texashuntingforum.com logo
Main Menu
Advertisement
Affiliates
Advertisement
Newest Members
ThomasD77, BWB1970, Skindog1, CowboyTX, slickster
72033 Registered Users
Top Posters(All Time)
dogcatcher 110,792
bill oxner 91,416
SnakeWrangler 65,506
stxranchman 60,296
Gravytrain 46,950
RKHarm24 44,585
rifleman 44,461
Stub 43,844
Forum Statistics
Forums46
Topics537,699
Posts9,727,899
Members87,033
Most Online25,604
Feb 12th, 2024
Print Thread
extension cord needed for 220V compressor? #7967614 09/09/20 11:57 PM
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 9,763
T
Tin Head Offline OP
THF Trophy Hunter
OP Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
T
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 9,763
I need , or want to get a extension cord for a 220v compressor at home. I have a YUGE cord now, its like a inch or more in diameter . Looking for something with a smaller diameter with out burning the motor up. I only need it to go 25 and really it will be a little less than that.

240v
60hz
15 AMPS
3450 rpm
ph 01
output 2.98 kw
LR AMPS 93

Im looking at this one.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Heavy-Duty-25FT-50-Amp-10-3-Welder-Extension-Cord-MIG-TIG-Plasma-220-Volt/164355076675?hash=item2644537243:g:8ncAAOSwERtfR1yh


[Linked Image]
Re: extension cord needed for 220V compressor? [Re: Tin Head] #7967664 09/10/20 12:25 AM
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 91,416
bill oxner Offline
THF Celebrity
Offline
THF Celebrity
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 91,416
Good luck. Haven't used one lately. Most things are now cordless.


Quail hunting is like walking into, and out of a beautiful painting all day long. Gene Hill


[Linked Image]




Re: extension cord needed for 220V compressor? [Re: bill oxner] #7967754 09/10/20 12:53 AM
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 15,950
J
Jimbo1 Offline
THF Celebrity
Offline
THF Celebrity
J
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 15,950
Originally Posted by bill oxner
Good luck. Haven't used one lately. Most things are now cordless.

That was helpful!


FJB - Lets Go Brandon
BBB - Bring Back Better
Awake - Not Woke!
Re: extension cord needed for 220V compressor? [Re: Tin Head] #7967777 09/10/20 01:02 AM
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 110,792
dogcatcher Offline
THF Celebrity
Offline
THF Celebrity
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 110,792
The one you looked at is reasonable a 50 foot roll of 10/3 is $91 at home depot, or almost $2 a foot.


Combat Infantryman, the ultimate hunter where the prey shoots back.
_____________"Illegitimus non carborundum est"_______________

[Linked Image]
Re: extension cord needed for 220V compressor? [Re: Tin Head] #7967930 09/10/20 02:42 AM
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 69,145
N
NORML as can be Offline
^^Cut the Cord^^
Offline
^^Cut the Cord^^
N
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 69,145
10/2 romax and hard wire it.


(R-TX) .-- " TCNN CURL CRLB VFF VRNO AYR SNDL CGC TLRY MSOS "

_=====___=________==-



Re: extension cord needed for 220V compressor? [Re: Tin Head] #7967969 09/10/20 03:15 AM
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 5,828
L
Lazyjack Online Content
THF Trophy Hunter
Online Content
THF Trophy Hunter
L
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 5,828
12/3 is really all should need. Biggest draw back with the 50 amp selected is the male and female ends. It probably will not match your compressor cord. What does you compressor female end look like, and the wall plug.

The weakest point on factory cords are the ends. I would probably build one. 12/3 cord with heavy duty orange ends. Usually available at box stores.

If you rather a store bought, look for a 20 amp 240 volt.cord. That will probably match your ends.

Also, keep as short as practical. A big mistake, often consumer buys a too long heavy cord, then coil it up. If you have 15 feet or so tightly coiled up on floor or wall, recatance due to current flow will cause voltage drop.


