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Re: Oddball/wildcat calibers [Re: TKandMike] #7745479 02/14/20 01:59 AM
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Mine is about to be my 7mm SAUM it’s not really a wildcat but it’s not that common in my parts 😎

Re: Oddball/wildcat calibers [Re: TKandMike] #7745642 02/14/20 04:52 AM
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17 Mach II, 17 Remington, 5mm Rem Mag, 22 short, 218 Bee, 22-243. 25-20, 257 Roberts, 6.5X54MS, 6.5X57, 6.5-284, 7mmTCU, 7mmSTW, 338 Federal, 350 Remington Mag, 375 Win, 38-55 Win, 45-70, 50BMG... I do tend to like some odd ball or old cartridges.

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Originally Posted by garyrapp55
Somewhat oddball in today's environment but not wildcat, 7.65ARG, cause Papa had one.


I've got one. 1891 Argentine Mauser. Beautiful rifle and surprisingly accurate. Its the smoothest bolt action military surplus I've handled. The bolt is very Remington 700ish.



Re: Oddball/wildcat calibers [Re: TKandMike] #7745660 02/14/20 05:32 AM
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I've got my dad's custom FN Mauser in 6.5-06. Great round.



Re: Oddball/wildcat calibers [Re: TKandMike] #7745666 02/14/20 05:58 AM
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Re: Oddball/wildcat calibers [Re: TKandMike] #7745670 02/14/20 06:30 AM
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Not wildcat but pretty sure they qualify as oddball, 256 Winchester and 7-30 Waters. And 16ga.

Re: Oddball/wildcat calibers [Re: TKandMike] #7745734 02/14/20 12:58 PM
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25-45 Sharps. Simple barrel change and 5.56 brass resize, same mags, bolt. 70 grain Sierra Blitzkings @ 3000 fps. If I had it to do over, I would have built a 6x45 instead. More bullets to choose from in 6mm over .257.

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Originally Posted by Bar-D
25-45 Sharps. Simple barrel change and 5.56 brass resize, same mags, bolt. 70 grain Sierra Blitzkings @ 3000 fps. If I had it to do over, I would have built a 6x45 instead. More bullets to choose from in 6mm over .257.


100% agree .... I have had several 6x45mm and still have one bolt rifle and one AR. I too built a wildcat 6.8SPC necked to 25 caliber and while it’s an excellent pig and deer rifle limited bullet selection would always make me recommend to others go 6mm over 25.


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Re: Oddball/wildcat calibers [Re: TKandMike] #7745768 02/14/20 01:33 PM
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I'm contemplating a 6.5 Timberwolf or a .270 Savage in a falling-block action for an ultra light & short deer rifle. up


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Re: Oddball/wildcat calibers [Re: TKandMike] #7745791 02/14/20 01:53 PM
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I’ve housed about a dozen wildcats - only currently feed and care for 2 - not because they are my favorite but rather just the latest ones I tried.

I’ve drifted away from some due to magazine feeding problems or limitations to rounds you can carry

Others have been excused because I can’t trust to let friends and family have access to them because if you read the headstamps on the brass they don’t know it isn’t as advertised.

The reloading data is usually very hard to find - even the “designers” of the round don’t have all the safe loads aspects fully vetted. After I blew up a gun I was asked for my load data and provided it and was promptly told I was way above max. I submitted my load data source which was his spreadsheet he gave me and he said well you got to work up (which I had) , so his spreadsheet was flat wrong...

One that I currently have is getting spayed and neutered soon, designers said they chose a particular calibers parent brass because it was strong and that they are getting up to 10 reloads out of it. Well I spend the dough, (that’s the other thing - wildcats ain’t cheap) on a large quantity of brass because it’s one of those cases that Hornady runs only so often and you can only buy it from a sole source now and blah blah blah. So I now have 200+ cases of what ended up being a “soft batch” of brass that lasts 2 firings and is primer pocket dead.

Another interesting wildcat story that actually comes from a Saami caliber is 6.5 Grendel . oMG what a way to screw up a sweet little caliber by introducing new bolt specs and chamber dimensions!!! That has to be the wildcat mating with the domestic cat but again burned I was when I bought a used Grendel from a guy and it’s tearing brass apart on the first trip out and so I call him and say what’s the story with this rifle. We chase around the bush for awhile till he remembers oh yeah I bought a bolt from online and put it in that build cause I had broke the previous one. I had a .136 recess bolt in a .125 recess gun/chamber - right.....

Anyhow , choose the wildcat you are interested in and see what it does , I won’t necessarily stop endeavoring in them but I have surely slowed down in pursuing them because of my experiences.

I was recently considering 375 Raptor but ugh... cutting cases at the shoulder and no suppressor that fits the bore size and load data being unproven... I just can’t - too soon , still have 200 cases of brass that are pissing me off to look at.


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Re: Oddball/wildcat calibers [Re: TKandMike] #7745951 02/14/20 03:58 PM
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For handguns I really like the 7MM TCU. Basically a .223 necked up to 7mm. I have a barrel for a T/C Contender and when loaded with a 120 gr Nosler BT it is a deadly handgun cartridge for deer sized game. In rifles, I shoot 2 that are kind of oddballs for the USA, 6.5x54MS and 9.3x62 Mauser. Both are factory rounds with loaded ammo available but they are not ones commonly seen where I hunt.

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Re: Oddball/wildcat calibers [Re: TKandMike] #7746015 02/14/20 05:33 PM
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I have a 22 TACTICAL that is as accurate as I'm capable of shooting it, has no recoil, and does terrible things to varmints and vermin. Love it! Have no idea why it is called "tactical," but it seems like tactical and camo are descriptors that rule the roost for the last several years!

