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Suggestions on why my 223 wont sight in #7735233 02/01/20 09:59 PM
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Have a Savage 110 E in 223 that wont sight in Have clesned barrel , changed scopes and tried about five different kinds of ammo. Took bases off and made sure all is tightened down Always mount my own scopes and boresight all my rifles and never had this kind of problem Any ideas would be appreciated

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What twist is your barrel and what ammo are you shooting?

Re: Suggestions on why my 223 wont sight in [Re: Kodyjoe2016] #7735237 02/01/20 10:08 PM
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Dont know the twist but its about 35 yrs old and still looks new Have tried wincheste and remington ammo Just when i think i have it sighted in the next shot mite go 4 inches on way or the other

Re: Suggestions on why my 223 wont sight in [Re: Kodyjoe2016] #7735243 02/01/20 10:15 PM
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If it’s that old it’s a 1:14 and the max bullet weight is going to be a 55g. I would also check the action screws. I once sold an excellent rifle that had a loose action screw when I didn’t know any better and I’m the screw that made it loose. It shot great until I took the stock off to adjust the trigger. The new owner called me that evening and told me what he had found.

Re: Suggestions on why my 223 wont sight in [Re: Kodyjoe2016] #7735245 02/01/20 10:19 PM
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slide a dollar bill between the barrel and stock and see if it's free floated all the way down.

Re: Suggestions on why my 223 wont sight in [Re: Kodyjoe2016] #7735246 02/01/20 10:19 PM
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Maybe you have some contact between the barrel and stock. Barrel heats up, pressure point changes and moves your point of impact. Just a guess, that or your stock is loose.

I had a 110E. Its the cheap version of a cheap gun. Not saying that in a bad way, but stock fit and finish wasn't the priority....


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Re: Suggestions on why my 223 wont sight in [Re: Kodyjoe2016] #7735247 02/01/20 10:20 PM
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Ok thank you sir will check them. I think thats what grain i am trying and i let it cool off between shots Evev called Savage to buy another barrel but they dont have them Thanks again

Re: Suggestions on why my 223 wont sight in [Re: Kodyjoe2016] #7735255 02/01/20 10:39 PM
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Did the barrel rust? I once bought an absolutely beautiful Schults & Larsen in 7x61 S&H only to find the barrel hadn't been oiled in 30 or 40 years.


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Re: Suggestions on why my 223 wont sight in [Re: Kodyjoe2016] #7735273 02/01/20 11:11 PM
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Is your stock tightened ?

Re: Suggestions on why my 223 wont sight in [Re: Kodyjoe2016] #7735277 02/01/20 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Kodyjoe2016
Ok thank you sir will check them. I think thats what grain i am trying and i let it cool off between shots Evev called Savage to buy another barrel but they dont have them Thanks again



Aftermarket barrels are cheap and easy to install.

Re: Suggestions on why my 223 wont sight in [Re: Kodyjoe2016] #7735321 02/02/20 12:25 AM
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Where can i get an aftermarket barrel

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Aftermarket barrels covers a wide selection. Shaw barrels being the cheapest I know of and they are $199. Evening being the cheapest they are a serviceable accurate barrel. Available in various lengths, profiles and twists from many manufacturers at a wide price range. Expect $200-500. You will have to figure out what you want, your price range, then search manufacturers.

Just google “223 savage barrel”, you will have more options than you can stress over.

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Will do. Thanks to everyone for yalls help

Re: Suggestions on why my 223 wont sight in [Re: Kodyjoe2016] #7735383 02/02/20 02:03 AM
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When one is acting up, I start simple, and go from there.

1. Action screws tight
2. Barrel free-floated (with any front support, many will not tolerate a front bag or bipod)
3. Scope base tight
4. Scope rings tight

If you can check yes on all those, then the next step is scope problem and/or ammo problem.


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Re: Suggestions on why my 223 wont sight in [Re: Kodyjoe2016] #7735402 02/02/20 02:31 AM
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I am not that that far from you. If i cant get it figured out ,may holler at you for your help Got some friends that live in wolfe city. Thanks

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Letting it cools between shots helps. On mine, i can get 3, maybe 4, shots close. 5th and beyond go from bad to worse. Barrel cools and start over.


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Re: Suggestions on why my 223 wont sight in [Re: Kodyjoe2016] #7735469 02/02/20 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Kodyjoe2016
I am not that that far from you. If i cant get it figured out ,may holler at you for your help Got some friends that live in wolfe city. Thanks


Not a problem


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Originally Posted by FiremanJG
When one is acting up, I start simple, and go from there.

1. Action screws tight
2. Barrel free-floated (with any front support, many will not tolerate a front bag or bipod)
3. Scope base tight
4. Scope rings tight

If you can check yes on all those, then the next step is scope problem and/or ammo problem.

If those s check and the bore looks good and action lockup is tight, swap the scope for one you know is good and try again. Also check the muzzle crown and the nut behind the trigger.


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Re: Suggestions on why my 223 wont sight in [Re: Kodyjoe2016] #7736349 02/03/20 02:42 PM
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Whenever this has happened to me it has been a loose action or a loose scope/mount or in one case just a broken scope.

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Any updates for those who enjoy learning from the problems others had to deal with?


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Sorry it took so long to post update. I did get out my tools and check the screws on scope mounts and trigger guard screws Guess i put a little too much on one of the scope mounts. I stripped one out and now it wont tighten up. Gotta order another set of rings

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Originally Posted by Kodyjoe2016
Sorry it took so long to post update. I did get out my tools and check the screws on scope mounts and trigger guard screws Guess i put a little too much on one of the scope mounts. I stripped one out and now it wont tighten up. Gotta order another set of rings


A torque wrench is a very worthwhile investment.

This is a decent reasonably priced one.

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1007367010?pid=718023

Before someone posts that there are others that are more accurate, yes there are. However, any decent torque wrench is better than none. The Wheeler will work just fine for this purpose.

If money is no object, they go up from there in cost, but really are not necessary for this purpose.




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Sorry it took so long to post update. I did get out my tools and check the screws on scope mounts and trigger guard screws Guess i put a little too much on one of the scope mounts. I stripped one out and now it wont tighten up. Gotta order another set of rings


A torque wrench is a very worthwhile investment.

This is a decent reasonably priced one.

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1007367010?pid=718023

Before someone posts that there are others that are more accurate, yes there are. However, any decent torque wrench is better than none. The Wheeler will work just fine for this purpose.

If money is no object, they go up from there in cost, but really are not necessary for this purpose.






I looked into high end inch pound torque wrenches. It led me to Snap-On, Matco, ect. And that equated to $150-ish. So I bought the F.A.T. wrench and have been using it for years. Sure, the business I'm in now can justify a high end inch pound torque wrench, but I do not see the need. What I am doing is working.

O.P. I'm glad you found the problem, now to fix the problem. But sometimes diagnostics is 90% of the battle.


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I have been using a FAT wrench for years and like said above, it might not be the best but it is dang sure better then not having one.

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Originally Posted by Kodyjoe2016
Sorry it took so long to post update. I did get out my tools and check the screws on scope mounts and trigger guard screws Guess i put a little too much on one of the scope mounts. I stripped one out and now it wont tighten up. Gotta order another set of rings


So you stripped it out before and that's what caused the bad shooting, or you stripped it while checking it and still don't know where the problem lies?


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