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Gut Shot #7908344 07/21/20 09:26 PM
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Watching hunting shows lately and keep hearing how great a shot it was; so much so they can barely contain their excitement. Then they show the shot and the Deer are gut shot! Growing up, I got my Butt Chewed for that( dead_horse). Most of those are "Stick & String" hunters with the fancy training wheels; is this acceptable now days? confused2

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This is the exact reason I can't watch the majority of hunting shows. A good shot is not in the guts. There's only a select few that I'll watch and they'll own up if it's a bad shot.

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I watched a guy shoot a pronghorn at 86 yds, hit it in the ham. You could tell they had to leave it for hours for it to bleed out, and then they start high-fiving and such. The whole time I'm thinking 'What an unethical shot'.


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I saw a show yesterday, guy had deer at feeder getting extra footage, deer started walking away and he couldn't get it to stop, shot it while still walking and hit in back ham. Deer ran off off course. went watched footage back at nice lodge/dinner, next morning went out and found deer and then started saying how good of shot it was and praising the Muzzy Broadhead and that his good shot caused arrow to angle in at back quarter and then turn forward and exit out rib cage. What a joke!

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In some ways, it's a good thing the local, dying, land-line/cable co-op took the outdoor channels off my basic package in a pitiful attempt to make more money. I got sick of watching that buffoonery. And don't get me started about poor pointed stick guys. (Some very close friends hunt archery and I am NOT talking about them. grin)


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Add to that the backing out and leaving them till morning. For me to let lay overnight there better be snow on the ground. I’d rather risk pushing/loosing one the night of the shot than find it 25 yards into the brush the next morning. I don’t believe I’ve ever hunted a time that an animal could have sat over night and still been edible.


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Add to that the backing out and leaving them till morning. For me to let lay overnight there better be snow on the ground. I’d rather risk pushing/loosing one the night of the shot than find it 25 yards into the brush the next morning. I don’t believe I’ve ever hunted a time that an animal could have sat over night and still been edible.


I'm not eating an animal left over night and I'm not leaving one overnight.


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If you leave it out overnight in most places I have hunted, the coyotes would have it for breakfast before I got there.


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Originally Posted by HWY_MAN
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Add to that the backing out and leaving them till morning. For me to let lay overnight there better be snow on the ground. I’d rather risk pushing/loosing one the night of the shot than find it 25 yards into the brush the next morning. I don’t believe I’ve ever hunted a time that an animal could have sat over night and still been edible.


I'm not eating an animal left over night and I'm not leaving one overnight.


Yeah, they’re hunting South Texas in shirt-sleeves and leaving them overnight. Grinds my gears.


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What I have learned in my time hunting with a bow and arrow:


The arrow does not always go where it appears to go. The lung and liver on a deer goes a lot further back than most people realize. I’ve hit some deer pretty far back thinking to myself “ damn that looked like a bad shot” only to find the deer piled up in 40 yards with no guts behind hit.

A well placed arrow is as quick of a kill as a rifle. I’ve seen more deer shot with a rifle than I can count, and a arrow thru the lungs/heart is as quick a kill as a bullet thru the lungs/heart. A good expandable broadness will cause massive damage...most leave a 1 3/4”- 2” entrance and exit hole. A rage will make a slice like you can’t imagine. I have no issues shooting anything short of a moose or grizzly with my bow.


As far as hunting shows go....I haven’t been impressed with one in a long time. Some are good and entertaining but that’s the exception not the rule, and I certainly wouldn’t form any opinions based off of what I saw happen on tv


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Originally Posted by QuitShootinYoungBucks
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Add to that the backing out and leaving them till morning. For me to let lay overnight there better be snow on the ground. I’d rather risk pushing/loosing one the night of the shot than find it 25 yards into the brush the next morning. I don’t believe I’ve ever hunted a time that an animal could have sat over night and still been edible.


I'm not eating an animal left over night and I'm not leaving one overnight.


Yeah, they’re hunting South Texas in shirt-sleeves and leaving them overnight. Grinds my gears.


You can leave an animal overnight in most cases and it will be fine unless it’s god awful hot out. Seen it firsthand

You shank a deer at last light in 50 degree weather and find it in the morning your gonna be good to go. Something big like an elk or moose maybe a different story. I saw an elk spoil in September here in Texas that was shot and recovered an hour later


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Originally Posted by txtrophy85
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Add to that the backing out and leaving them till morning. For me to let lay overnight there better be snow on the ground. I’d rather risk pushing/loosing one the night of the shot than find it 25 yards into the brush the next morning. I don’t believe I’ve ever hunted a time that an animal could have sat over night and still been edible.


