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Editor Fail
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09/16/20 12:13 PM
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Hudbone
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A press service produces this text, "The mayor of Lancaster, Pennsylvania on Monday called for an overhaul of how the city responds to mental health situations after a police officer shot and killed a 27-year-old man who ran at him, allegedly threatening him with a knife." Then they post this photo. Trying to figure out that there "allegedly" part.
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Re: Editor Fail
[Re: Hudbone]
#7975927
09/16/20 12:28 PM
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SherpaPhil
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Innocent until proven guilty, we still do that, right?
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Re: Editor Fail
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09/16/20 12:41 PM
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SnakeWrangler
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Innocent until proven guilty, we still do that, right? I think the video and the officer pronounced him guilty....
I believe in science and I’m an insufferable [censored] Actually, BBC is pretty damn good "You Cannot Simultaneously Be Politically Correct And Intellectually Honest!"
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Re: Editor Fail
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#7975950
09/16/20 12:43 PM
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bill oxner
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Re: Editor Fail
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#7975951
09/16/20 12:44 PM
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Superduty
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Innocent until proven guilty, we still do that, right? I think the video and the officer pronounced him guilty....
'It's Only Treason if You Lose."
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Re: Editor Fail
[Re: Hudbone]
#7975956
09/16/20 12:47 PM
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Stub
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Justified self defense shoot by the police officer Guilty on the nut charging the Police Officer with a large knife trying to kill the officer! Pictures do not lie.
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Re: Editor Fail
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#7975958
09/16/20 12:49 PM
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pdr55
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What we have here....is a failure to communicate....
If you`re running down my country, man, You`re walking on the fighting side of me. (Merle)
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Re: Editor Fail
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#7975967
09/16/20 01:03 PM
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Pitchfork Predator
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Innocent until proven guilty, we still do that, right? You are a great example of the problems in this country.......I guess if it were you in the role of that police officer you would of let him stab you first just to make sure he is guilty of attempting to murder...... do you think or contemplate before you post? IMO the answer is no.......you are indoctrinated and live your life letting your emotions lead the way.....
Last edited by Pitchfork Predator; 09/16/20 01:04 PM.
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Re: Editor Fail
[Re: Hudbone]
#7975970
09/16/20 01:07 PM
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BOBO the Clown
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This one has excellent potential!!!!!
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Re: Editor Fail
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#7975971
09/16/20 01:07 PM
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bigbob_ftw
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They should have sent some social workers. yeah, that would fix it.
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Re: Editor Fail
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#7975983
09/16/20 01:21 PM
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redchevy
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Innocent until proven guilty, we still do that, right? Its hard to prove them guilty when your dead. Or i guess we should just sacrifice a good cop and contributing member of society to every looney person with a weapon till they can be placed in a rehab facility for a few months and start back at square one.
It's hell eatin em live
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Re: Editor Fail
[Re: SherpaPhil]
#7975993
09/16/20 01:29 PM
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BOBO the Clown
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Innocent until proven guilty, we still do that, right? Nope ask the rioters. They found LEO immediately guilty and didn’t wait for the body cam footage or trial Releasing the video is pretty decisive of self defense on officers part, and if a new article uses the video images it pretty telling of understanding of events. But please tell us where chasing someone with a knife is an act of self defense
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Re: Editor Fail
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#7975994
09/16/20 01:30 PM
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SherpaPhil
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Innocent until proven guilty, we still do that, right? You are a great example of the problems in this country.......I guess if it were you in the role of that police officer you would of let him stab you first just to make sure he is guilty of attempting to murder...... do you think or contemplate before you post? IMO the answer is no.......you are indoctrinated and live your life letting your emotions lead the way..... I'm sorry, I thought you had a basic understanding of how journalism works. For centuries in this country, news outlets have used the word "allegedly" to describe acts that did not result in a criminal conviction. In an effort to avoid libel suits, it is the standard across the country. This guy was never tried for his crimes, so the news source used the word, "allegedly". Get down off your high your high horse. Not every statement you don't understand is an attempted commie attack on your way of life.
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Re: Editor Fail
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#7976001
09/16/20 01:39 PM
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Black02z28
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Justified self defense shoot by the police officer Guilty on the nut charging the Police Officer with a large knife trying to kill the officer! Pictures do not lie. 100% Pretty good shooting too considering he was retreating AND a lunatic was charging at him with a knife.
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Re: Editor Fail
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#7976010
09/16/20 01:47 PM
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Innocent until proven guilty, we still do that, right? You are a great example of the problems in this country.......I guess if it were you in the role of that police officer you would of let him stab you first just to make sure he is guilty of attempting to murder...... do you think or contemplate before you post? IMO the answer is no.......you are indoctrinated and live your life letting your emotions lead the way..... I'm sorry, I thought you had a basic understanding of how journalism works. For centuries in this country, news outlets have used the word "allegedly" to describe acts that did not result in a criminal conviction. In an effort to avoid libel suits, it is the standard across the country. This guy was never tried for his crimes, so the news source used the word, "allegedly". Get down off your high your high horse. Not every statement you don't understand is an attempted commie attack on your way of life. Bullchit. They do this all the time now to downplay the criminal. There is a difference between 'allegedly embezzled $1,000,000' and a video showing a man running at you with a knife. He is not being charged with a crime, there is no need for 'allegedly'. You are allowed to give statements of fact in the press without fear of libel.
