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Re: 12 gauge or 20 gauge? [Re: BlakeStone] #7972207 09/13/20 08:20 PM
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Lots of tried and true turkey hunters moving to lower gauge shotguns. I believe this is in large part due to the advancement in shotgun
ammo. I know that I like to use both a 20 gauge and .410 shotgun but only with Hevishot shotgun ammunition.

Re: 12 gauge or 20 gauge? [Re: booskay] #7972343 09/13/20 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by booskay
jstock ------ if you need a scope for a 20 yrd shot with a shotgun you need to practice more-------- for the avg or below avg hunter I would say it is basically impossible to miss a bird standing still at 20 yds. Let me guess, you shoot 4 boxes of shells on a duck hunt trying to get your limit of 6 birds ?? I wont let my son bring more than 10 shells to kill 6 ducks --shooting o/u 20 ga. ------- and no, he is not allowed to shoot them on the water.



If I don't shoot 3 or 4 boxes to get a limit I feel cheated...


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Re: 12 gauge or 20 gauge? [Re: BlakeStone] #7976520 09/16/20 06:20 PM
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Having hunted turkeys for many, many years including our Rio and Eastern and traveling to collect a "grand slam" , I have done it all with a 20 gauge black powder shotgun. This varied from a single barrel flintlock to a double barrel (SxS) percussion gun. First, I pattern the shotgun with whatever I want to shoot. In these guns its been lead shot of #5 or #6 size. I have used from 6-10 BB's (the copper BB gun kind) on top of the smaller shot if it patterned ok. These loads have always been 7/8 to 1-ounce but never more. I have no idea of the actual velocity but most data shows from 1100-1275 fps depending on powder and barrel length. The guns with choke are IC/Mod and the rest essentially have none. Second, I set a limit of range to where the pattern becomes too loose (or less dense) that it could cause a miss or wound. Typically this is 35-yards max but one gun is just 25-yards. Why all the talk about a muzzleloader? I have taken turkeys every year with loads that mimic a standard 20-guage 2.5 or 2.75-inch shell. I use good camo, good decoys and good calling techniques and have gotten multiple birds of various turkey sub-species for years. You will be totally fine with a standard 20-guage if you follow my #1) and #2) and use similar good gear and technique.

In reference to the .410, my son's used a single shot from the time they could shoot it "accurately" until they felt they outgrew it. Same deal, pattern and figure out the range and then take good measure with gear and technique. Wait for the bird to get within your threshold. My oldest boys .410 had a good enough pattern for several BB's in the head and neck at 30-yards with a standard 3-inch shell with lead shot. The youngers gun was a little different and he was limited to 25-yards with a different ammo but still conventional load.

You don't have to shoot turkeys the minute they come into view. If things go right, they will come to you. The closer they are the better odds of a kill. I will also recommend the HECS suit. Since using HECS I have shot several birds at 10-yards or less while sitting on the ground in the open.

Good luck!

Re: 12 gauge or 20 gauge? [Re: BlakeStone] #7976902 09/16/20 10:40 PM
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3 and 1/2 inch 12 gauge for sure..you can do it with a 20 gauge and theyre lighter to carry but i like the extra punch and range i get with a 3 and 1/2. Also look into TSS shells.

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