Had the 6.5 cm been introduced in the 1970’s a lot of other calibers may not have came about.

Then again, it was a different era. Fine cartridges like the .284 win were dying off in favor of big magnums.

I do think it’s good that we have swung back towards the middle when talking about gen purpose deer cartridges

You sure about that?

It's no 300 HAMR. I never saw a Creedmoor thread go 53 pages.

Just wait until they release the 6.5 HAMoor then we will really see an infomercial.

As a matter of fact I am...See below.....



Ballistics




The .308 round uses a rimless casing and a large rifle primer, topped with a 7.82mm bullet that is 51mm in length. The cartridge has an overall length of 2.8 inches and the case can hold up to 56 grains of propellant.




For comparison, the .30-06 Springfield uses a rimless casing and a large rifle primer, topped with a 7.8mm bullet. The cartridge, however, has an overall length of 3.4 inches and the case can hold 68 grains of propellant.




While the .308's ballistics were meant to replicate that of the .30-06, it was actually developed from the .300 Savage cartridge. It has slightly more drop at long range than the .30-06, due to a slightly lower muzzle velocity with most bullet weights.

Last year I was looking for a bolt gun that my 12 year old boy could comfortably shoot a deer with and one that I could shoot long range with in the future. I had heard good things about the 6.5 CM & the 7mm08. I picked the 6.5 CM because Midway was running a great deal on it. It’s dead nutz accurate and has very little recoil.... has a great bc and is supposed to do well at long distances. I’ll check that out sometime soon, but here is a 5 shot group from 100 yards from the first day I got it. Factory gun with factory ammo.

If people wanna clown on me for jumping on the trendy bandwagon, let’em talk. I never put a scale to it, but it looks like all 5 are in 1/4” or less, so I’m pretty happy with my purchase

i have had different guns and calibers over the years, and my 270 does everything i need. it kills everything i point at, mostly because i believe i will kill whatever its aimed at. with that said i have always loved the oddball calibers. One day ill build a 338-06 or an 8mm remmy, they just have always called to me. Building a 6.5 grendel now for my son to use to bridge the gap from 223 to whatever he wants down the road.

I waited a long time to jump on the 6.5 CM bandwagon, almost went 6.5 PRC instead but 99.9% of my hunting and shooting will be here in Texas. It fits the bill, and I got a great deal on my Tikka.

I usually just want something different.

Are you saying a 308 can be made from a 300 Savage case, you going to stretch it? While the US Military looked at the 300 Savage from my understanding they never used it, they used an experimental case call the T-65. Similar to a 300 Savage but not the same case, longer and more case capacity.

Seven years ago, I wanted a new, more accurate rifle. Not so much thought went into the caliber, but more so on the rifle for my application. I settled on the rifle and noticed it was in .308. I read up on it, having never owned one. The ballistics were good so I bought it. I've killed a huge pile of deer, pigs and coyotes with it. So my new caliber was .308.

This year, same thing in AR platform. I went with 6.5 Creedmoor, Wilson Combat. Trendy? I don't know but I liked the numbers and it suits my application just fine. If it has the #'s you want and for me good availability of factory ammo, I'm in. I bought .300 Blackout 10 years ago and was told it was a trend.

I've taken deer and hogs with everything from .223 to 12 Gauge, and most of those animals, about 90%, were taken with a .308 shooting 150 Grain Nosler Ballistic Tips.

My primary will always be the .308.

Just my .02,
LeonCarr

Worth repeating.

Variety is the spice of life.........

I don't have a 6.5 CM for the same reason I don't have a 308, both are mediocre rounds that I have no use for. If i wanted a belt-less 6.5 I'd go back to my old 6.5-284, or a 264 Win mag. The only trendy round I'm guilty of having is the 270 WSM, it offered something others didn't. You could say it mimics the 270 Weatherby without having to buy a Weatherby although mines on a Weatherby action.

6.5 Creed
.223 Rem






.277 Fury

My disdain for the 6.5cm has a lot less to do with the actual round itself and more with the people shooting it that act like it’s the equivalent to a wreaking ball for any animal on 4 legs.

Based on horsepower, it’s a mediocre round. But whitetail deer are mediocre in size and the vast majority of them are shot at mediocre ranges. I think what a lot of people are discovering ( or re discovering ) that you don’t need to get the crap kicked out of you to kill a deer under a feeder. A 6.5 cm shines at this task.

When I think of tendu rounds that make me scratch my head, it’s cartridges like the 6.8 spc, the 6.5 Grendel and the .300 blackout. IMO those are at the very minimum threshold of what would be considered a reliable game getter.

The .264 win mag and .270 wsm are great rounds for western hunters whose come across a variety of game at a variety of ranges, but completely unnecessary to routinely kill a 150 lb animal at 100-120 yards like most Texas hunters ( and most hunters In the majority of the country ) are doing

Yeah I like ‘em if they are good performers, including the creedmoor. That doesn’t mean I’m not gonna laugh at the skinny jeans, white sun glasses, and man buns of those trying for the trendy creedmoor look either.

What about the 22 Creedmoor?

I have a 260 because a friend sold it, scoped, for $300. However, I don’t think the 260 is at all trendy these days. My 220 Swift isn’t trendy, nor is my 270 or 223.

The way I see it these days is that nothing much, caliber wise, that is considered trendy improves much, if at all, over what was already available.

This 6.5mm talk is a great example.

Super old 6.5x55

Fairly old .260 Rem

Fairly new 6.5 Creedmoor

The latter is better case geometry, producing more efficient powder burn. Not unlike the 28 Nosler against the 7 STW, the 30 Nosler against the .300 Win Mag. It lost the belt, and has a better shoulder angle, which makes it easier to make shoot well, and tends to produce more velocity without a significant increase in powder charge. Not to say those old ones cannot and do not do well, they do. People that have them, really have no reason to change. Someone that wants a long magnum 7mm or 30 cal, that does not already have one, I would advise to get the newer more efficient cartridges for reasons listed above. Someone that wants a .473" short action 6.5mm I would advise the 6.5 Creedmoor over the .260 Rem. Are they the better mouse trap? Yes, yes they are.

I'm indiscriminate. I shoot my dad's 270, my granddad's '06 and am looking into the 277 Fury. The more the merrier.

I’ll agree with Fireman that the new rounds he mentioned are a bit better than the ones they supposedly replace. But, like I said, I don’t think they are a great leap better. And we really didn’t need them. Mostly just better packaging - case and belt. That old advertising verbiage of “new and improved” works well on just about everything from dishwashing soap to battle tanks. And new-ish cartridges lead to folks buying new rifles to get the latest and greatest. A fellow with a 270 might not want or need a new 270, but a 27 Nosler, that’s exciting. And the gun makers can sell another rifle. When you’ve saturated the market with the thing you sell, you have to have something else to sell, and new and improved gets it done. It’s marketing.

All that said, I’m fine with all of it. And I’d buy some new rifle and caliber if I thought it would benefit me.

Phone books worked well for years too. Things change new stuff comes out. You either like the new stuff or keep using the phone book...the real issue is to many people worry what others are doing and think.