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Re: Editor Fail
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09/16/20 02:24 PM
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Pitchfork Predator
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Innocent until proven guilty, we still do that, right? You are a great example of the problems in this country.......I guess if it were you in the role of that police officer you would of let him stab you first just to make sure he is guilty of attempting to murder...... do you think or contemplate before you post? IMO the answer is no.......you are indoctrinated and live your life letting your emotions lead the way..... I'm sorry, I thought you had a basic understanding of how journalism works. For centuries in this country, news outlets have used the word "allegedly" to describe acts that did not result in a criminal conviction. In an effort to avoid libel suits, it is the standard across the country. This guy was never tried for his crimes, so the news source used the word, "allegedly". Get down off your high your high horse. Not every statement you don't understand is an attempted commie attack on your way of life. Nice try Phil.... at least own the fact that your reply had nothing to do with law speak.....you were inferring that our eyes might be lying to us and if we knew the full story that we will never know he could be innocent.....own it Phill
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Re: Editor Fail
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#7976075
09/16/20 02:35 PM
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SherpaPhil
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No, I was implying that the journalist didn't want to get sued. You inferred some backhanded attack by a shadow enemy out to destroy america.
The guy obviously charged the cop with a knife and it was clearly a justified shooting. No doubt about it. I agree with you. Are you just so desperate for a fight that you really want to argue journalism linguistics?
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Re: Editor Fail
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#7976090
09/16/20 02:41 PM
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Sailor
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Innocent until proven guilty, we still do that, right? I'm certain, you apply this same standard, to the police...……… go away troll...…………………..
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Re: Editor Fail
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09/16/20 02:43 PM
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No, I was implying that the journalist didn't want to get sued. You inferred some backhanded attack by a shadow enemy out to destroy america.
The guy obviously charged the cop with a knife and it was clearly a justified shooting. No doubt about it. I agree with you. Are you just so desperate for a fight that you really want to argue journalism linguistics? This is an example of you running on emotions.....go back and read again.....you are confusing me with a different members post that you made this comment to in the reply you are referring to.....
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Re: Editor Fail
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#7976104
09/16/20 02:45 PM
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Justified self defense shoot by the police officer Guilty on the nut charging the Police Officer with a large knife trying to kill the that's xleaofficer! Pictures do not lie. That's clearly a "mostly dull knife"
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Re: Editor Fail
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#7976109
09/16/20 02:47 PM
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Well then I think the idiot was only "allegedly" shot.
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Re: Editor Fail
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09/16/20 03:02 PM
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Duck_Hunter
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It’s not an editing fail, it’s standard journalistic practice and absolves anyone, but especially media outlets, of civil liability. Yes, sometimes it’s ridiculous (like in this instance) but it shows objectivity and prevents being sued by the person arrested or accused of something.
I just turned it on . I was looking bird dogs in the butt this morning.
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Re: Editor Fail
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09/16/20 03:05 PM
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Duck_Hunter
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Innocent until proven guilty, we still do that, right? You are a great example of the problems in this country.......I guess if it were you in the role of that police officer you would of let him stab you first just to make sure he is guilty of attempting to murder...... do you think or contemplate before you post? IMO the answer is no.......you are indoctrinated and live your life letting your emotions lead the way..... If he had stabbed the officer, they still would’ve used allegedly. Or “accused of...” or something similar. It doesn’t mean the paper is giving an out to the guy with the knife. My goodness. Some of y’all need to take a deep breath.
I just turned it on . I was looking bird dogs in the butt this morning.
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Re: Editor Fail
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09/16/20 03:06 PM
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BOBO the Clown
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It’s not an editing fail, it’s standard journalistic practice and absolves anyone, but especially media outlets, of civil liability. Yes, sometimes it’s ridiculous (like in this instance) but it shows objectivity and prevents being sued by the person arrested or accused of something. Man chases LEO with Knife and LEO shots him in alleged self defense, doesn’t seem more fitting? let’s be honest it’s click bait anyway, no real reporting anymore
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Re: Editor Fail
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#7976152
09/16/20 03:12 PM
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Pitchfork Predator
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Innocent until proven guilty, we still do that, right? You are a great example of the problems in this country.......I guess if it were you in the role of that police officer you would of let him stab you first just to make sure he is guilty of attempting to murder...... do you think or contemplate before you post? IMO the answer is no.......you are indoctrinated and live your life letting your emotions lead the way..... If he had stabbed the officer, they still would’ve used allegedly. Or “accused of...” or something similar. It doesn’t mean the paper is giving an out to the guy with the knife. My goodness. Some of y’all need to take a deep breath. No offense but I don’t need you to spell it out for me.......the deep breath suggestion is a good one though.....
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