If the 2nd amendment was written just to include guns for hunting, why is there not an amendment to protect fishing poles?
Re: extension cord needed for 220V compressor? [Re: Tin Head] #7967980 09/10/20 03:24 AM
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 21,373
B
Bullfrog Offline
THF Celebrity
Offline
THF Celebrity
B
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 21,373
Lazyjack, you saying it’s better off strung out vs coiled up? or delete the length of unneeded wire for resistance purposes? Trying to wrap my head around that new word.


[Linked Image]
Originally Posted by machinist
Man if I knew what Oxner knows I could throw away what I know
Re: extension cord needed for 220V compressor? [Re: bill oxner] #7968052 09/10/20 05:24 AM
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 28,000
skinnerback Online Content
THF Celebrity Chef
Online Content
THF Celebrity Chef
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 28,000
Originally Posted by bill oxner
Good luck. Haven't used one lately. Most things are now cordless.



wtf

Re: extension cord needed for 220V compressor? [Re: Bullfrog] #7968054 09/10/20 05:56 AM
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 28,000
skinnerback Online Content
THF Celebrity Chef
Online Content
THF Celebrity Chef
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 28,000
Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Lazyjack, you saying it’s better off strung out vs coiled up? or delete the length of unneeded wire for resistance purposes? Trying to wrap my head around that new word.



Lazyjack made some good points. 12/3 or 10/3 for a compressor will work fine. I think what Mr Lazyjack is trying to say is that on a higher amperage service especially, rolled up excess wire yes can cause some voltage drop but not that big of a problem with AC circuits as long as it's not too long (DC is different). Cut your cord at least close to length, and you will have better service.

The problem with higher amperage circuits with excess wire coiled up tight together is that it starts to make a transformer under load and can start a fire. I have personally witnessed a 480v temporary feeder to a Motor Control Center catch fire. The "company" that installed that cable had close to 100' of excess 3c 4/0 cable that they coiled up nice & pretty on the deck. Once we started turning heaters on & running motors - loading the gear that roll of cable started smoking and burst into flames as I was walking by. Caught the feeder breaker on fire, smoked out the whole building, and ended up shutting down the whole platform causing everyone to evacuate. Some dipshit roughneck grabbed a water hose and was going to extinguish the fire. Thank God I saw him & stopped him. Anyway..... light weight service not a big deal. Heavier service pay more attention to installation.

Re: extension cord needed for 220V compressor? [Re: Jimbo1] #7968177 09/10/20 12:39 PM
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,457
T
TonyWornick Offline
Pro Tracker
Offline
Pro Tracker
T
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,457
Originally Posted by Jimbo1
Originally Posted by bill oxner
Good luck. Haven't used one lately. Most things are now cordless.

That was helpful!


That's with 98% of his posts.

Re: extension cord needed for 220V compressor? [Re: Bullfrog] #7968427 09/10/20 03:14 PM
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 5,828
L
Lazyjack Online Content
THF Trophy Hunter
Online Content
THF Trophy Hunter
L
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 5,828
Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Lazyjack, you saying it’s better off strung out vs coiled up? or delete the length of unneeded wire for resistance purposes? Trying to wrap my head around that new word.



Not resistance, reactance. In a coil of wire with AC current, the induced magnetic fields will act like a choke. It become more prevolent if cord is wadded into a pile.

Resistance is relative to DC or pure resistive loads such as a heater or incandescent lamp.
Reactance comes in play in motor windings and old school electronics and coils for relays.

If you measure motor windings with a meter, you are appling a meter battery power, usualy 9 VDC. In case you are measuing resistance. Using Ohms Law, expected current flow is extremly high.

Well, actually, as I sure know, starting amperage is Locked Rotor from 2/3 second. Infact it happens so most meters will not record peak. After rotor beings to spin, reactance causes the amperage to fall. Now I am speaking of AC motors, Not DC.


If the 2nd amendment was written just to include guns for hunting, why is there not an amendment to protect fishing poles?
Re: extension cord needed for 220V compressor? [Re: Lazyjack] #7968436 09/10/20 03:22 PM
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 29,114
T
TXHOGSLAYER Offline
THF Celebrity
Offline
THF Celebrity
T
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 29,114
Originally Posted by Lazyjack
Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Lazyjack, you saying it’s better off strung out vs coiled up? or delete the length of unneeded wire for resistance purposes? Trying to wrap my head around that new word.



