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SAVAGE ARMS (WHAT HAPPEND TO THE INDIAN?) #7881293 06/25/20 10:49 PM
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How long has Savage had their new logo?
What happened to the Indian?
Did they decide that the word "Savage" and a Indian for a logo was racist?

Seriously I don't follow Savage, I just saw the new logo on TV and wondered if it was something they did recently in light of all the newly discovered racism.

Re: SAVAGE ARMS (WHAT HAPPEND TO THE INDIAN?) [Re: JCB] #7881312 06/25/20 11:04 PM
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I'm not sure, but I'm almost sure the answer to your 3rd question is unequivocally "Yes". "Savage" isn't a word used by anybody anymore, but, is a fantastic name for a rifle I think. I only own one rifle by the brand, a Model 99 with a brass counter in .300 Savage.

As an aside, and a long way off course, but bare with me - my parents got married in San Antonio on Dec. 26, 1940. They'd planned a honeymoon in Mexico and my mom said, and I quote, "I know the way to Laredo." They wound up spending their wedding night (which actually meant something back then, but I digress) in Alice, TX. Fast forward to about ten years ago, shutting Mom's house down, moving her to assisted living 'cause of dementia, etc., I was finally tackling (since nobody else would) Dad's closet. In a box with my oldest brother's baby shoes he'd carried on the B24 he was an RO in during WWII in the south Pacific, was a match book from the Savage Motel...Alice, TX. He'd kept it all those years. Helluva man.


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Re: SAVAGE ARMS (WHAT HAPPEND TO THE INDIAN?) [Re: JCB] #7881327 06/25/20 11:21 PM
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Of course they removed the Indian to be PC.





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My wife is a small part Indian. Can Indians still be Indians? Just wondering...


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My wife is 14% "Andean Native American", according to the Mormons and Ancestry.com. And her Bolivian grandpa always said they were "Basque". roflmao


...and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. Gen. 1:28
Re: SAVAGE ARMS (WHAT HAPPEND TO THE INDIAN?) [Re: JCB] #7881434 06/26/20 12:44 AM
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It has actually been gone for a few years. I bought a savage rifle in 2012 or 13 that still had the Indian on the grip. Lost it a couple of years later and looked at their website for a replacement. They had switched logos so I dropped the matter.

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In 1919, Arthur Savage was approached by Chief Lame Deer to buy rifles for his tribe in New York. Lame Deer offered to allow Savage to use his image as its logo in exchange for discounted rifles and an annual fee. As of 2018, Savage Arms was still paying the annual fee.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savage_Arms


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Re: SAVAGE ARMS (WHAT HAPPEND TO THE INDIAN?) [Re: JCB] #7881515 06/26/20 01:59 AM
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Chief Lame Deer was a much cooler logo.





Re: SAVAGE ARMS (WHAT HAPPEND TO THE INDIAN?) [Re: JCB] #7881560 06/26/20 02:57 AM
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Lots of bidding happening on eBay for Savage memorabilia that carries the Indian Chief logo. You could find it just last year on many of their 125th Anniversary items, including their 125th Anniversary Model 110 Bolt-action. While I haven't seen any mention the company has officially dropped the logo, folks sure seem interested in snapping up items that carry it. As is often the case, it's the older "vintage" stuff that seems to be demanding the highest prices.

OLD VINTAGE 1979 SAVAGE ARMS PORCELAIN ADVERTISING SIGN RARE GREAT COLORS INDIAN

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Re: SAVAGE ARMS (WHAT HAPPEND TO THE INDIAN?) [Re: JCB] #7881568 06/26/20 03:03 AM
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It seems to me that the logo changed when it was bought by the employees investor group.


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Originally Posted by unclebubba
It seems to me that the logo changed when it was bought by the employees investor group.


With the company being founded in 1894, last year marked their 125th Anniversary. As of just yesterday, the company online store still had a few leftover items from last year's Anniversary promotions. I suspect folks are just seeing the writing on the wall and buying the more collectable vintage items before prices get higher.

While the limited production run of the 125th Anniversary Model 110 is now over, you can still find a few being sold by online dealers.

Savage 125th Anniversary Model 110

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They took the Indian off the butter, Aunt Jemima off the pancake box, Uncle Ben off the rice...wait for it, the Gerber Baby goes black!

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Originally Posted by DH3
They took the Indian off the butter, Aunt Jemima off the pancake box, Uncle Ben off the rice...wait for it, the Gerber Baby goes black!



We lost Eskimo Pies too. It's being rebranded now.





Re: SAVAGE ARMS (WHAT HAPPEND TO THE INDIAN?) [Re: Texas Dan] #7883658 06/28/20 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Texas Dan
Lots of bidding happening on eBay for Savage memorabilia that carries the Indian Chief logo. You could find it just last year on many of their 125th Anniversary items, including their 125th Anniversary Model 110 Bolt-action. While I haven't seen any mention the company has officially dropped the logo, folks sure seem interested in snapping up items that carry it. As is often the case, it's the older "vintage" stuff that seems to be demanding the highest prices.

OLD VINTAGE 1979 SAVAGE ARMS PORCELAIN ADVERTISING SIGN RARE GREAT COLORS INDIAN


lots of reproduction out there, example..."marbles" items, ect are new, not the original items. like the safety hatchet, the older ones sold for lots of money, the new one have ruined the market.


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Re: SAVAGE ARMS (WHAT HAPPEND TO THE INDIAN?) [Re: JCB] #7889310 07/03/20 02:52 PM
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My Savage has a sticker with Lame Deer on it. Normally I would remove it but I’ll not do that now.


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