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is the .223 bolt gun dead???? #7752604 02/21/20 05:08 PM
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I sold my near and dear M700 5R bolt rifle. I now want to replace it, not sure why but I have SO MUCH .223 "stuff" !!! and most of you know, I'm selling my AR-15. don't criticize, but I have no use for it anymore.

The only .223 bolt gun which has me interested is the Christensen MPR chassis rifle @ around $2,000. Sako is not importing any of their new bolt guns in .223 neither is Tikka.

I DONT want a traditional bolt gun which is currently available, believe me I've seen them ALL. No Tikka T3 Varmints please, too heavy

I do like the CZ Varmint but barrel is too long. Want to stay at around 7#.

I have me .22 Creedmoor, so, I should just be happy, guess that's what I'll do.

may cruise over to Alamo and pick through their parts bin, see what I could get Robert to put together.

Just nothing very interesting in .223 anymore. confused2


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Re: is the .223 bolt gun dead???? [Re: Buzzsaw] #7752619 02/21/20 05:24 PM
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I want a nice 223 bolt action trainer. Either a Tikka Tac or Tikka Varmint or semi-custom built on a Tikka action. I have a CTR in .308 but the bolt face won't work with a 223 build.

Re: is the .223 bolt gun dead???? [Re: Buzzsaw] #7752627 02/21/20 05:37 PM
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Re: is the .223 bolt gun dead???? [Re: Buzzsaw] #7752630 02/21/20 05:42 PM
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You had one of the better shooting .223's I've seen and you sold it....anything you've done or will do since putting it on the market has been a mistake.

Move on...


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Re: is the .223 bolt gun dead???? [Re: QuitShootinYoungBucks] #7752637 02/21/20 05:53 PM
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Re: is the .223 bolt gun dead???? [Re: Judd] #7752639 02/21/20 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Judd
You had one of the better shooting .223's I've seen and you sold it....anything you've done or will do since putting it on the market has been a mistake.

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Re: is the .223 bolt gun dead???? [Re: Buzzsaw] #7752654 02/21/20 06:12 PM
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Piece one together and do it with the correct twist unlike 99% of the box guns.


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Re: is the .223 bolt gun dead???? [Re: Buzzsaw] #7752693 02/21/20 06:47 PM
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My wife's 223 varmint tikka is one of our favorite guns, and I mean both of us. I met my wife around 10 years ago at a time I started trying longer range shooting with a varmint 22-250. She wanted to try a little and I directed her to a 223 bolt gun and she decided on it being a Tikka varmint. We've both shot it a ton over the next few years. Fast forward about 3-4 more years of having babies, I am almost rediscovering this rifle during my reloading adventure. Great platform for me to test all sort of techniques and/or components of reloading.

Best guess, maybe about 1500 rounds through our and I'm probably going to keep going until I've either figured out literally everything there is to know about reloading or ware out the barrel.
In case you can't tell, I love 223 bolt guns. Even considering another in a light, 16" version .

Re: is the .223 bolt gun dead???? [Re: Buzzsaw] #7752695 02/21/20 06:49 PM
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Love my Model 7 Remington. Has killed many critters over the past 30 years.


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Haven't had it in years but never spit any out.
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I have a left-hand Ruger GSR in 5.56 and love it. Don't get me wrong, the only time it has ever been on a bench was the initial sighting. I do not run a scout scope on that rifle, just a 1.5-8 in the traditional mounting position. It would probably never make a bench rifle and that is fine with me. It is my 2nd favorite rifle to carry in the brush.

Re: is the .223 bolt gun dead???? [Re: Buzzsaw] #7752846 02/21/20 09:35 PM
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My little CZ 527 premium 223 gets carried a lot, handy little rifle,

223 bolt action is far from dead, too much cheap ammo and too much fun.

Re: is the .223 bolt gun dead???? [Re: Buzzsaw] #7752864 02/21/20 09:52 PM
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I have 2 of them a Ruger M77 Mark II sitting at the back door for the coyote in the morning and a Remington 700 BDL heavy barrel love em both. The M77 rides in the SXS a lot with me. Both guns I've had for years.