Re: Oddball/wildcat calibers [Re: mikei] #7746084 02/14/20 06:44 PM
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The .25/06. Been using it since the early '60s, way before Remington adopted it. Still shooting the same rifle from then, too.

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Re: Oddball/wildcat calibers [Re: Dink Dodger] #7746180 02/14/20 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Dink Dodger
Not wildcat but pretty sure they qualify as oddball, 256 Winchester and 7-30 Waters. And 16ga.


256 is a neat little round, Have a contender barrel for it and 2 7-30 Waters contender barrels and 2 16Ga shotgun. All good fun and glad to see the 16Ga making a comeback. They tried to kill it off or so it seemed but too many good guns out there for that.

Re: Oddball/wildcat calibers [Re: TKandMike] #7746200 02/14/20 08:20 PM
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In my circle "you cant get shells at WalMart" classifies it as oddball or "bastard cartridge" and I have always been drawn to them! 257 stw , 7mm stw, 6mm-284, 17 rem, 338-06ai, 6mm rem, and yes the ole 16ga.

Re: Oddball/wildcat calibers [Re: thedoveshooter] #7746218 02/14/20 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by thedoveshooter
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Somewhat oddball in today's environment but not wildcat, 7.65ARG, cause Papa had one.


I've got one. 1891 Argentine Mauser. Beautiful rifle and surprisingly accurate. Its the smoothest bolt action military surplus I've handled. The bolt is very Remington 700ish.

Yep, that's the one Papa had. My cousins and aunt came in and cleaned out everything and I mean everything after Gran Gran passed. Enjoy it sir. Lucky you.

Re: Oddball/wildcat calibers [Re: kmon1] #7746287 02/14/20 09:42 PM
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Not wildcat but pretty sure they qualify as oddball, 256 Winchester and 7-30 Waters. And 16ga.


256 is a neat little round, Have a contender barrel for it and 2 7-30 Waters contender barrels and 2 16Ga shotgun. All good fun and glad to see the 16Ga making a comeback. They tried to kill it off or so it seemed but too many good guns out there for that.


Yes sir I'm a Contender nut. I lucked into a T/C Custom Shop 256 carbine barrel and also have a 10" bull barrel. I shoot the 7-30 Waters in a carbine as well as a 12" hunter barrel but mostly enjoy it from my Win 94. It is a great Tx whitetail cartridge!
I have a trifecta of 16ga, 870 pump, 1100 semi auto, and an over/under.

I've posted these before but this is what the 256 carbine is capable of. It's pushing a 75gr Sierra Varminteer about 2400fps
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221 FB on my 12” contender, easy to load and very accurate.

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Re: Oddball/wildcat calibers [Re: TKandMike] #7746704 02/15/20 05:30 AM
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Not wildcats but not your everyday cartridges. 219 zipper and a 223 wssm.

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I have a 6mm creedmoor also don't know if it would be considered a wildcat but it does shoot great.

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225 Win; 25WSSM, 257R, 257AI, 30/06...opps, that last one probably doesn't count!...

Re: Oddball/wildcat calibers [Re: TKandMike] #7747154 02/15/20 11:45 PM
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Re: Oddball/wildcat calibers [Re: TKandMike] #7747540 02/16/20 04:31 PM
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Got started with a 17 Mach-IV. Then 20 Var Targ. Have a 6x45 ar barrel. Am currently working with a 7.62x40 WT.
Have a 17 Furball upper I really like.
Guess favorite is still anything 17.

Re: Oddball/wildcat calibers [Re: TKandMike] #7748017 02/17/20 04:02 AM
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not a wildcat, I just don't know many people locally that shoot it,
7.5x55 Swiss, My K-31 obviously is chambered for it. Pretty much a .308 Win. same bullets at least.
I think i love the gun more than the round. Straight pull bolt and a stupid accurate gun with open sights. I paid $160 for mine. So happy they have increased in value. At Cabela's they were $699 and in alot worse shape than mine. I've noticed that the older K-11s are making a come back, but from what i've read about them, they may not be safe to shoot new modern ammo in them.

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I load for and shoot most all of the older military cartridges ; 6.5x50 jap . 6.5x52 car , 6,5x53r , 6,5x54 ms , 6.5x54r , 6,5x55 sw , 6.5x58 port , 7x57 m , 7.35x51 car , 7,5x54 fr , 7,5x55 sw , 30/40 k , 7,62x54r , 303 , 7.7x58 jap , 7.9x57 m . 7.65x53 arg , 8x50 leb , 8x50r man , 8x52r sim , 8x53r mur , 8x56rf man , 8x58r dan , 8x60r port , 10,4x38r sw , 10.35x47r it , 11x53r com , 11x60r mur , 11,15x58r spn , 11,15x60r m , 11.15x58r aus , 11x59r gras , 577/450 mh , 11,.4x50r wern , 11.43 egp , 11,4x50r com , 11,4x51r dan , 11x52r bea , 577 snd to name most . I also use some oddball sporting rounds ; 22 hp , 25/20 , 30 rem , 32 rem , 32 win sl , 351 win , 44 evans , 8x60 m , 8,15x46r , 9x57 m , 9.3x57 m , 445 ne , 11,2x60 sch , and also some wildcats ; 7x47 m , 7mm creed , 8x47 m , 357 bandit , 44 bandit , 45 bandit , 500 bandit , .357 diablo , 7,62 ctme , 17.8x76 with a 900 gr bullet , 8.1x51r , 7.8x56 car , 35x51 car . That is all I can recall right now , I have taken game with all of the sporting and wildcats . I will not get into handgun rounds as I do molst all of them also .

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