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Re: Ruger RPR "I am not impressed with your performance"
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Looks like you shoot at B-Tactical as well. Thats where I was today. I bet I have met you.
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Re: Ruger RPR "I am not impressed with your performance"
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You probably meant 47 rounds now that I look at it.
It was more like 60. I zeroed the scope with 3 and then shot 10 more foulers since I stripped the barrel clean to foul it a bit before I shot for groups. Sorry, it was an attempt at being funny. I think theyre heavy. The 47 pounds was an exaggeration. As far as unknown loads I simply meant you’ve yet to do load development yourself, and factory ammo is seldom the best. I bet when you tune handloads it will tighten up.
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Re: Ruger RPR "I am not impressed with your performance"
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Looks like you shoot at B-Tactical as well. Thats where I was today. I bet I have met you. That’s where I mostly shoot thru the week. To busy anymore on the weekends. That pic was probably 4-5 yrs ago. I’ve had 3 other RPR since then, all shot well. I have a Gen 1 6.5CM that’s unfired, getting ready to work up a load for it.
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Re: Ruger RPR "I am not impressed with your performance"
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Still bet we have met. I have been shooting there since they opened and go every weekend, sometimes twice a week.
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Re: Ruger RPR "I am not impressed with your performance"
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Still bet we have met. I have been shooting there since they opened and go every weekend, sometimes twice a week. Give me a shout if you want to try some 105 AMAX. That’s what I shoot in my 243. I have about 1700 of them so I’m good for a while. They shoot great.
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Re: Ruger RPR "I am not impressed with your performance"
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05/24/20 01:39 AM
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If you've got the time and the distance to ladder test it, I bet you'll find your load(s).
I've only got experience with 6.5 Creedmoor in the R.P.R. and they were 1/2-3/4 MOA shooters. In other words, right now my opinion of the R.P.R. is pretty high. And yes, Kyle did have a bad barrel, it shot quite bad. And a .308 shooting bad in this day and age is not something that's very common. Are there any magical 6mm bullets these days? The last time I loaded for .243 the 105 Amax was top dog. The 103s and 108s might be it now days I guess. I tend to gravitate toward Hornady first. But, if I were to build a 6 Creedmoor it would have the twist to rin 115 DTACs, or I wouldn't build it. Not sure if the Ruger has the twist for that though. So back to the Hornady list. Course Berger is an option, and Sierras are always easy to make shoot.
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Re: Ruger RPR "I am not impressed with your performance"
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If you've got the time and the distance to ladder test it, I bet you'll find your load(s).
I've only got experience with 6.5 Creedmoor in the R.P.R. and they were 1/2-3/4 MOA shooters. In other words, right now my opinion of the R.P.R. is pretty high. And yes, Kyle did have a bad barrel, it shot quite bad. And a .308 shooting bad in this day and age is not something that's very common. Are there any magical 6mm bullets these days? The last time I loaded for .243 the 105 Amax was top dog. The 103s and 108s might be it now days I guess. I tend to gravitate toward Hornady first. But, if I were to build a 6 Creedmoor it would have the twist to rin 115 DTACs, or I wouldn't build it. Not sure if the Ruger has the twist for that though. So back to the Hornady list. Course Berger is an option, and Sierras are always easy to make shoot. They have a 7.7 twist. I would think 115 would work. I know those 105 AMAX worked great in the 243 with the 7.7 twist.
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Re: Ruger RPR "I am not impressed with your performance"
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Its a 1-7.7 twist. At least they got that right.
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Re: Ruger RPR "I am not impressed with your performance"
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Funny thing is, the 105s worked great in my Remington varmint 243 which had a 1-12 twist.
Eta: all the way to 1100 yards at Battlefield.
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Re: Ruger RPR "I am not impressed with your performance"
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I found the Berger required a lot more work to get them to shoot as well in it. I worked for a while to get the 105 Hybrids to shoot as well.
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Re: Ruger RPR "I am not impressed with your performance"
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Ill have to check on Sierras. They are always easy to get shooting good although they dont have the BC.
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Re: Ruger RPR "I am not impressed with your performance"
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Looks like Sierras 110 Matchking has a BC of .617 vs the Hornady 108 ELD-M at .536. The 110 ATip has a .604. Hmm. Might have to give the Sierras a shot.
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Re: Ruger RPR "I am not impressed with your performance"
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Ill have to check on Sierras. They are always easy to get shooting good although they dont have the BC. I agree. However, in the last few years they have stepped up their BC a bit. Hornady and Berger were out performing them. Right now, on these 6's, I don't know, haven't looked into them. Not hard to make you a list. Course, Hornady's are easy to make shoot as well. I see Berger VLD, and expect to have to mess with seating depth. Not so much with Hornady and Sierra. Jump em 5 or 50, or 100, and you'll still find a good load.
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Re: Ruger RPR "I am not impressed with your performance"
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Needs a true load development. Two factory loads and one pre-made handload are hardly a test of a gun's capabilities. No guarantees it will shoot lights out, but it would be an unusual RPR if it didn't.
