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Re: The virus [Re: bill oxner] #7745419 02/14/20 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by bill oxner
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And, we still have flu shot deniers.


Your free flu shot won't keep you from getting this.



But, but, but, people said the same about the flu shot. Let me rephrase.

Will you take the shot for the virus. When not if it becomes available? confused2


If I was foolish enough to be going to China then yes.

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heck those flu shot takers may be the first to get the china man virus. Your immune system has not naturally fought off the bug and built up its resistance naturally. A new china man bug comes in to the picture and well....


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Originally Posted by Tin Head
heck those flu shot takers may be the first to get the china man virus. Your immune system has not naturally fought off the bug and built up its resistance naturally. A new china man bug comes in to the picture and well....

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Re: The virus [Re: pegasaurus] #7745467 02/14/20 01:39 AM
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[quote=bill oxner]And, we still have flu shot deniers.


There is no shot for this virus. [/quote
Even if there was a coronavirus shot there would be some that would not get it.


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Re: The virus [Re: pegasaurus] #7745470 02/14/20 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by pegasaurus
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And, we still have flu shot deniers.


There is no shot for this virus.

Are you sure there is no shot? Being this virus looks to have been created in the lab, what are the odds that they were also woking on a vaccine for their troops. It does no good to have a germ warfare bug unless you can keep your armed forces well to invade and defeat the survivors.

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Originally Posted by Old Rabbit
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And, we still have flu shot deniers.


There is no shot for this virus.

Are you sure there is no shot? Being this virus looks to have been created in the lab, what are the odds that they were also woking on a vaccine for their troops. It does no good to have a germ warfare bug unless you can keep your armed forces well to invade and defeat the survivors.


There may be some truth there but if that is the case... Do you really think China would give anyone, especially the US, the vaccination??

That said, I am positive it is not available at CVS.


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Re: The virus [Re: rolyat.nosaj] #7745529 02/14/20 02:40 AM
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Here are the numbers, no one is resistant, 330 million people, a 60 to 80 percent infection rate, 20% require hospitalization, 2% die. This is the worst case scenario in the USA. We need to be very concerned.


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Re: The virus [Re: nsmike] #7745556 02/14/20 03:03 AM
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Here are the numbers, no one is resistant, 330 million people, a 60 to 80 percent infection rate, 20% require hospitalization, 2% die. This is the worst case scenario in the USA. We need to be very concerned.

About twice the percentage that died in the 1918 flu epidemic.


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Well this ought to get the “healthcare for all” campaign kicked off.
Think about that ...


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They would nuke us if they could


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Originally Posted by Old Rabbit
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Originally Posted by bill oxner
And, we still have flu shot deniers.


There is no shot for this virus.

Are you sure there is no shot? Being this virus looks to have been created in the lab, what are the odds that they were also woking on a vaccine for their troops. It does no good to have a germ warfare bug unless you can keep your armed forces well to invade and defeat the survivors.



Tell me more about the virus being created in a lab.


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Quote



Tell me more about the virus being created in a lab.


The bits that I've seen go in a couple directions. (I believe neither)

The theory goes that a professor hired by the Chinese govt smuggled it out of Canada if memory serves me correctly. Or something along those lines.
This guy -> https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/02/03/harv-f03.html

Another has to do with the sequencing matching another virus. Way above my pay grade to comment.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC538593/
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/01/200131114748.htm
https://www.businessinsider.com/wuhan-coronavirus-genome-close-to-sars-originated-in-bats-2020-2

As I understand it the opening theory started at bats, went to snakes, now we're at pangolins.
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/ar...s-may-have-spread-the-disease-to-humans.


I find these guys pretty interesting as they have lived in China for a while.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zg8q5wHfok Interview starts around 23:00

Here's a previous video that gives some insight to the 'wet markets' and how disgusting/unsanitary they are.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk5XkhUKMDM Skip to around 32:00 if you want the quick details.

