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7mm Mag load data #7889535 07/03/20 07:12 PM
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probably gonna jinx it but looks like I may have a 7mm Mag in my future

9 twist or 9.5 twist not sure yet

what grain bullets will be best suited for accuracy, 150-163?

I have RE-22, 26, H4831, IMR 7828ssc, Mag Pro, maybe some others

Manuals are boring....whats working best for ya'll?

Looking for accuracy loads for this safe queen

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Bought the 7MM MAG !!

ordering dies, brass and bullets

Need some Pet Loads, I did get a bunch off 24 hour Campfire

Gun wont be shot much, Ha Ha, kinda like all my guns

But I will shoot it and will kill with it purty or not.

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168 gr Berger Classic 68.5 gr of Reloder 26


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180 gr Berger VLD-Hunting +70.0 gr H-Retumbo

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I had terrible luck with Berger 168 VLDH's on a couple of deer hunts and several hogs. For that reason I stick to 140 and 160 AB's and partitions, and 150 BT's mostly. I've got plenty of data if your interested Buzz, and my go to powder for where I hunt is RL22. I know I'll get an earful from the temperature sensitive crowd, but I've proven to myself it's a non issue. I've hunted all over the place with my Tikka 695 &mag including MX, Africa 5 times, and several US states. It's hard to beat IMO for most game.

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Your list of powders is good Buzz. On game a 160 is the sweet spot. I load mine with H 4831 sc or Retumbo. I get more velocity with Retumbo but like the accuracy in my rifle with 4831 better. Go heavier if you want to shoot further and try Retumbo. If you like faster go lighter and try IMR 4350. IMR 7828 and a 175 is a classic 7RM load. RL 22 is like pixie dust in my 7 RM for making speed. It’s great on game but summer to winter velocities drop enough that there are more consistent choices if you want to dial long distance.

Edit to add: in a 160 my favorites are a Sierra game king and nosler Accubond.

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Originally Posted by Buzzsaw
Bought the 7MM MAG !!

ordering dies, brass and bullets

Need some Pet Loads, I did get a bunch off 24 hour Campfire

Gun wont be shot much, Ha Ha, kinda like all my guns

But I will shoot it and will kill with it purty or not.


What am it? I know it has great wood but what manufacturer and model?



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Originally Posted by Jgraider
I had terrible luck with Berger 168 VLDH's on a couple of deer hunts and several hogs.


Been watching Berger VLD-H for almost ten years. What I've concluded is you gotta run heavy for cartridge for them to do well. 180 gr 7 Rem Mag, +210 gr .30 cal.

Got a bud's .300 Win Mag loaded with 210 gr VLD-H below 2800 fps. He swears that rifle/ammo combo will kill anything at any distance, inside 500 yards.


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I rolled with 162g ELD-X over 68.7 Retumbo in a Heavy barrel Sendero and it is nails. Runs about 2850 depending on the weather

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I’ve been down this road a couple of times.
I use only temp stable powders and Berger bullets so feel free to ignore my advice.

I have loaded several thousand rounds for the 7 Rem Mag and have come to rely on the 168gr. VLD paired with Hodgdon H1000 and Federal 215 primers.

I think Retumbo and similar powders are too slow for consistent results with 160 to 180 grain bullets. There are a few exceptions to this though;
Jamming the bullet into the lands, tight neck tension and really short overall cartridge length can make those slower powders work really well.

H1000 has been much more consistent for me with heavier for caliber bullets in the 7mm. If you want to start chasing high velocity with lighter bullets i would recommend Hodgdon H4831.

I would recommend starting with 66 gr. of H1000 for both the 168gr. VLD/Classic Hunter and 175gr. Elite Hunter and work up from there.

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Originally Posted by Ritter
I’ve been down this road a couple of times.
I use only temp stable powders and Berger bullets so feel free to ignore my advice.

I have loaded several thousand rounds for the 7 Rem Mag and have come to rely on the 168gr. VLD paired with Hodgdon H1000 and Federal 215 primers.

I think Retumbo and similar powders are too slow for consistent results with 160 to 180 grain bullets. There are a few exceptions to this though;
Jamming the bullet into the lands, tight neck tension and really short overall cartridge length can make those slower powders work really well.

H1000 has been much more consistent for me with heavier for caliber bullets in the 7mm. If you want to start chasing high velocity with lighter bullets i would recommend Hodgdon H4831.

I would recommend starting with 66 gr. of H1000 for both the 168gr. VLD/Classic Hunter and 175gr. Elite Hunter and work up from there.


Did you ever try jumping the Bergers a few thousandths, and making a compressed or near compressed load of H-Retumbo?

