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Re: Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy [Re: HWY_MAN] #7855145 05/29/20 11:51 PM
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Re: Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy [Re: HWY_MAN] #7855146 05/29/20 11:51 PM
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And the thread continues to just get more odd


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News reported the complaining merchant told PD he looked drunk or high and was acting erratically. So yea, let the toxicology report explain that.


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Re: Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy [Re: HWY_MAN] #7855162 05/30/20 12:06 AM
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The autopsy report won't be final until the toxicology report is done which is 3 to 4 wks. I don't think PCP, because it's not that common here in MN, Ketamine or bath salts are more likely.


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Re: Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy [Re: HWY_MAN] #7855164 05/30/20 12:10 AM
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Now they gotta return there TV’s right? They not gonna like that either.

Re: Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy [Re: HWY_MAN] #7855172 05/30/20 12:20 AM
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This changes nothing.


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Re: Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy [Re: HWY_MAN] #7855174 05/30/20 12:20 AM
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My guess heart attack. When I had my bypass surgery, I was doing okay, then all at once I could not breathe, or at least felt that way, I started screaming I could not breath. Within in seconds a crash team was on me, they shoved nitro pills under my tongue, and was rolling my hell bent for leather to the Cath Lab. Sounds like he was prescribed nitro and needed a pill asap.


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Re: Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy [Re: HWY_MAN] #7855183 05/30/20 12:27 AM
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Yep, everyone was so upset about the knee to the neck, the failed to troubleshoot the situation. Difficulty breathing is one of the major symptoms of a heart attack.

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I still want to see the video that's being held back, that will likely show him acting so crazy, he had to be put on his face and held down. We will see it, but not for a long time.

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Originally Posted by ntxtrapper
I still want to see the video that's being held back, that will likely show him acting so crazy, he had to be put on his face and held down. We will see it, but not for a long time.

That’s what I’m saying. There is a reason he ended up on the ground but they ain’t showing it.

Re: Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy [Re: JCB] #7855197 05/30/20 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by ntxtrapper
I still want to see the video that's being held back, that will likely show him acting so crazy, he had to be put on his face and held down. We will see it, but not for a long time.

That’s what I’m saying. There is a reason he ended up on the ground but they ain’t showing it.

The crowd was on the cops side for a little bit. I imagine they saw him acting a fool. They changed their tune when the officer never got off him.

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There will be an independent autopsy. I guarantee it.

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It was obviously a Covid 19 death.


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Re: Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy [Re: Roll-Tide] #7855205 05/30/20 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Roll-Tide
There will be an independent autopsy. I guarantee it.

I saw something about the family having already hired someone.


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Ketamine is a hell of a drug


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Re: Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy [Re: Roll-Tide] #7855217 05/30/20 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Roll-Tide
There will be an independent autopsy. I guarantee it.

I thought it was......

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Autopsies are independent. But not independent enough for some.

They will hire some guy trying to get publicity and enter those at trial. And their expert will dispute the state or county medical examiner.

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Originally Posted by Roll-Tide
Autopsies are independent. But not independent enough for some.

They will hire some guy trying to get publicity and enter those at trial. And their expert will dispute the state or county medical examiner.

Oh, roger.

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SNEAKY , odd huh


No, not at all. I suspected such things from the beginning.

Are those self-inflicted conditions what killed him?

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Re: Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy [Re: ntxtrapper] #7855234 05/30/20 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by ntxtrapper
I still want to see the video that's being held back, that will likely show him acting so crazy, he had to be put on his face and held down. We will see it, but not for a long time.


There are three videos. One from when he was pulled out of the car through when he was walked across the intersection, one from when he was being kneeled on with his lower half obscured by the police SUV and one from directly behind that view showing the two other cops kneeling on his lower half.

I read here that the second and third videos were after he was in the car and they pulled him out for resisting arrest. If that’s true, it only brings up more questions. Why would they remove him from the car to put him on the ground after he was in the car?

The big questions that need to be answered are:

Why did three officers put their weight on him for nine minutes after he clearly was subdued and handcuffed? In the videos, he was clearly subdued with three officers on top of him.

Why did they stay on him for 9 minutes?

Did this contribute to his death? Would he have gone into cardiac arrest had he not been arrested, handcuffed and had three people laying on him, one with his knee on his neck area?


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Originally Posted by Roll-Tide
There will be an independent autopsy. I guarantee it.


Yes, the family already requested one.


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Originally Posted by Duck_Hunter
Originally Posted by ntxtrapper
I still want to see the video that's being held back, that will likely show him acting so crazy, he had to be put on his face and held down. We will see it, but not for a long time.


There are three videos. One from when he was pulled out of the car through when he was walked across the intersection, one from when he was being kneeled on with his lower half obscured by the police SUV and one from directly behind that view showing the two other cops kneeling on his lower half.

I read here that the second and third videos were after he was in the car and they pulled him out for resisting arrest. If that’s true, it only brings up more questions. Why would they remove him from the car to put him on the ground after he was in the car?

The big questions that need to be answered are:

Why did three officers put their weight on him for nine minutes after he clearly was subdued and handcuffed? In the videos, he was clearly subdued with three officers on top of him.

Why did they stay on him for 9 minutes?

Did this contribute to his death? Would he have gone into cardiac arrest had he not been arrested, handcuffed and had three people laying on him, one with his knee on his neck area?


I've seen them slam their heads against the cage, window's and even the outside of the vehicle, trying to make it look like excessive use of force. Then file against the arresting officer. Maybe trying to kick out a window? All are reasons to take them back out of the vehicle and re-cuff or hobble. Like I keep saying, there's an important part of this missing and I'll bet it's on video.

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Originally Posted by Duck_Hunter
Originally Posted by ntxtrapper
I still want to see the video that's being held back, that will likely show him acting so crazy, he had to be put on his face and held down. We will see it, but not for a long time.


There are three videos. One from when he was pulled out of the car through when he was walked across the intersection, one from when he was being kneeled on with his lower half obscured by the police SUV and one from directly behind that view showing the two other cops kneeling on his lower half.

I read here that the second and third videos were after he was in the car and they pulled him out for resisting arrest. If that’s true, it only brings up more questions. Why would they remove him from the car to put him on the ground after he was in the car?

The big questions that need to be answered are:

Why did three officers put their weight on him for nine minutes after he clearly was subdued and handcuffed? In the videos, he was clearly subdued with three officers on top of him.

Why did they stay on him for 9 minutes?

Did this contribute to his death? Would he have gone into cardiac arrest had he not been arrested, handcuffed and had three people laying on him, one with his knee on his neck area?

The three were on his back for 9 minutes? You sure?

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Originally Posted by Marc K
It was obviously a Covid 19 death.



Or flu.


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