Last one, if you've got the stomach. Check out gutter oil. Another great disease vector!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp92BlLLVEI

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Originally Posted by Tin Head
They would nuke us if they could

Maybe they just did


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Re: The virus [Re: decook] #7746071 02/14/20 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by decook
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They would nuke us if they could

Maybe they just did


Tin foil hats, anyone?

Re: The virus [Re: sweetwood] #7746089 02/14/20 06:46 PM
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Tell me more about the virus being created in a lab.


The bits that I've seen go in a couple directions. (I believe neither)

The theory goes that a professor hired by the Chinese govt smuggled it out of Canada if memory serves me correctly. Or something along those lines.
This guy -> https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/02/03/harv-f03.html

Another has to do with the sequencing matching another virus. Way above my pay grade to comment.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC538593/
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/01/200131114748.htm
https://www.businessinsider.com/wuhan-coronavirus-genome-close-to-sars-originated-in-bats-2020-2

As I understand it the opening theory started at bats, went to snakes, now we're at pangolins.
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/ar...s-may-have-spread-the-disease-to-humans.


I find these guys pretty interesting as they have lived in China for a while.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zg8q5wHfok Interview starts around 23:00

Here's a previous video that gives some insight to the 'wet markets' and how disgusting/unsanitary they are.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk5XkhUKMDM Skip to around 32:00 if you want the quick details.

Last one, if you've got the stomach. Check out gutter oil. Another great disease vector!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp92BlLLVEI





Lots of nasty places and circumstances in China that would provide a good environment to mutate. The flus we have today mutate into different strains that appear like a cousin to the original.


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Something like 15-20 years ago, I watched a show on how a virus jumped from bats, to pigs, to humans. It did some major damage in Asia. I dont think it made it to the level of human to human. Viruses have been a big part of human history, and will continue to be. Not ready to make the jump to lab made bioweapon. I watched a show yesterday that explains how our DNA is made up of 8% ancient viruses. The once deadly retroviruses actually help us in our development in the womb.

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Originally Posted by pegasaurus
Someone explain why this is more of an emergency than any other respiratory virus?


That's the $64,000 question. Why are 11 military bases being prepared as quarantine centers in the US, when the doublespeak is that this is not as bad as the flu.

I don't know the answers, but asking the right questions will get us closer.


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Originally Posted by Mike W
Originally Posted by pegasaurus
Someone explain why this is more of an emergency than any other respiratory virus?


That's the $64,000 question. Why are 11 military bases being prepared as quarantine centers in the US, when the doublespeak is that this is not as bad as the flu.

I don't know the answers, but asking the right questions will get us closer.


New, and unknown. Extreme caution until we know more.

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Originally Posted by Mike W
Originally Posted by pegasaurus
Someone explain why this is more of an emergency than any other respiratory virus?


That's the $64,000 question. Why are 11 military bases being prepared as quarantine centers in the US, when the doublespeak is that this is not as bad as the flu.

I don't know the answers, but asking the right questions will get us closer.


From what I have read most of the military bases are already in use, and the only thing that has been done is keep the quarantined people separated from the rest of the people. In short, separated, but nothing special.


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It's kind of like the weather overreaction. Err on the side of caution.


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and yet no one questions the timing of all this....


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Originally Posted by dogcatcher
From what I have read most of the military bases are already in use, and the only thing that has been done is keep the quarantined people separated from the rest of the people. In short, separated, but nothing special.

Except for the daily symptom check, which is followed by evacuation to a civilian hospital for isolation, if positive.


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heard today another scenario that could be possible. With all the recent chinese supporting the new American administration and waiving American flags protesting in the streets , china is using the flu as cover to eliminate dissidents. There is video , dont know how true , of soldiers shooting the "sick" in the streets.


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Originally Posted by Tin Head
heard today another scenario that could be possible. With all the recent chinese supporting the new American administration and waiving American flags protesting in the streets , china is using the flu as cover to eliminate dissidents. There is video , dont know how true , of soldiers shooting the "sick" in the streets.

That would not be surprising, given the regime.


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