168's at 3100 fps MV, and 180's at 3020 fps MV. Both out of 26" barrels, both at 100% case fill, or more. H-1000 is a fantastic powder, and so is Retumbo. They are literally touching each other on the burn rate chart, H-Retumbo being one step slower burn. Each of them have their place. For me, the long action Magnums, H-Retumbo is my first pick. For short mags, H-1000 is my first pick.


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I will find some H1000 and Retumbo, sold all mine when I sold my 6.5 Weatherby Mag.

I ordered 150 ballistic tips and Berger 168 Classics.

This gun will be a safe queen BUT will hunt every year just not shot allot. I'll know more when I get my hands on it.

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Holler at me if you want to try some 162 ELDX.



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Originally Posted by FiremanJG
Originally Posted by Ritter
I’ve been down this road a couple of times.
I use only temp stable powders and Berger bullets so feel free to ignore my advice.

I have loaded several thousand rounds for the 7 Rem Mag and have come to rely on the 168gr. VLD paired with Hodgdon H1000 and Federal 215 primers.

I think Retumbo and similar powders are too slow for consistent results with 160 to 180 grain bullets. There are a few exceptions to this though;
Jamming the bullet into the lands, tight neck tension and really short overall cartridge length can make those slower powders work really well.

H1000 has been much more consistent for me with heavier for caliber bullets in the 7mm. If you want to start chasing high velocity with lighter bullets i would recommend Hodgdon H4831.

I would recommend starting with 66 gr. of H1000 for both the 168gr. VLD/Classic Hunter and 175gr. Elite Hunter and work up from there.


Did you ever try jumping the Bergers a few thousandths, and making a compressed or near compressed load of H-Retumbo?

168's at 3100 fps MV, and 180's at 3020 fps MV. Both out of 26" barrels, both at 100% case fill, or more. H-1000 is a fantastic powder, and so is Retumbo. They are literally touching each other on the burn rate chart, H-Retumbo being one step slower burn. Each of them have their place. For me, the long action Magnums, H-Retumbo is my first pick. For short mags, H-1000 is my first pick.

Fireman, Retumbo did will for me with 168 VLD ( Hunt ) and the impressive 160 Accubond, was pushing the 160 AB around 3,125 fps on a boar hunt. Earshot at under 200 yards, in and out. up Ran out of Retumbo, but a few pounds of H1000 will work because I can.

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Originally Posted by scottfromdallas

Holler at me if you want to try some 162 ELDX.

I do please

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Don't mean to hijack the thread ...This is very interesting as I have a couple of 7mags
I have a bunch of older 140 Gr Nosler BT's (28140) and was thinking about a nice somewhat reduced recoil load ?
and I also have the 162 Hornady AMAX and was looking to extend the range with them ?


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I've had good luck with H4831SC and 162gr AMAX.
What barrel twist would you need to stabilize 180's?


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I'm going to trade a member here for some 162 ELDX to try.

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Originally Posted by Blanco
Don't mean to hijack the thread ...This is very interesting as I have a couple of 7mags
I have a bunch of older 140 Gr Nosler BT's (28140) and was thinking about a nice somewhat reduced recoil load ?
and I also have the 162 Hornady AMAX and was looking to extend the range with them ?


Blanco, I don’t shoot the Amax out of my 7 RM but I have a solid 140 Nosler Accubond load I will share that is pretty good in my 26” 700.
Work up to it. It is a max load in my rifle. I have substituted ballistic tips for Accubond which have the same profile and shoot similarly in my rifle at paper. They are seated long for the deep throated chamber in my rifle to accommodate heavier bullets so the overall length in my notes may jam it in the lands of your rifle. Groups were 5 shots @100 yards. The chronographed velocity for five shots at 64.5 grains of IMR 4350 on a 96 degree afternoon was 3258 FPS. These are the notes I took while shooting groups after I had previously shot a ladder test and wanted to look closer at 63.5-65 grains. Nosler advertises a max charge wt of 65 grains at 3280 FPS. I was getting heavily pancaked cratered primers at 65 grains and pulled those. On game I would be leery of the ballistic tips at 3258 FPS. I think they would be too explosive on impact for my taste and would likely come apart on game. IMR 4350 works well on light for caliber 7RM but every rifle is different.
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I'm running the 180 ELD-M over 70.2 gr Retumbo, CCI Mag primers and Hornady brass. Barrel is a Shilen 8 twist @ 26 inches + brake. IIRC I'm getting 2950 fps on the Labradar. What's interesting is that out to 1200 yards I'm using the exact same vertical adjustment as my buddy who's running a 338 Lapua. I'm sure the BC on that 338 bullet will take over eventually as we continue moving back and those adjustments will move apart.


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Originally Posted by Texan Til I Die
I'm running the 180 ELD-M over 70.2 gr Retumbo, CCI Mag primers and Hornady brass. Barrel is a Shilen 8 twist @ 26 inches + brake. IIRC I'm getting 2950 fps on the Labradar


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