Ready to toss the old heavy steel summit viper. It’s too heavy loud and bulky for me. Probably weighs 30+lbs. I really am liking the Lonewolf Sit and Climb since it’s only 20lbs and mainly because of it’s very low profile (4” thick)Thinking about getting the Hazmore net seat with it as well. I don’t think the comfort will be like my millennium stand but I’m just wanting another climber. Also was looking at the tree walker but it’s big and bulky too... can anyone steer me towards one direction?