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Information on viruses #7789828 03/30/20 11:40 AM
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The following is from Irene Ken, physician, whose daughter is an Asst. Prof in infectious diseases at Johns Hopkins University.

* The virus is not a living organism, but a protein molecule (DNA) covered by a protective layer of lipid (fat), which, when absorbed by the cells of the ocular, nasal or buccal mucosa, changes their genetic code. (mutation) and convert them into aggressor and multiplier cells.

* Since the virus is not a living organism but a protein molecule, it is not killed, but decays on its own. The disintegration time depends on the temperature, humidity and type of material where it lies.

* The virus is very fragile; the only thing that protects it is a thin outer layer of fat. That is why any soap or detergent is the best remedy, because the foam CUTS the FAT (that is why you have to rub so much: for 20 seconds or more, to make a lot of foam).

By dissolving the fat layer, the protein molecule disperses and breaks down on its own.

* HEAT melts fat; this is why it is so good to use water above 77 degrees Fahrenheit for washing hands, clothes and everything. In addition, hot water makes more foam and that makes it even more useful.

* Alcohol or any mixture with alcohol over 65% DISSOLVES ANY FAT, especially the external lipid layer of the virus.

* Any mix with 1 part bleach and 5 parts water directly dissolves the protein, breaks it down from the inside.

* Oxygenated water helps long after soap, alcohol and chlorine, because peroxide dissolves the virus protein, but you have to use it pure and it hurts your skin.

* NO BACTERICIDE OR ANTIBIOTIC SERVES. The virus is not a living organism like bacteria; antibodies cannot kill what is not alive.

* NEVER shake used or unused clothing, sheets or cloth. While it is glued to a porous surface, it is very inert and disintegrates only
-between 3 hours (fabric and porous),
-4 hours (copper and wood)
-24 hours (cardboard),
- 42 hours (metal) and
-72 hours (plastic).

But if you shake it or use a feather duster, the virus molecules float in the air for up to 3 hours, and can lodge in your nose.

* The virus molecules remain very stable in external cold, or artificial as air conditioners in houses and cars.

They also need moisture to stay stable, and especially darkness. Therefore, dehumidified, dry, warm and bright environments will degrade it faster.

* UV LIGHT on any object that may contain it breaks down the virus protein. For example, to disinfect and reuse a mask is perfect. Be careful, it also breaks down collagen (which is protein) in the skin.

* The virus CANNOT go through healthy skin.

* Vinegar is NOT useful because it does not break down the protective layer of fat.

* NO SPIRITS, NOT EVEN VODKA, serve. The strongest vodka is 40% alcohol, and you need 65%.

* LISTERINE IF IT SERVES! It is 65% alcohol.

* The more confined the space, the more concentration of the virus there can be. The more open or naturally ventilated, the less.

* You have to wash your hands before and after touching mucosa, food, locks, knobs, switches, remote control, cell phone, watches, computers, desks, TV, etc. And when using the bathroom.

* You have to moisturize dry hands from so much washing them because the molecules can hide in the micro cracks. The thicker the moisturizer, the better.

* Also keep your NAILS SHORT so that the virus does not hide there.

-JOHNS HOPKINS HOSPITAL



AND DON’T FORGET THE FUEL DISPENSING HANDLES!

Re: Information on viruses [Re: mikei] #7790259 03/30/20 05:56 PM
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Good stuff. Thanks for posting.


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Re: Information on viruses [Re: mikei] #7790302 03/30/20 06:33 PM
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Does anyone have a link to the original story? I do not see this article posted by any website I would consider reliable. Nor do I find any reference to an “Irene Ken” except as related to this.

Re: Information on viruses [Re: mikei] #7790306 03/30/20 06:36 PM
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Good post. Thanks.

