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is the .223 bolt gun dead????
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02/21/20 05:08 PM
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Buzzsaw
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I sold my near and dear M700 5R bolt rifle. I now want to replace it, not sure why but I have SO MUCH .223 "stuff" !!! and most of you know, I'm selling my AR-15. don't criticize, but I have no use for it anymore. The only .223 bolt gun which has me interested is the Christensen MPR chassis rifle @ around $2,000. Sako is not importing any of their new bolt guns in .223 neither is Tikka. I DONT want a traditional bolt gun which is currently available, believe me I've seen them ALL. No Tikka T3 Varmints please, too heavy I do like the CZ Varmint but barrel is too long. Want to stay at around 7#. I have me .22 Creedmoor, so, I should just be happy, guess that's what I'll do. may cruise over to Alamo and pick through their parts bin, see what I could get Robert to put together. Just nothing very interesting in .223 anymore.
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Re: is the .223 bolt gun dead????
[Re: Buzzsaw]
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02/21/20 05:24 PM
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huck18
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I want a nice 223 bolt action trainer. Either a Tikka Tac or Tikka Varmint or semi-custom built on a Tikka action. I have a CTR in .308 but the bolt face won't work with a 223 build.
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Re: is the .223 bolt gun dead????
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02/21/20 05:37 PM
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QuitShootinYoungBucks
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Re: is the .223 bolt gun dead????
[Re: Buzzsaw]
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02/21/20 05:42 PM
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Judd
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You had one of the better shooting .223's I've seen and you sold it....anything you've done or will do since putting it on the market has been a mistake.
Move on...
Don't let your ears hear what your eyes didn't see, and don't let your mouth say what your heart doesn't feel
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Re: is the .223 bolt gun dead????
[Re: QuitShootinYoungBucks]
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02/21/20 05:53 PM
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redchevy
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I think you may truly have a problem.
It's hell eatin em live
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Re: is the .223 bolt gun dead????
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02/21/20 05:54 PM
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J.G.
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You had one of the better shooting .223's I've seen and you sold it....anything you've done or will do since putting it on the market has been a mistake.
Move on...
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Re: is the .223 bolt gun dead????
[Re: Buzzsaw]
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02/21/20 06:12 PM
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dee
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Piece one together and do it with the correct twist unlike 99% of the box guns.
"A vote is like a rifle; it's usefulness depends on the character of the user" Theodore Roosevelt
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Re: is the .223 bolt gun dead????
[Re: Buzzsaw]
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02/21/20 06:47 PM
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Korean Redneck
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My wife's 223 varmint tikka is one of our favorite guns, and I mean both of us. I met my wife around 10 years ago at a time I started trying longer range shooting with a varmint 22-250. She wanted to try a little and I directed her to a 223 bolt gun and she decided on it being a Tikka varmint. We've both shot it a ton over the next few years. Fast forward about 3-4 more years of having babies, I am almost rediscovering this rifle during my reloading adventure. Great platform for me to test all sort of techniques and/or components of reloading.
Best guess, maybe about 1500 rounds through our and I'm probably going to keep going until I've either figured out literally everything there is to know about reloading or ware out the barrel. In case you can't tell, I love 223 bolt guns. Even considering another in a light, 16" version .
I'm a dude who likes long barrels!
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Re: is the .223 bolt gun dead????
[Re: Buzzsaw]
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02/21/20 06:49 PM
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CCBIRDDOGMAN
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Love my Model 7 Remington. Has killed many critters over the past 30 years.
Haven't had it in years but never spit any out. I am a sucker for happy endings and strapped cowboys.
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Re: is the .223 bolt gun dead????
[Re: Buzzsaw]
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02/21/20 08:49 PM
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I have a left-hand Ruger GSR in 5.56 and love it. Don't get me wrong, the only time it has ever been on a bench was the initial sighting. I do not run a scout scope on that rifle, just a 1.5-8 in the traditional mounting position. It would probably never make a bench rifle and that is fine with me. It is my 2nd favorite rifle to carry in the brush.
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Re: is the .223 bolt gun dead????
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02/21/20 09:35 PM
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kmon11
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My little CZ 527 premium 223 gets carried a lot, handy little rifle,
223 bolt action is far from dead, too much cheap ammo and too much fun.
lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true Mainstream news might be fun to watch
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Re: is the .223 bolt gun dead????
[Re: Buzzsaw]
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02/21/20 09:52 PM
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I have 2 of them a Ruger M77 Mark II sitting at the back door for the coyote in the morning and a Remington 700 BDL heavy barrel love em both. The M77 rides in the SXS a lot with me. Both guns I've had for years.
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Re: is the .223 bolt gun dead????