Re: is the .223 bolt gun dead???? [Re: Buzzsaw] #7752880 02/21/20 10:02 PM
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Buzz shot your Remington today and it shoots awesome. Hardly any wind. Thanks again.

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Originally Posted by snake oil
Buzz shot your Remington today and it shoots awesome. Hardly any wind. Thanks again.

you are most welcome my friend, friend, friend, friend, friend ...............dang , i am cra !!! loco

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Re: is the .223 bolt gun dead???? [Re: Buzzsaw] #7752969 02/21/20 11:37 PM
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Build one off a stiller action with a brux 7 or 7.5” twist in a #4 contour with a AI mag in a light fill mcmillan and a bixnandy trigger, with a 20 moa rail, and throw a 4-32x NX8 on that pig and hang on to it.. shoot the 75 grain amax over a full case of Varget or N140

Re: is the .223 bolt gun dead???? [Re: Buzzsaw] #7752977 02/21/20 11:43 PM
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Just a suggestion. Probably about $3000 less than you want to spend but it has a fast twist.

https://www.budsgunshop.com/product_info.php/products_id/49182


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Re: is the .223 bolt gun dead???? [Re: CCBIRDDOGMAN] #7752992 02/21/20 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by CCBIRDDOGMAN
Love my Model 7 Remington. Has killed many critters over the past 30 years.


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Re: is the .223 bolt gun dead???? [Re: Buzzsaw] #7753009 02/22/20 12:11 AM
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I really liked that gun you built, Buzz, it was beautiful. I almost bought it from you, too. I can’t dog you for selling it as I sold the first AR I built. It had an 18” 1:7.5 twist 5.56 polygonal barrel made by pac nor for noveske and it was incredible. It ran like a sewing machine, and the groups I got from it(or should I say ragged hole) were amazing. I’ve kicked myself for letting it go many times. It shot everything well, but really liked the heavier 75 & 77 grain Sierra matchking BTHP’s. Go build you another one up

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I have a Tikka T-3 in .222 with whatever their nice wood stock was called. Perhaps forrester? Topped it with a Meopta 3.5x10. This has a sporter barrel and is light weight. It is very accurate. Buzz, if you bought one of these you could throw some extra money at new dies and some Lapua brass!

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have several Remington 700, browning abolts,mossberg mvp,weatherby and love them all and they all shoot lights out .

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Buy a Tikka T3x super light in 223, take it to Chad or his favorite gunsmith in Dallas, have a heavier contour fluted 20” barrel put on it, and keep,it and shoot it.

But, before you do that, you probably need to give some thought as to why you want or need a new rifle, and will a new one satisfy you even if you spend thousands.


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Buzz, I've got a Rem 700 and Savage Axis I'll sell you. They both will shoot and won't loose $$$ when you sell them.

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Re: is the .223 bolt gun dead???? [Re: Buzzsaw] #7753081 02/22/20 01:28 AM
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I've said it to Buzz before and I'll say it again...

Quit switching things up. Get a few really good rifles, put in the time to make them shoot as good as they can, shoot them a ton, and enjoy.

Live with it, and become a better hand loader and shooter.

.223 is far from dead. Probably never will be. Bolt action .223 is one of the best cartridges to practice shooting. and varmint kill the planet has ever seen.

Punches outside its' weight class, and is probably the most economical centerfire rifle cartridge in existence.


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Originally Posted by FiremanJG
I've said it to Buzz before and I'll say it again...

Quit switching things up. Get a few really good rifles, put in the time to make them shoot as good as they can, shoot them a ton, and enjoy.

Live with it, and become a better hand loader and shooter.

.223 is far from dead. Probably never will be. Bolt action .223 is one of the best cartridges to practice shooting. and varmint kill the planet has ever seen.

Punches outside its' weight class, and is probably the most economical centerfire rifle cartridge in existence.


Wise words right here.

I used to think that I did a bunch of unnecessary gun trading...but I don't seem to have ever held a candle to Buzz!

Pick one that shows promise and spend the quality time to let it show you it's colors. The .223 in a good bolt rifle is a force to be reckoned with!

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