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Re: Upgrading Hunting pants/Jacket- Need Advice [Re: txtrophy85] #7785003 03/25/20 06:37 PM
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The Clown is correct about the cotton. I do prefer that there Desert Night Camo jacket down here. There are all kinds of layers available and I do utilize them.

My issue with some of the things I have seen is just too much. While actively hunting, my body generates a lot of heat. When in the mountains, much of my hunting was on horseback and then on foot. I did wear long undies, merino wool socks, a flannel lined shirt and waterproof bibs. That would have been covered up with a green Columbia rain slicker and, of course, a hat. When sitting, glassing, resting or whatever (and especially when windy), I would pull on a neck gaiter over my head and down to below my chin. I could not walk with one on. If I needed to regulate my heat, the easiest way was to pull off my hat.

The only thing costly were the boots (400 grams of thinsulate) I wore. With my Eastman's subscription, I get to see tons of advertising from some of the higher priced, higher performing camo providers out there. I am certain it is all good stuff. I have been fortunate and can afford almost anything I desire. There is nothing wrong with buying the very top of the market. Nothing. I just don't normally do it. I had a tent collapse on me after a twelve inch snow during the night. That sucked, but I never got cold. Had none of the fancy stuff.

In addition to 1st hand experiences with all jazzed up paid hunters, I remember Johnson's favorite story and maybe it left me further jaded. An old buck went to take a nap and told a younger buck to be on lookout for hunters and other predators. Sometime during the nap, the younger buck spotted a hunter clad in expensive, state of the art camo with a nice, new, scoped rifle. He awakened the old buck and pointed him out. The older buck felt that hunter was nothing to be afraid of and admonished the younger buck for having awakened him. When the older buck went back to sleep and awoke again, he could see an old man moseying around in red & black flannel with a rusty, open sighted 30-30. The young buck noted he saw this hunter, but and considering his appearance, he was not concerned about him. The older buck immediately took off. When the younger buck caught up with him, the older buck got into him for not having pointed out what, to him, was a such a dangerous adversary.

I would not want anyone to put a trip at risk due to not being appropriately prepared. There was a lot game killed prior to the explosion of all this new gear.

Re: Upgrading Hunting pants/Jacket- Need Advice [Re: Hudbone] #7785017 03/25/20 06:51 PM
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^^^Sounds like good middle ground(or an olive branch). up


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Re: Upgrading Hunting pants/Jacket- Need Advice [Re: Hudbone] #7785022 03/25/20 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Hudbone
The Clown is correct about the cotton. I do prefer that there Desert Night Camo jacket down here. There are all kinds of layers available and I do utilize them.

My issue with some of the things I have seen is just too much. While actively hunting, my body generates a lot of heat. When in the mountains, much of my hunting was on horseback and then on foot. I did wear long undies, merino wool socks, a flannel lined shirt and waterproof bibs. That would have been covered up with a green Columbia rain slicker and, of course, a hat. When sitting, glassing, resting or whatever (and especially when windy), I would pull on a neck gaiter over my head and down to below my chin. I could not walk with one on. If I needed to regulate my heat, the easiest way was to pull off my hat.

The only thing costly were the boots (400 grams of thinsulate) I wore. With my Eastman's subscription, I get to see tons of advertising from some of the higher priced, higher performing camo providers out there. I am certain it is all good stuff. I have been fortunate and can afford almost anything I desire. There is nothing wrong with buying the very top of the market. Nothing. I just don't normally do it. I had a tent collapse on me after a twelve inch snow during the night. That sucked, but I never got cold. Had none of the fancy stuff.

In addition to 1st hand experiences with all jazzed up paid hunters, I remember Johnson's favorite story and maybe it left me further jaded. An old buck went to take a nap and told a younger buck to be on lookout for hunters and other predators. Sometime during the nap, the younger buck spotted a hunter clad in expensive, state of the art camo with a nice, new, scoped rifle. He awakened the old buck and pointed him out. The older buck felt that hunter was nothing to be afraid of and admonished the younger buck for having awakened him. When the older buck went back to sleep and awoke again, he could see an old man moseying around in red & black flannel with a rusty, open sighted 30-30. The young buck noted he saw this hunter, but and considering his appearance, he was not concerned about him. The older buck immediately took off. When the younger buck caught up with him, the older buck got into him for not having pointed out what, to him, was a such a dangerous adversary.

I would not want anyone to put a trip at risk due to not being appropriately prepared. There was a lot game killed prior to the explosion of all this new gear.




We are same page, you are correct you don’t have to have sitka or Kuiu, a lot of good options like Columbia, Mountain hardware,Prana, north face, etc out there..

With Kuiu/Sitka/Firstlite/Stone Glacier you are paying premium for features and the best technologies. Although the best may only be 10% better then it’s closet competition that’s 20% less $. It’s kind of like Swaro VS (Maven, Tract, Meopta, Upper end Luppy etc). With that said you know Kuiu Stika etc arent going to be donating to anti hunting groups that Patagonia or North Face might.



Donate to TX Youth hunting program.... better to donate then to waste it in taxes

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Re: Upgrading Hunting pants/Jacket- Need Advice [Re: txtrophy85] #7785035 03/25/20 07:05 PM
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I appreciate and well recognize the bino comparison.

Re: Upgrading Hunting pants/Jacket- Need Advice [Re: txtrophy85] #7785433 03/26/20 12:41 AM
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I'm not much of a camo guy. My two mainstay's for hunting pants are the Carhartt Ripstop pants, and KUHL Rydr. I just stick to dull colors.


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Re: Upgrading Hunting pants/Jacket- Need Advice [Re: Jgraider] #7792835 04/02/20 01:13 AM
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As others have said, Rokslide would be a great resource for you. They are much more focused on western hunting gear and clothes.

Re: Upgrading Hunting pants/Jacket- Need Advice [Re: txtrophy85] #7792945 04/02/20 03:30 AM
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You want some clothes that breath so when you sweat it makes it out to the surface of the fabric to evaporate. You need fabric that will keep you warm when wet and you need a wind blocking layer.
On a western hunt good chance it will be warm during the day and you'll need to take off layers to be comfortable while hiking in. After you hike in and work up a little sweat you'll hit the shade to cool down and rest , your layers will probably go back on in the shade.

Cotton will not keep you warm when wet but it does breath well, and that is a problem when its' chilly. You need material that will not chill you if damp.
When the sun goes down it will get colder fast. If you have on damp cotton clothes hypothermia is a real issue.
It doesn't have to be really cold to get hypothermia.

You don't have to spend a fortune on decent clothes. Look on Camofire and Black Ovis for deals. Might be quite the deals soon if things don'y change in regard to this virus. Last years models are probably on sale now.
You could very well get away with a pair of drab colored pants and camo for your top layers.

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