always next year.

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Originally Posted by Sniper John
Gun Deer - Either Sex 27 points, 27 years of applying out of my 57 years of life. FINALLY!
Going to the Powderhorn. I normally reserved those points for applying for the Chap only, but when I was younger I used to put in for the Sambar deer draw in Florida every year and never got drawn there, so that is partly why I switched over to the Powderhorn ranch hunt. What worked out great for this one is that I already am going to be in POC fishing for 10 days before the hunt.



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I have 29 points in GDE. Gave up on Chap and switched to Gene Howe. Maybe this year.

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Drew a Doe permit national forest and my niece drew a Youth doe at the Gus Engling.


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Nothing for me so far this year, pending second draw for Elephant mountain

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