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The virus
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02/13/20 07:58 PM
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News just reported the first case in San Antonio. Apparently the person was one of those that evacuated Wuhan and was in quarantine.
How do you feel about people coming back to the US after being in China? IMO, don't come back until after you have passed a quarantine over there and then 2 more over here.
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Re: The virus
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02/13/20 08:02 PM
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Re: The virus
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02/13/20 08:13 PM
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I replied in the other thread that it was pretty stupid that they held them in a 14 day quarantine and before they were released that it had been reported that the incubation of the virus was 21-28 days. And they released them anyway. Go figure!
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Re: The virus
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02/13/20 08:13 PM
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Have there been any deaths in the US from this virus?
Funny thing about getting older: Your eyesight starts getting weaker but your ability to see through people's BS gets much better.
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Re: The virus
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02/13/20 08:14 PM
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Re: The virus
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02/13/20 08:25 PM
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The southside will freak. Rumors are already probably spreading like wildfire and being grossly convoluted.
...and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. Gen. 1:28
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Re: The virus
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02/13/20 08:32 PM
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Re: The virus
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02/13/20 08:32 PM
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I replied in the other thread that it was pretty stupid that they held them in a 14 day quarantine and before they were released that it had been reported that the incubation of the virus was 21-28 days. And they released them anyway. Go figure! The incubation period is calculated on based on past experiences, 95% will show signs in 6.4 days, but then others may not show signs for up to 28 days or longer. The only sure method of quarantine is place them in quarantine forever.
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Re: The virus
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02/13/20 08:50 PM
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News just reported the first case in San Antonio. Apparently the person was one of those that evacuated Wuhan and was in quarantine.
How do you feel about people coming back to the US after being in China? IMO, don't come back until after you have passed a quarantine over there and then 2 more over here. It is irrelevant at this point. China had a small window of opportunity to contain the spread late December early January. Cat is out of the bag now. The disease is more than likely spreading domestically and globally undetected - similar symptoms to the cold/flu. CDC/WH task force even admits the test has very low accuracy and is highly flawed - current research says most likely 60% of the global population will be affected. 80% of cases very mild (like a cold) - 20% severe requiring hospitalization. Do the math: US population 327 million; 60% infected: 196 million; 20% of those cases severe: ~39 million...How many hospital beds available in the US? Not even 10% of that. With the flawed tests - there have been a number of cases where a patient presents with cold/flu symptoms. 1st test on that day negative, test 5 days later negative again, 10 days, negative...and finally a positive test in subsequent days. That is why it is so incredibly hard to detect. Not to mention people are contagious before showing symptoms. You can't quarantine the entire population.
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Re: The virus
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02/13/20 08:51 PM
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I’m not in favor of restricting American citizens from entering their own country. Hey should be allowed to return, but quarantined here.
If it were me, that’s what I’d want. Get me home, stick me in a quarantine (military base, perhaps) and treat me. I want the best healthcare, which is here, but I don’t want to spread the virus to anyone else, so I don’t want to just go home or a hospital that isn’t equipped for this.
I just turned it on . I was looking bird dogs in the butt this morning.
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Re: The virus
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02/13/20 08:53 PM
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I took a job a year ago that requires me to work from home. I have quarantined myself.
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Re: The virus
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02/13/20 09:05 PM
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...but, I don’t want to spread the virus to anyone else, so I don’t want to just go home or a hospital that isn’t equipped for this. 'Problem is, not everyone in the general population has your reasoning skills. Lots of stupid, selfish people out there.
...and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. Gen. 1:28
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Re: The virus
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02/13/20 09:45 PM
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I've said it before I'll say it again, Travel ban, to and from China and Asian countries.
Do not forget to entertain strangers, For by so doing some have unwittingly entertained angels Hebrews 13:2
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Re: The virus
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02/13/20 11:02 PM
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China needs to get that shiat under control. It's badly damaging their GDP and wreaking havoc on our stock market.
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Re: The virus
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02/13/20 11:15 PM
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...but, I don’t want to spread the virus to anyone else, so I don’t want to just go home or a hospital that isn’t equipped for this. 'Problem is, not everyone in the general population has your reasoning skills. Lots of stupid, selfish people out there. That is true. I think authorities should require quarantine. I’m just saying I wouldn’t want to be released from quarantine in China and then just fly home, but I would want to come home, and that is something that should be allowed. And it is allowed.
I just turned it on . I was looking bird dogs in the butt this morning.
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Re: The virus
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02/13/20 11:20 PM
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They should leave them sum britches in china for a year.
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Re: The virus
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02/13/20 11:25 PM
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I’m not in favor of restricting American citizens from entering their own country. Hey should be allowed to return, but quarantined here.