Not resistance, reactance. In a coil of wire with AC current, the induced magnetic fields will act like a choke. It become more prevolent if cord is wadded into a pile.

Resistance is relative to DC or pure resistive loads such as a heater or incandescent lamp.
Reactance comes in play in motor windings and old school electronics and coils for relays.

If you measure motor windings with a meter, you are appling a meter battery power, usualy 9 VDC. In case you are measuing resistance. Using Ohms Law, expected current flow is extremly high.

Well, actually, as I sure know, starting amperage is Locked Rotor from 2/3 second. Infact it happens so most meters will not record peak. After rotor beings to spin, reactance causes the amperage to fall. Now I am speaking of AC motors, Not DC.




Learned something new today. Thanks.




LETS GO BRANDON
Re: extension cord needed for 220V compressor? [Re: skinnerback] #7968445 09/10/20 03:28 PM
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 5,828
L
Lazyjack Online Content
THF Trophy Hunter
Online Content
THF Trophy Hunter
L
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 5,828
Originally Posted by skinnerback
Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Lazyjack, you saying it’s better off strung out vs coiled up? or delete the length of unneeded wire for resistance purposes? Trying to wrap my head around that new word.



Lazyjack made some good points. 12/3 or 10/3 for a compressor will work fine. I think what Mr Lazyjack is trying to say is that on a higher amperage service especially, rolled up excess wire yes can cause some voltage drop but not that big of a problem with AC circuits as long as it's not too long (DC is different). Cut your cord at least close to length, and you will have better service.

The problem with higher amperage circuits with excess wire coiled up tight together is that it starts to make a transformer under load and can start a fire. I have personally witnessed a 480v temporary feeder to a Motor Control Center catch fire. The "company" that installed that cable had close to 100' of excess 3c 4/0 cable that they coiled up nice & pretty on the deck. Once we started turning heaters on & running motors - loading the gear that roll of cable started smoking and burst into flames as I was walking by. Caught the feeder breaker on fire, smoked out the whole building, and ended up shutting down the whole platform causing everyone to evacuate. Some dipshit roughneck grabbed a water hose and was going to extinguish the fire. Thank God I saw him & stopped him. Anyway..... light weight service not a big deal. Heavier service pay more attention to installation.


Very good post. And an excellent example of reactance. A 10 amp load on 100 feet of 16/3 could have same results. Heavy is relative, like hot or cold, short or tall.

In this case, the coiled excess cord causes motor starting issues due high starting amperage. Of course, high starting amperage is relative to running amperage.


If the 2nd amendment was written just to include guns for hunting, why is there not an amendment to protect fishing poles?
Re: extension cord needed for 220V compressor? [Re: Tin Head] #7968482 09/10/20 03:50 PM
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 5,828
L
Lazyjack Online Content
THF Trophy Hunter
Online Content
THF Trophy Hunter
L
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 5,828
Here is good demo. This is low AC voltage, but physics are the same and results simular with high volages provided frequency remains 60 HZ.



If the 2nd amendment was written just to include guns for hunting, why is there not an amendment to protect fishing poles?
Re: extension cord needed for 220V compressor? [Re: Tin Head] #7968487 09/10/20 03:55 PM
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 5,828
L
Lazyjack Online Content
THF Trophy Hunter
Online Content
THF Trophy Hunter
L
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 5,828
I also just reread my original post. I said 15 feet I ment 50 feet. Brain cramp. Guess I was channelling a presidential candidate.


If the 2nd amendment was written just to include guns for hunting, why is there not an amendment to protect fishing poles?
Re: extension cord needed for 220V compressor? [Re: Lazyjack] #7968771 09/10/20 07:12 PM
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 28,000
skinnerback Online Content
THF Celebrity Chef
Online Content
THF Celebrity Chef
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 28,000
Originally Posted by Lazyjack
I also just reread my original post. I said 15 feet I ment 50 feet. Brain cramp. Guess I was channelling a presidential candidate.



roflmao up

Re: extension cord needed for 220V compressor? [Re: TXHOGSLAYER] #7969050 09/10/20 11:36 PM
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 9,763
T
Tin Head Offline OP
THF Trophy Hunter
OP Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
T
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 9,763
Originally Posted by TXHOGSLAYER
Originally Posted by Lazyjack
Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Lazyjack, you saying it’s better off strung out vs coiled up? or delete the length of unneeded wire for resistance purposes? Trying to wrap my head around that new word.