Re: Information on viruses [Re: mikei] #7790323 03/30/20 06:49 PM
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False information. From Johns Hopkins:

“ This is not something produced by Johns Hopkins Medicine (JHM). We have seen rumors and misinformation about COVID-19 citing our experts and circulating on social media, and we have received several inquiries from the general public about these posts. We do not know their origin, and they lack credibility.”


"My grandfather told me that there are two kinds of people: those who work and those who take the credit. He also told me to try to be in the first group since there was much less competition."
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Originally Posted by The facts are...
” For starters, this list starts with the claim that COVID-19 is a protein molecule (DNA), but coronaviruses are RNA viruses which contain no DNA.

The list also claims that Listerine contains more alcohol than Vodka. This is not true. Most Listerine products contain 27% alcohol, resulting in an approximately 54-proof product. Vodka on the other hand typically contains 40% alcohol, which results in an 80-proof product. Neither of these items will effectively sanitize your hands. Soap should be your first choice, but the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) writes that if soap and water are not available, an alcohol-based sanitizer containing at least 60% alcohol (120 proof) can be used. Then wash with soap and water as soon as you can.

This list also states COVID-19 needs “moisture to stay stable, and especially darkness. Therefore, dehumidified, dry, warm and bright environments will degrade it faster.” But this has not been definitively proven. Although there is still a lot to learn about this new strain of coronavirus, the World Health Organization states that “the COVID-19 virus can be transmitted in ALL AREAS, including areas with hot and humid weather.”

To sum up: This viral “advice” did not originate with Johns Hopkins University and the information contained within lacks credibility. ”


So don’t rush out and buy Listerine...


"My grandfather told me that there are two kinds of people: those who work and those who take the credit. He also told me to try to be in the first group since there was much less competition."
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Originally Posted by pug
False information. From Johns Hopkins:

“ This is not something produced by Johns Hopkins Medicine (JHM). We have seen rumors and misinformation about COVID-19 citing our experts and circulating on social media, and we have received several inquiries from the general public about these posts. We do not know their origin, and they lack credibility.”



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Re: Information on viruses [Re: mikei] #7790464 03/30/20 09:00 PM
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You guys want to kill the messenger? cheers


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Re: Information on viruses [Re: ndhunter] #7790469 03/30/20 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ndhunter
Good post. Thanks.


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Re: Information on viruses [Re: mikei] #7790527 03/30/20 09:49 PM
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False information, not fact based, made up, possibly dangerous bs.

John Hopkins refutes

" Regardless of who penned the list, Johns Hopkins University told us such posts “lack credibility.”
We won’t go through each point, but we did find a few items on this list to be factually inaccurate. "

---> Snopes

" To sum up: This viral “advice” did not originate with Johns Hopkins University and the information contained within lacks credibility. "

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I did an extensive search for Irene Ken and trying to lend creedness to this information which has exploded on the internet. I did find this article which according to the website has the World Health Organization debunking some of it's claims. As with all things on the internet, this article may be just the same but I found it interesting.



https://www.factrakers.org/post/bus...76ZXnhKOFxsdV9WC68bwulLZ3HOhdxEdoIyGcdU0

Re: Information on viruses [Re: mikei] #7790617 03/30/20 11:12 PM
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Yeah I can tell you the points in the OP are false. Almost all of them. Don’t read this and think like warm water will
Kill a virus, which is totally false along with just about everything else in the OP

Re: Information on viruses [Re: Rustler] #7790623 03/30/20 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Rustler
False information, not fact based, made up, possibly dangerous bs.

John Hopkins refutes

" Regardless of who penned the list, Johns Hopkins University told us such posts “lack credibility.”
We won’t go through each point, but we did find a few items on this list to be factually inaccurate. "

---> Snopes

" To sum up: This viral “advice” did not originate with Johns Hopkins University and the information contained within lacks credibility. "


Can't be false. He found in on the Internet. You can take it to the bank if you find it on the Internet. Look it up.


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Re: Information on viruses [Re: mikei] #7790672 03/31/20 12:17 AM
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