Watched this deer that I’m guessing to be a 3 year old (maybe) Located in Cass County. I wouldn’t let me son shoot him he was upset at first until I explained to him he has the opportunity to be something special in a few years.
The way I explained it to my daughter was that we have an abundance of food to eat at our choosing so let’s wait to kill deer until they are mature........
Am I the only one on the son's side? If its a lifetime memory for your son "as is" then why?
No.
I have mixed emotions. I wouldn't make an age call from that shot.
I wasn't raised shooting mature bucks and I don't think I will start mine that way either. They will likely shoot a hog before a deer a doe before a buck, and their first buck will be some form of cull/management buck. After that luck will probably have more to do with it than anything.
Good for the OP that he is outdoors with his kiddo and the kiddo Is having fun and happy to be there.
Am I the only one on the son's side? If its a lifetime memory for your son "as is" then why?
No.
I have mixed emotions. I wouldn't make an age call from that shot.
I wasn't raised shooting mature bucks and I don't think I will start mine that way either. They will likely shoot a hog before a deer a doe before a buck, and their first buck will be some form of cull/management buck. After that luck will probably have more to do with it than anything.
Good for the OP that he is outdoors with his kiddo and the kiddo Is having fun and happy to be there.
"I can't be over gunned because the animal can't be over dead"-Elmer Keith 10/30/2012 I VOTED for The American
Don't agree especially if it were to be the boys first buck. You have planted a good seed for him to consider going forward. Hope the neighbor does not get him.
Deer looks older than 3 but probably younger than 4.5/5 so not a bad call if that is in line with the ranch harvest standards. If it were my kid, I'd probably have a difficult time not letting him take it for his first though.
Am I the only one on the son's side? If its a lifetime memory for your son "as is" then why?
No.
I have mixed emotions. I wouldn't make an age call from that shot.
I wasn't raised shooting mature bucks and I don't think I will start mine that way either. They will likely shoot a hog before a deer a doe before a buck, and their first buck will be some form of cull/management buck. After that luck will probably have more to do with it than anything.
Good for the OP that he is outdoors with his kiddo and the kiddo Is having fun and happy to be there.
As my kids are getting older I tend to look back on certain events and wish I would have had the same perspective as I currently do. I often catch myself thinking, was it really that important. I also think deer hunting has gotten really out of control when it comes to management, and its provided fewer opportunities to create memories.
No idea as to this kids age, lease rules, ect… but if the only thing keeping the kid from shooting this deer was someone guessing 3.5 years old. I am in favor of the kid pulling the trigger.
Am I the only one on the son's side? If its a lifetime memory for your son "as is" then why?
No.
I have mixed emotions. I wouldn't make an age call from that shot.
I wasn't raised shooting mature bucks and I don't think I will start mine that way either. They will likely shoot a hog before a deer a doe before a buck, and their first buck will be some form of cull/management buck. After that luck will probably have more to do with it than anything.
Good for the OP that he is outdoors with his kiddo and the kiddo Is having fun and happy to be there.
As my kids are getting older I tend to look back on certain events and wish I would have had the same perspective as I currently do. I often catch myself thinking, was it really that important. I also think deer hunting has gotten really out of control when it comes to management, and its provided fewer opportunities to create memories.
No idea as to this kids age, lease rules, ect… but if the only thing keeping the kid from shooting this deer was someone guessing 3.5 years old. I am in favor of the kid pulling the trigger.
Same here, assuming it was kids first buck. If OP's son already has 2 or 3 bucks under his belt, then sure.
The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference. -George Washington
If one of my boys want to shoot I say go ahead. We try to kill something every time we sit in a stand. If they want to wait for a bigger deer they can. Killing stuff is fun for kids, watching and wondering what they’ll grow into next year is not. They know they only get to kill one buck. It’s up to them. I don’t like sitting in a deer stand and haven’t shot a deer in years but my youngest loves watching deer and I get a kick out of watching him decide who lives and who dies. My oldest will shoot whatever walks up first and is happy. They all eat good but I prefer young doe.
Depends on what kind of buck deer are shot where you hunt. Where I hunt bucks are given a pass till mature. I brought my son up hunting that way and managed to get him on a mature buck most every year. I see both sides of it. None of the big ones ate as good as a young deer unless ground up. For a college junior though, he has amassed a pretty good bone pile that reflect some great memories.
Too many unknown variables by OP to make comment on decision other than I bet the neighbors really like your decision and hope he made it through the season for then next couple years
IMO you are neither right nor wrong with regard to killing or letting the buck live - as long as you have conviction in your beliefs you are teaching your son to THINK about the decision to take the life of another living creature. That is the lesson he hopefully will take away. In the grand scheme of things one deer will not impact your management plan anyway.
Hard to call an age with a frontal photo. Looks younger than 4.5 to me with that limited view. If this was NOT your son's 1st buck - I agree to pass as long as he is as young as we all expect. If this would have been your son's 1st buck - size never matters except to those that see the photo after the fact. If it were my son's first buck, we would enjoy a 4-point just as much as we'd enjoy a monster. I am certainly NOT telling you one way or the other. Bottom line - it is the experience and the time together that needs to be protected. Enjoy the time with your son while you have it.
Am I the only one on the son's side? If its a lifetime memory for your son "as is" then why?
You're not alone. My Brother made my nephew wait when he had 3 nice bucks at the feeder. He was 12 years old. He has never hunted since. Would it have made a difference in his case? Who knows. He was into hunting until he was told he needed to hold off. These were mature bucks too. Said he wanted him to shoot a "cull" for his first.
Life is too short, as is. Don't chance it. Don't text and drive.