[Re: Buzzsaw]
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02/21/20 10:02 PM
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Buzz shot your Remington today and it shoots awesome. Hardly any wind. Thanks again.
"You may all go to hell and I will go to Texas".
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Re: is the .223 bolt gun dead????
[Re: snake oil]
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02/21/20 10:52 PM
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Buzzsaw
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Buzz shot your Remington today and it shoots awesome. Hardly any wind. Thanks again. you are most welcome my friend, friend, friend, friend, friend ...............dang , i am cra !!!
Last edited by Buzzsaw; 02/21/20 10:53 PM.
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Re: is the .223 bolt gun dead????
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02/21/20 11:37 PM
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Build one off a stiller action with a brux 7 or 7.5” twist in a #4 contour with a AI mag in a light fill mcmillan and a bixnandy trigger, with a 20 moa rail, and throw a 4-32x NX8 on that pig and hang on to it.. shoot the 75 grain amax over a full case of Varget or N140
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Re: is the .223 bolt gun dead????
[Re: CCBIRDDOGMAN]
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02/21/20 11:55 PM
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Love my Model 7 Remington. Has killed many critters over the past 30 years. X's 2
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Re: is the .223 bolt gun dead????
[Re: Buzzsaw]
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02/22/20 12:11 AM
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I really liked that gun you built, Buzz, it was beautiful. I almost bought it from you, too. I can’t dog you for selling it as I sold the first AR I built. It had an 18” 1:7.5 twist 5.56 polygonal barrel made by pac nor for noveske and it was incredible. It ran like a sewing machine, and the groups I got from it(or should I say ragged hole) were amazing. I’ve kicked myself for letting it go many times. It shot everything well, but really liked the heavier 75 & 77 grain Sierra matchking BTHP’s. Go build you another one
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Re: is the .223 bolt gun dead????
[Re: Buzzsaw]
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02/22/20 12:24 AM
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I have a Tikka T-3 in .222 with whatever their nice wood stock was called. Perhaps forrester? Topped it with a Meopta 3.5x10. This has a sporter barrel and is light weight. It is very accurate. Buzz, if you bought one of these you could throw some extra money at new dies and some Lapua brass!
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Re: is the .223 bolt gun dead????
[Re: Buzzsaw]
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02/22/20 12:31 AM
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breadman
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have several Remington 700, browning abolts,mossberg mvp,weatherby and love them all and they all shoot lights out .
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Re: is the .223 bolt gun dead????
[Re: Buzzsaw]
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02/22/20 01:10 AM
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Buy a Tikka T3x super light in 223, take it to Chad or his favorite gunsmith in Dallas, have a heavier contour fluted 20” barrel put on it, and keep,it and shoot it.
But, before you do that, you probably need to give some thought as to why you want or need a new rifle, and will a new one satisfy you even if you spend thousands.
Not my monkeys, not my circus...
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Re: is the .223 bolt gun dead????
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02/22/20 01:22 AM
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Big Fitz
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Buzz, I've got a Rem 700 and Savage Axis I'll sell you. They both will shoot and won't loose $$$ when you sell them.
Last edited by Big Fitz; 02/22/20 01:43 AM.
I was wrong...on anything technical. Fitz............. is right, ya know............
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Re: is the .223 bolt gun dead????
[Re: Buzzsaw]
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02/22/20 01:28 AM
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I've said it to Buzz before and I'll say it again...
Quit switching things up. Get a few really good rifles, put in the time to make them shoot as good as they can, shoot them a ton, and enjoy.
Live with it, and become a better hand loader and shooter.
.223 is far from dead. Probably never will be. Bolt action .223 is one of the best cartridges to practice shooting. and varmint kill the planet has ever seen.
Punches outside its' weight class, and is probably the most economical centerfire rifle cartridge in existence.
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Re: is the .223 bolt gun dead????
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02/22/20 01:54 AM
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I've said it to Buzz before and I'll say it again...
Quit switching things up. Get a few really good rifles, put in the time to make them shoot as good as they can, shoot them a ton, and enjoy.
Live with it, and become a better hand loader and shooter.
.223 is far from dead. Probably never will be. Bolt action .223 is one of the best cartridges to practice shooting. and varmint kill the planet has ever seen.
Punches outside its' weight class, and is probably the most economical centerfire rifle cartridge in existence. Wise words right here. I used to think that I did a bunch of unnecessary gun trading...but I don't seem to have ever held a candle to Buzz! Pick one that shows promise and spend the quality time to let it show you it's colors. The .223 in a good bolt rifle is a force to be reckoned with! Mark
"I always take care to fire into the nearest hillside and, lacking that, into darkness". - the late Dr. Hunter S. Thompson
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Re: is the .223 bolt gun dead????
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02/22/20 02:01 AM
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