Not resistance, reactance. In a coil of wire with AC current, the induced magnetic fields will act like a choke. It become more prevolent if cord is wadded into a pile.

Resistance is relative to DC or pure resistive loads such as a heater or incandescent lamp.
Reactance comes in play in motor windings and old school electronics and coils for relays.

If you measure motor windings with a meter, you are appling a meter battery power, usualy 9 VDC. In case you are measuing resistance. Using Ohms Law, expected current flow is extremly high.

Well, actually, as I sure know, starting amperage is Locked Rotor from 2/3 second. Infact it happens so most meters will not record peak. After rotor beings to spin, reactance causes the amperage to fall. Now I am speaking of AC motors, Not DC.




Learned something new today. Thanks.

As did I , thanks for the help guys


[Linked Image]
Re: extension cord needed for 220V compressor? [Re: Tin Head] #7975988 09/16/20 01:25 PM
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 6,105
P
pdr55 Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
P
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 6,105
I would personally leave the compressor close to the power source and get a longer air hose.


If you`re running down my country, man,
You`re walking on the fighting side of me. (Merle)
Re: extension cord needed for 220V compressor? [Re: Tin Head] #7980597 09/19/20 10:09 PM
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 21,373
B
Bullfrog Offline
THF Celebrity
Offline
THF Celebrity
B
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 21,373
One thing mentioned in this thread that almost everyone could benefit from is Lazyjack said “ohms law”

Good stuff


[Linked Image]
Originally Posted by machinist
Man if I knew what Oxner knows I could throw away what I know
Re: extension cord needed for 220V compressor? [Re: Tin Head] #7980620 09/19/20 10:44 PM
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 22,630
Cast Offline
THF Celebrity
Offline
THF Celebrity
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 22,630
You guys kill me. The OP asks about a simple extension cord. Y’all tell him how to built the ISS. Y’all have talked conductor resistance, inductive reactance, current and heat. Y’all left out capacitance, those wires run side you side you know. Oh! Let’s not forget solar interference and solar flares.

Did anybody answer his question?

He just needs recommendations for a 50’ extension cord for his compressor.

I recommend 10/3 copper rated for outdoor use in a bright color and appropriate connectors. I find it’s usually cheaper to buy a 10/3x50’ extension cord and replace the ends if necessary.


Cast

[Linked Image]

I have a short attention spa
Re: extension cord needed for 220V compressor? [Re: Tin Head] #7980628 09/19/20 10:53 PM
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 91,416
bill oxner Offline
THF Celebrity
Offline
THF Celebrity
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 91,416
I also use mine for my cheep air compressor.


Quail hunting is like walking into, and out of a beautiful painting all day long. Gene Hill


[Linked Image]




Re: extension cord needed for 220V compressor? [Re: pdr55] #7980697 09/20/20 12:27 AM
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 11,902
S
Simple Searcher Offline
THF Celebrity
Offline
THF Celebrity
S
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 11,902
Originally Posted by pdr55
I would personally leave the compressor close to the power source and get a longer air hose.

Best advice on this thread.


[Linked Image]

"Man is still a hunter, still a simple searcher after meat..." Robert C. Ruark
Re: extension cord needed for 220V compressor? [Re: Tin Head] #8056513 11/19/20 04:36 PM
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 39,524
R
redchevy Offline
THF Celebrity
Offline
THF Celebrity
R
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 39,524
Reading this post reminds me of why my uncle (who is an electrician) told me i know just enough about electricity to be dangerous! lol

Not knowing the complete story or needs, i assume this is just to run it in a shop where the power service isnt right there. I would run some romex


It's hell eatin em live
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread

© 2004-2024 OUTDOOR SITES NETWORK all rights reserved USA and Worldwide
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3