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Editor Fail #7975919 09/16/20 12:13 PM
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A press service produces this text, "The mayor of Lancaster, Pennsylvania on Monday called for an overhaul of how the city responds to mental health situations after a police officer shot and killed a 27-year-old man who ran at him, allegedly threatening him with a knife."

Then they post this photo. [Linked Image]

Trying to figure out that there "allegedly" part.

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Innocent until proven guilty, we still do that, right?

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Originally Posted by SherpaPhil
Innocent until proven guilty, we still do that, right?


I think the video and the officer pronounced him guilty.... 2cents


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Innocent until proven guilty, we still do that, right?


I think the video and the officer pronounced him guilty.... 2cents



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Justified self defense shoot by the police officer up
Guilty on the nut charging the Police Officer with a large knife trying to kill the officer! Pictures do not lie.

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Originally Posted by SherpaPhil
Innocent until proven guilty, we still do that, right?

You are a great example of the problems in this country.......I guess if it were you in the role of that police officer you would of let him stab you first just to make sure he is guilty of attempting to murder...... do you think or contemplate before you post? IMO the answer is no.......you are indoctrinated and live your life letting your emotions lead the way.....

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Originally Posted by SherpaPhil
Innocent until proven guilty, we still do that, right?

Its hard to prove them guilty when your dead. Or i guess we should just sacrifice a good cop and contributing member of society to every looney person with a weapon till they can be placed in a rehab facility for a few months and start back at square one.


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Originally Posted by SherpaPhil
Innocent until proven guilty, we still do that, right?



Nope ask the rioters. They found LEO immediately guilty and didn’t wait for the body cam footage or trial

Releasing the video is pretty decisive of self defense on officers part, and if a new article uses the video images it pretty telling of understanding of events.

But please tell us where chasing someone with a knife is an act of self defense


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Originally Posted by Pitchfork Predator
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Innocent until proven guilty, we still do that, right?

You are a great example of the problems in this country.......I guess if it were you in the role of that police officer you would of let him stab you first just to make sure he is guilty of attempting to murder...... do you think or contemplate before you post? IMO the answer is no.......you are indoctrinated and live your life letting your emotions lead the way.....


I'm sorry, I thought you had a basic understanding of how journalism works. For centuries in this country, news outlets have used the word "allegedly" to describe acts that did not result in a criminal conviction. In an effort to avoid libel suits, it is the standard across the country. This guy was never tried for his crimes, so the news source used the word, "allegedly".

Get down off your high your high horse. Not every statement you don't understand is an attempted commie attack on your way of life.

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Originally Posted by Stub
Justified self defense shoot by the police officer up
Guilty on the nut charging the Police Officer with a large knife trying to kill the officer! Pictures do not lie.

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100% Pretty good shooting too considering he was retreating AND a lunatic was charging at him with a knife.

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Originally Posted by SherpaPhil
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Innocent until proven guilty, we still do that, right?

You are a great example of the problems in this country.......I guess if it were you in the role of that police officer you would of let him stab you first just to make sure he is guilty of attempting to murder...... do you think or contemplate before you post? IMO the answer is no.......you are indoctrinated and live your life letting your emotions lead the way.....


I'm sorry, I thought you had a basic understanding of how journalism works. For centuries in this country, news outlets have used the word "allegedly" to describe acts that did not result in a criminal conviction. In an effort to avoid libel suits, it is the standard across the country. This guy was never tried for his crimes, so the news source used the word, "allegedly".

Get down off your high your high horse. Not every statement you don't understand is an attempted commie attack on your way of life.


Bullchit. They do this all the time now to downplay the criminal. There is a difference between 'allegedly embezzled $1,000,000' and a video showing a man running at you with a knife. He is not being charged with a crime, there is no need for 'allegedly'. You are allowed to give statements of fact in the press without fear of libel.


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Innocent until proven guilty, we still do that, right?

You are a great example of the problems in this country.......I guess if it were you in the role of that police officer you would of let him stab you first just to make sure he is guilty of attempting to murder...... do you think or contemplate before you post? IMO the answer is no.......you are indoctrinated and live your life letting your emotions lead the way.....


I'm sorry, I thought you had a basic understanding of how journalism works. For centuries in this country, news outlets have used the word "allegedly" to describe acts that did not result in a criminal conviction. In an effort to avoid libel suits, it is the standard across the country. This guy was never tried for his crimes, so the news source used the word, "allegedly".

Get down off your high your high horse. Not every statement you don't understand is an attempted commie attack on your way of life.

Nice try Phil.... at least own the fact that your reply had nothing to do with law speak.....you were inferring that our eyes might be lying to us and if we knew the full story that we will never know he could be innocent.....own it Phill

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No, I was implying that the journalist didn't want to get sued. You inferred some backhanded attack by a shadow enemy out to destroy america.

The guy obviously charged the cop with a knife and it was clearly a justified shooting. No doubt about it. I agree with you. Are you just so desperate for a fight that you really want to argue journalism linguistics?

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Originally Posted by SherpaPhil
Innocent until proven guilty, we still do that, right?



I'm certain, you apply this same standard, to the police...………
go away troll...………………….. boxing

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Originally Posted by SherpaPhil
No, I was implying that the journalist didn't want to get sued. You inferred some backhanded attack by a shadow enemy out to destroy america.

The guy obviously charged the cop with a knife and it was clearly a justified shooting. No doubt about it. I agree with you. Are you just so desperate for a fight that you really want to argue journalism linguistics?

This is an example of you running on emotions.....go back and read again.....you are confusing me with a different members post that you made this comment to in the reply you are referring to.....


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Originally Posted by Stub
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Guilty on the nut charging the Police Officer with a large knife trying to kill the that's xleaofficer! Pictures do not lie.

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Well then I think the idiot was only "allegedly" shot.

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It’s not an editing fail, it’s standard journalistic practice and absolves anyone, but especially media outlets, of civil liability. Yes, sometimes it’s ridiculous (like in this instance) but it shows objectivity and prevents being sued by the person arrested or accused of something.


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Originally Posted by Pitchfork Predator
Originally Posted by SherpaPhil
Innocent until proven guilty, we still do that, right?

You are a great example of the problems in this country.......I guess if it were you in the role of that police officer you would of let him stab you first just to make sure he is guilty of attempting to murder...... do you think or contemplate before you post? IMO the answer is no.......you are indoctrinated and live your life letting your emotions lead the way.....


If he had stabbed the officer, they still would’ve used allegedly. Or “accused of...” or something similar. It doesn’t mean the paper is giving an out to the guy with the knife.

My goodness. Some of y’all need to take a deep breath.


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Originally Posted by Duck_Hunter
It’s not an editing fail, it’s standard journalistic practice and absolves anyone, but especially media outlets, of civil liability. Yes, sometimes it’s ridiculous (like in this instance) but it shows objectivity and prevents being sued by the person arrested or accused of something.


Man chases LEO with Knife and LEO shots him in alleged self defense, doesn’t seem more fitting?


let’s be honest it’s click bait anyway, no real reporting anymore


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Innocent until proven guilty, we still do that, right?

You are a great example of the problems in this country.......I guess if it were you in the role of that police officer you would of let him stab you first just to make sure he is guilty of attempting to murder...... do you think or contemplate before you post? IMO the answer is no.......you are indoctrinated and live your life letting your emotions lead the way.....


If he had stabbed the officer, they still would’ve used allegedly. Or “accused of...” or something similar. It doesn’t mean the paper is giving an out to the guy with the knife.

My goodness. Some of y’all need to take a deep breath.

No offense but I don’t need you to spell it out for me.......the deep breath suggestion is a good one though.....


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