If it were me, that’s what I’d want. Get me home, stick me in a quarantine (military base, perhaps) and treat me. I want the best healthcare, which is here, but I don’t want to spread the virus to anyone else, so I don’t want to just go home or a hospital that isn’t equipped for this. I have to agree.
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Re: The virus
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02/13/20 11:29 PM
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Someone explain why this is more of an emergency than any other respiratory virus?
Funny thing about getting older: Your eyesight starts getting weaker but your ability to see through people's BS gets much better.
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Re: The virus
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02/13/20 11:37 PM
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Someone explain why this is more of an emergency than any other respiratory virus? because the media says so??? What happens when 90% of the media is controlled/owned by (6) corporations? What happens when those same corporations are operated and controlled by a political ideology? What happens when the news is no longer free from bias? What happens when the news is no longer reliable and independent? What happens when the news is no longer trustworthy? What happens when the news simply becomes an extension/arm of a political party? Fact becomes fiction? Fiction becomes fact? When does news become propaganda? Identity creation? How does the average person, who is under constant financial stress (by design), find time to research and discern fact v fiction? Majority of people more prone to believe someone in power sitting behind a big brand ‘news’ name? Do people [human psyche] tend to follow the ‘majority/mainstream viewpoint’ in fear of being isolated and/or shunned? ‘Mainstream’ is used for a reason [dominate trend in opinion]. [If majority of people believe ‘x’ then ‘x’ must be validated / true] Why do ‘mainstream’ media heads, within different orgs, always use the same keywords and/or catch phrases? Coordinated? By who? Outside entity providing instructions? Do they count on the fact that people [human psyche] are more prone to believe something if heard over-and-over again by different ‘trusted’ sources? Do ‘echo chamber’ tactics provide validation / credibility to the topic/point being discussed? Threat to intellectual freedom? Would control over[of] these institutions/organizations allow for the mass control of a populations viewpoint re: a desired topic? Read again – digest. Would control over[of] these institutions/organizations allow for the mass control of a populations viewpoint re: a desired topic? Logical thinking. Why, after the election of 2016, did [D]’s and media corps jumpstart a [coordinated & planned] divisive blitz intended to create falsehoods re: illegitimacy of election, character assassination of POTUS through sexism, racism, every other ‘ism’? Pre/post 2016 election? Why were violent [masked] terror orgs such as Antifa immediately created/funded? Why were these orgs tasked w/ immediate intimidation/shut down of any pro-POTUS rally[s] and/or events? Why were marches immediately organized to counter and silence pro-POTUS rally[s] and/or events? Why were marches immediately organized which divided people into sex/gender, race, [ism]? When you control the levers of news dissemination, you control the narrative. Control of the narrative = power When you are blind, what do you see? They want you divided. Divided by religion. Divided by sex. Divided by political affiliation. Divided by class. When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those ‘different’ from you, not those responsible [controllers]. Divided you are weak. Divided you pose no threat to their control. When ‘non-dogmatic’ information becomes FREE & TRANSPARENT it becomes a threat to those who attempt to control the narrative and/or stable [livestock kept – sheep]. When you are awake, you stand on the outside of the stable (‘group-think’ collective), and have ‘free thought’. "Free thought" is a philosophical viewpoint which holds that positions regarding truth should be formed on the basis of logic, reason, and empiricism, rather than authority, tradition, revelation, or dogma. THIS REPRESENTS A CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER TO THE CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
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Re: The virus
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02/13/20 11:43 PM
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Someone explain why this is more of an emergency than any other respiratory virus? My understanding is the mortality rate of over 2%. Combined with its inability to detect someone infected and how easily it is transfered. But it could be the media too.
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Re: The virus
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02/14/20 12:09 AM
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And, we still have flu shot deniers.
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Re: The virus
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02/14/20 12:23 AM
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And, we still have flu shot deniers. And, we still have shed and spread deniers.
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Re: The virus
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02/14/20 12:37 AM
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And, we still have flu shot deniers. There is no shot for this virus.
Funny thing about getting older: Your eyesight starts getting weaker but your ability to see through people's BS gets much better.
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Re: The virus
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02/14/20 12:40 AM
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And, we still have flu shot deniers. Your free flu shot won't keep you from getting this.
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Re: The virus
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02/14/20 12:47 AM
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And, we still have flu shot deniers. Your free flu shot won't keep you from getting this. But, but, but, people said the same about the flu shot. Let me rephrase. Will you take the shot for the virus. When not if it becomes available?
Quail hunting is like walking into, and out of a beautiful painting all day long. Gene Hill
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