Jlbassman can make those things sing. I'd sell it to him and let him see what he could do with it. It'll save you $ in the long run.
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Re: Ruger RPR "I am not impressed with your performance"
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sell it
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Re: Ruger RPR "I am not impressed with your performance"
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Needs a true load development. Two factory loads and one pre-made handload are hardly a test of a gun's capabilities. No guarantees it will shoot lights out, but it would be an unusual RPR if it didn't.
Jlbassman can make those things sing. I'd sell it to him and let him see what he could do with it. It'll save you $ in the long run. Thanks for the opinion. I am well versed in handloading and load dev. I was just comparing it to a TIKKA T3 LITE with a 2nd hand barrel that I screwed on in my garage and proceeded to shoot half MOA with factory ammunuition. Like more than 2 different factory loads. I have developed a load for it, and will for this. It just doesnt seem inherently as accurate as what I am used to.
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Re: Ruger RPR "I am not impressed with your performance"
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Needs a true load development. Two factory loads and one pre-made handload are hardly a test of a gun's capabilities. No guarantees it will shoot lights out, but it would be an unusual RPR if it didn't.
Jlbassman can make those things sing. I'd sell it to him and let him see what he could do with it. It'll save you $ in the long run. Thanks for the opinion. I am well versed in handloading and load dev. I was just comparing it to a TIKKA T3 LITE with a 2nd hand barrel that I screwed on in my garage and proceeded to shoot half MOA with factory ammunuition. Like more than 2 different factory loads. I have developed a load for it, and will for this. It just doesnt seem inherently as accurate as what I am used to. Some guns shoot some factory loads better than others. My Tikka CTR 6.5 CM shoots 140 ELD-M factory ammo nearly into one hole. It's 1/2 MOA with it, and I assume part of that is shooter-related. Then it's 2" groups with 143 ELD-X. Guns are like women - they're all different. At least with a gun though, most of the time if something isn't happy, it really is because of something you did.
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Re: Ruger RPR "I am not impressed with your performance"
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How many rounds were on it when you got it? Less than fifty IIRC.
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Re: Ruger RPR "I am not impressed with your performance"
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[Re: CharlieSierraDelta] Given you picked it up on a trade, here's someone who appears to pay special attention to barrel life, as well as twist rate when comparing the 6 and 6.5. "6mm calibers, including the 6mm Creedmoor tend to have shorter barrel life than other calibers." Link
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Re: Ruger RPR "I am not impressed with your performance"
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If you've got the time and the distance to ladder test it, I bet you'll find your load(s).
I've only got experience with 6.5 Creedmoor in the R.P.R. and they were 1/2-3/4 MOA shooters. In other words, right now my opinion of the R.P.R. is pretty high. And yes, Kyle did have a bad barrel, it shot quite bad. And a .308 shooting bad in this day and age is not something that's very common. Are there any magical 6mm bullets these days? The last time I loaded for .243 the 105 Amax was top dog. The 103s and 108s might be it now days I guess. Clint, like FJG mentioned, the 115 DTAC is a current ‘magical’ bullet....If memory serves it holds the current 1000 yard record, 1.09” out of a 6 BR AI. Thinking of changing my .243 over!
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Re: Ruger RPR "I am not impressed with your performance"
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If you've got the time and the distance to ladder test it, I bet you'll find your load(s).
I've only got experience with 6.5 Creedmoor in the R.P.R. and they were 1/2-3/4 MOA shooters. In other words, right now my opinion of the R.P.R. is pretty high. And yes, Kyle did have a bad barrel, it shot quite bad. And a .308 shooting bad in this day and age is not something that's very common. Are there any magical 6mm bullets these days? The last time I loaded for .243 the 105 Amax was top dog. The 103s and 108s might be it now days I guess. 105 hybrids or 107gr sierra are pretty much a shoe in for easy accuracy. My preference for bullets in the 6 creed is 115 dtacs.
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Re: Ruger RPR "I am not impressed with your performance"
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Well. Im giving it the old college try. Tomorrow i will find out if this thing can shoot.
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Re: Ruger RPR "I am not impressed with your performance"
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110 smk have a horrible reputation for being finicky. The are extremely jump sensitive.
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Re: Ruger RPR "I am not impressed with your performance"
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I guess we will find out tomorrow.
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Re: Ruger RPR "I am not impressed with your performance"
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No good today either, especially with my handloads with the 110 SMK. I loaded a ladder test with the new Staball powder. The velocities are there for sure, but I dont think I have enough twist to stabilize them. Last night I swapped scope rings and leveled my optic. I swapped bipods to my Harris BR. 41.0 = 2835 Avg 41.5 = 2930 Avg 42.0 = 2984 Avg 42.5 = 3028 Avg 42.7 = 3043 Avg. This load was published max, but I saw no pressure signs at all. Anyways, the first group was a fluke. I attempted to back it up later and the group easily doubled in size. I shot these with bipod and off a bag. Nothing really changed. At this rate I am going to shoot the barrel out before I get a load developed.
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