That was a solid series. I wish I was older so I could of remembered it.
Michael is no doubt the goat, and I'm not sure if they weren't the greatest basketball team to play.
Good stuff

I wrapped up the series last night and thoroughly enjoyed it. Brought back a lot of memories of a time when I used to watch every NBA playoff game that I could. I know some will disagree, but Jordan is the GOAT. Phil Jackson was a huge part to the success story as well. Many people forget what he did after the Bulls...win another 3-peat and a total of 5 more NBA championships with the Lakers. I put him right on our there with Red Auerbach as the greatest coach in NBA history.

Virginian for me.

Best thing ESPN has ever done. It was awesome.

Jordan is absolutely the GOAT. It was great to hear him explain it, especially in Episode 7. “I never asked anyone to do anything I wasn’t willing to do myself. If you don’t like it, don’t play.”

That says it all. The object is to win championships. That’s all he wanted and he made sure his teammates, even the role players, were helping him do that. As he said, “if that meant I had to get in your [butt], I was gonna get in your [butt].”

It was refreshing to see that type of mentality.

I didn't watch any of that, is it on replay?

I can tell you that documentary sure brought a ton of money into the sports cards market. Im talking 400%-500%+ increases in sale prices in just a few days. To bad I didn't buy any of the key cards while they were still under the radar.

The only thing, more boring than BB...…………..
is baseball....….

Agree. I like cowboys and their beautiful horses. I saw one that looked more like an American Saddle Bred three gated horse last night. Love those old horse drawn bugghis.

Also, we need a sticky on TV tonight. There are at. Least a half dozen threads about it each day.

I don't like basketball myself, but it was a great documentary.

I believe it's on Netflix. They've been reairing episodes on ESPN though

I agree 100%. Put together really well and quickly became the show I was drooling to watch more of. I remember as a kid we got WGN in Chicago and they showed all of the bulls games. For whatever reason my mom was a huge bulls fan and so I became one. We watched so many games, followed all the the teams, stats, and players. The show reminded me of things I heard in the news like Pippen wanting to quit and Jordan playing baseball but I did not know any of the behind the scenes drama with management. Jordan was the best basketball Player ever and no one has out performed him since.

Thanks. I was listening to the "ticket" (1310AM) and they were talking about it (probably 2 days ago?), and they were saying how turned off they were by some of Jordan's comments. I want to watch it all for myself.

I remember in an interview he was worried that people would lose respect for him for how he treated teammates. It wasn't that he treated them bad, he just wanted them to rise up, and people don't understand that in this day.

On 1310 the ticket, what they were talking about that they were turned off about was another opposing player that apparently was able to slow Jordan stat wise, and Jordan could not bring himself to admit it, or something like that. I could be way off on this, but I want to watch it all myself.

I had forgotten about Steve Kerr’s Dad being killed in Beirut by terrorists masquerading as students at American Univ.

Was interesting that he said he and MJ never talked about their fathers being murdered.

But, for me, the takeaway was how what opposing players either said about him, or awards they won over him fueled such a fire whenever he played them....not many, if any, like him.

That is what I found the most interesting. I remember the headlines but the details were fascinating.

I remember in an interview he was worried that people would lose respect for him for how he treated teammates. It wasn't that he treated them bad, he just wanted them to rise up, and people don't understand that in this day. [/quote]
On 1310 the ticket, what they were talking about that they were turned off about was another opposing player that apparently was able to slow Jordan stat wise, and Jordan could not bring himself to admit it, or something like that. I could be way off on this, but I want to watch it all myself.
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In context to Gary Paton aka The Glove. While I found Jordan's reaction interesting I also thought Gary's recollection of things is a bit skewed as well. MJ stilled average 23pts per game and the Bulls won the series in 6 games. I don't consider that shutting anyone down but it was good defense.

MJ is no doubt the best ever..

But the documentary sugar coated some of the negatives and left out a lot of things. They completely left out two entire seasoned where he lost in the playoffs. I heard on sports talk radio that the entire series had to be signed off by MJ and many interviews that had some negative things were axed.

MJ controls the narrative and I don't blame him..

He also is a huge product of circumstance.

He fell into the perfect storm with the timing of the Pistons being on the downhill side and not really any other great team to challenge them during their run.

Aren't we all a product of circumstance? Good and bad.

They did reference the two series losses but didn't elaborate.

It was absolutely controlled by MJ but I am glad there was a glimpse into what made him who he is.

TV tonight sucks. I'm starting with Tombstone on AMC. Its the worst OK Corral movie in my whole wide world. Switching to Virginian just hoping not to fall asleep.


Open it back up. Bring. Back MLB.

On 1310 the ticket, what they were talking about that they were turned off about was another opposing player that apparently was able to slow Jordan stat wise, and Jordan could not bring himself to admit it, or something like that. I could be way off on this, but I want to watch it all myself.
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In context to Gary Paton aka The Glove. While I found Jordan's reaction interesting I also thought Gary's recollection of things is a bit skewed as well. MJ stilled average 23pts per game and the Bulls won the series in 6 games. I don't consider that shutting anyone down but it was good defense. [/quote]

I guess in his mind keeping him below his average of 27 points during that series was shutting him down..........

On 1310 the ticket, what they were talking about that they were turned off about was another opposing player that apparently was able to slow Jordan stat wise, and Jordan could not bring himself to admit it, or something like that. I could be way off on this, but I want to watch it all myself.
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In context to Gary Paton aka The Glove. While I found Jordan's reaction interesting I also thought Gary's recollection of things is a bit skewed as well. MJ stilled average 23pts per game and the Bulls won the series in 6 games. I don't consider that shutting anyone down but it was good defense. [/quote]

Gary Payton was the best on-the-ball defender at the time and still is one of the most prolific trash talkers of all time. MJ’s worst game against Payton in the playoffs was game six in 1996 finals , where he had 22 points. The Bulls won the game and championship. He also had 36 in game three of that series.

Payton definitely slowed MJ down in that series (and when they played each other in general). Jordan was and is a great trash talker, and what The Last Dance really showed was where he got his motivation - from trash talking, having a chip on his shoulder, feeling slighted in some way.

The context of the TLD re: Jordan and Payton was this:


The answer to trash talk when you’re winning or won is always the same: I won, you lost. Jordan definitely struggled, compared to most games, against Payton, but it wasn’t like he was completely shutdown and lost.

I enjoyed the reactions to things like this by MJ in the documentary. I thought it was funny. MJ was motivated by this stuff and is a large part of why he worked so hard to become the greatest.