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Timber sale question #7779078 03/20/20 07:36 PM
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How much is an acre of mature pine worth , net after you pay the loggers ?

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I"d call 2 or 3 logging companies and ask them ---------- I got 1.5 million for 350 acres in La.,,, but that was a long time ago. I would be surprised if they could give you a price without inspecting the trees.

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I’m not looking for a specific quote - just generally . I have no knowledge of this but am considering buying in pine country

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Unless it gets cruised a ballpark figure would be hard to get. Pulpwood and saw logs go for different prices. There is also a market for some hardwood timber. If you are serious about purchasing the land then it would be worth it to hire someone to cruise it and give you an estimate of tonnage and they can give you a rough price for the timber.

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That is a simple question with a somewhat complicated answer. I was recently told that bare ground, basically a cutover having no timber, had a market value of $1500 to $2000 per acre. As Russ stated, you would need to get an estimate for the timber value. Right now, hardwood prices are much higher than pine. So the type and amount of timber would be a very significant factor. And, as with all real estate, location matters.

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Buddy of mine in SE Arkansas got $1400 per acre for mature pine timber about a year ago.

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There is a lot of companies that Have men that will inspect & actually watch the harvesting of your timber. They will give you an very close estimate of timber. These companies cost about 6-8% of the total but you will come out with more money in your pocket by using them. Loggers have numerous ways of making extra dollars off your timber without you knowing it. We have a Texas A&M office here in Pittsburg that can give you a list of several companies. I think the number is 903-856-7181. Assuming they are open due to the virus.





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DLALLDER - thank you. I will definitely call them

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15-1,700 an acre and Dlander is right about hiring a timber management guy.
Mine charges 8%.


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Timber prices depend on several factors. One of the major ones is how far you are from the sawmill. So the per acre price that you'll get literally changes by the mile. The farther you are from the mill the less it's worth.
Texas A&M tracks timber prices and has done so for years......link below. Right now, there are several factors driving timber prices down: newspaper mills are almost gone, the timber companies dumped a lot of timber on the market, and there was a lot of planting 20 years ago. The last forrester I talked to said the prices might improve between 2035 and 2040.

Next, the type of timber makes a difference......diameter, straightness, density per acre. Then, you have how many acres you have...."small" is relative. 2,000 acres, they'll find you. Trying to cut 30 acres? Good luck if they call you back. The harvesters like to park their equipment for a long time and cut, rather than having to move it often. Then, is it natural timber, allowed to grow naturally? Or plantation pine grown from improved tree seedlings? Next, they prefer trees about 18 inches diameter and larger. Less diameter than that and they're not worth much.

Next, an individual really can't expect to sell it unless you're in the business. Even if you lived next door to the mill, they'll take advantage of you because you don't know what you're doing selling it. So you have to hire a forester to broker the timber for you.

So all that said, you're question is sort of like asking "how much is an average car worth?". It depends. But in a ballpark, if you have naturally-grown forest, you might get $20 to $25 per tree, which might add up to $500 to $1,000 per acre. In a thick plantation pine that has been thinned properly, you might get $3,000 to $5,000 per acre.



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Is timber pricing related to TP?? grin

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Too many variables to answer your question. What’s is “mature”, average rotation for pine in east Texas is 30 years. What’s the site index? What’s the stand density? Has it been thinned? If so how many times? Was it a planted plantation or natural regeneration? What’s is saw timber currently going for?

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all the above is spot on, even if you do not hire a forester to handle the land/timber management aspect, if it is a sizeable acreage, at least do yourself the favor of hiring a timber cruiser, depending on acreage once again, will be a couple thousand well spent. But then again, you are dependent on loggers that you hire to merchandise your timber by top size, which will cost you money. we need more details. IMO you are probably looking at 1-1500/acre very generally speaking. Not a lot of bigger mature/native type tracts left. But if you have that, or a decent hardwood tract, you cant get up to 2500+ per acre.

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