I'm not eating an animal left over night and I'm not leaving one overnight.


Yeah, they’re hunting South Texas in shirt-sleeves and leaving them overnight. Grinds my gears.


You can leave an animal overnight in most cases and it will be fine unless it’s god awful hot out. Seen it firsthand

You shank a deer at last light in 50 degree weather and find it in the morning your gonna be good to go. Something big like an elk or moose maybe a different story. I saw an elk spoil in September here in Texas that was shot and recovered an hour later


The South TX hunt I’m referencing they claimed the high was 87 degrees. They hunted the next morning and THEN looked for the deer, THEN had to call a dog. Likely found the deer over 20 hours later.


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Yeah I would have passed on eating that one.


But it’s wise if your not sure of the hit, to back out and find it the next morning.

Rather find it the next morning 40 yards in than push it and never find it at all


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Aw look, another anti bow hunting thread.

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Can' believe I would ever need to make decision about eating something left overnight.

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Originally Posted by Always ready 2 hunt
I saw a show yesterday, guy had deer at feeder getting extra footage, deer started walking away and he couldn't get it to stop, shot it while still walking and hit in back ham. Deer ran off off course. went watched footage back at nice lodge/dinner, next morning went out and found deer and then started saying how good of shot it was and praising the Muzzy Broadhead and that his good shot caused arrow to angle in at back quarter and then turn forward and exit out rib cage. What a joke!


I saw this show and it made me mad as heck . It was an unethical and terrible shot .


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I think hunting shows make it seem like leaving a deer overnight is really common place. It’s really not, kinda a last resort kind of deal


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Re the TV show bow hunters, I always wonder how they recover a deer that is hit in, what appears to be, a non vital area. Or, it would be for rifle. I do notice that they pull the arrow prior to showing a downed deer. I assume that they are hunting small high fenced places.

One young guy bow hunts my place. He is good and has never failed to recover a deer or hog. I've lost them when using my 30 caliber cannons.


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It's hard to get an animal to line up for a perfect shot attempt with a bow in the real world. No way I'd attempt some of these shots seen on these hunting shows.

Makes my blood boil at the lousy shots made and the fist bumps after such crappy shots. I watched a show once where 8 of the 10 kills were extremely high stunning the deer and knocking them down in their tracks. I'd feel like a piece of sh*t making a shot like that and damn sure wouldn't be fist bumping anyone 2cents



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Originally Posted by txtrophy85
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Add to that the backing out and leaving them till morning. For me to let lay overnight there better be snow on the ground. I’d rather risk pushing/loosing one the night of the shot than find it 25 yards into the brush the next morning. I don’t believe I’ve ever hunted a time that an animal could have sat over night and still been edible.


I'm not eating an animal left over night and I'm not leaving one overnight.


Yeah, they’re hunting South Texas in shirt-sleeves and leaving them overnight. Grinds my gears.


You can leave an animal overnight in most cases and it will be fine unless it’s god awful hot out. Seen it firsthand

You shank a deer at last light in 50 degree weather and find it in the morning your gonna be good to go. Something big like an elk or moose maybe a different story. I saw an elk spoil in September here in Texas that was shot and recovered an hour later

Well call the game warden and issue me a waste of game ticket, because if I shot one I couldn't find... .notice I said couldn't find lol not left over night, its going on the gut pile 100% guaranteed. Not that i would have to worry because the coyotes would have it polished off long before dawn.


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All said I am a fan of bow hunting and do it myself. My experience is a gut shot animal with a rifle is usually a much quicker easier track/find than a bow. Ive trailed maybe 5 gut shot animals that someone in our family myself included have shot. 1 was a long difficult sweated weather we were going to find it till the bloody end track but we found it (223 rem) but the others were all with 270 win's and maybe one with a 4570, none of them went more than 20-30 yards, most fell in sight of the hunter and the ones that didnt were a piece of cake to find.


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Eh, if a deer runs off due to bad shot, just shoot another deer, it’s no big deal. You don’t have to use your tags unless you find the game.

Sorry, I despise bow hunting just for this reason. Sure, there’s lotsa good ethical bow hunters, but there’s an awful lot that ain’t practiced or ethical, or even give a GD. The only reason they bow hunt is because they get an extra (early) 30’day head start. Heck, they can have a few deer wounded before regular season even starts for everybody else.

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Aw look, another anti bow hunting thread.


Definitely it’s intention


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I've been with a few outfitters who have personally changed their position on tv show hunters and refuse to book them or guide them anymore primarily for 2 reasons:
1. They are real PIA about filming, retakes, and
2. wanting to leave a shot animal until next day to look for animal

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