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Receiver hitch reducing sleeve
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01/30/20 03:21 AM
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Debate from another forum. Wanted other opinions. My 2500 has a 2.5 inch hitch and came with a 2 inch reducer sleeve. Does this sleeve reduce towing capacity/tongue weight when using a 2 inch hitch? Specifically on mine there isn’t any extra slop and it fits really well. Just curious what everyone thinks.
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Re: Receiver hitch reducing sleeve
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01/30/20 03:37 AM
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I say no, when using a 2”, it won’t hurt it
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Re: Receiver hitch reducing sleeve
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I say no, when using a 2”, it won’t hurt it That was my thought as well, but some strong opinions otherwise. I’m towing well within the trucks tongue/towing capacity and the same for the hitch.
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Re: Receiver hitch reducing sleeve
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I can't see where factory bushing it down would reduce capacity. Check manufacturer's web site for clarification.
If the 2nd amendment was written just to include guns for hunting, why is there not an amendment to protect fishing poles?
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Re: Receiver hitch reducing sleeve
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2" ball mounts usually have lower ratings than the 2.5". That would be all you lose. There's no loss in addition to that by using the sleeve.
Sleeves usually rattle. If yours doesn't or you don't notice it, roll with it.
I had a picture I took of a guy using a 2" ball mount in a 2.5" hitch. No sleeve. Can't find it now. Would have loved to see it in action with a trailer on it.
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Re: Receiver hitch reducing sleeve
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I can't see where factory bushing it down would reduce capacity. Check manufacturer's web site for clarification. I’ve checked the owners manual front to back over and over and the sleeve isn’t even mentioned. Much less anything about reducing capacity.
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2" ball mounts usually have lower ratings than the 2.5". That would be all you lose. There's no loss in addition to that by using the sleeve.
Sleeves usually rattle. If yours doesn't or you don't notice it, roll with it.
I had a picture I took of a guy using a 2" ball mount in a 2.5" hitch. No sleeve. Can't find it now. Would have loved to see it in action with a trailer on it. My hitch is rated for 10k on the 2 inch. Bought a bigger one since that is about the max a 2 inch ball can handle anyway.
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Re: Receiver hitch reducing sleeve
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The receiver will take whatever the 2” hitch can handle
Man if I knew what Oxner knows I could throw away what I know
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Re: Receiver hitch reducing sleeve
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I am agree, your ball and pin will set your limits.
If the 2nd amendment was written just to include guns for hunting, why is there not an amendment to protect fishing poles?
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Re: Receiver hitch reducing sleeve
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01/30/20 11:53 AM
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I’m of the opinion of, why do they make a 2.5” or 3” receiver? The sleeve should be more of an emergency kind of thing.
The answer to your question is why use the sleeve if you don’t have to.....
Never been to a camping world. I prefer Dick's to be honest.
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Re: Receiver hitch reducing sleeve
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The truth is in the politics....same truck, same hitch, right? So they want the 2.5" to give the engineers a way of "upping" the tow rating for sales purposes and I am sure that there are some fed regs they have written in accordance to the change but sticking a reducer in the hitch actually makes the hitch stronger so how could it be rated lower...it isn't when it comes to common sense, it would be stronger and then figure that it is all held together in their by a &1.99 pin made in China anyways. lol Tow baby tow!
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Re: Receiver hitch reducing sleeve
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I’m of the opinion of, why do they make a 2.5” or 3” receiver? The sleeve should be more of an emergency kind of thing.
The answer to your question is why use the sleeve if you don’t have to..... Because I have six 2 in hitches and didn’t want to start replacing them with 2.5’s unless I needed to do so.
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The 2.5" to 2" adapter sleeve itself doesn't reduce towing capacity/tongue weight. It adds wear points and a bit of slop. If your were to aim a video camera at the receiver & draw bar while towing most folks would be surprised to see the movement & flex after a couple hundred miles. Especially if you use a standard hollow tube ball mount / draw bar and tow mid weight to max. I only use forged ball mounts / draw bars (solid bar stock). The tow vehicle manufacturer rating, the receiver, ball and ball mount / draw bar and hitch pin ratings control capacity & tongue weight. The weakest piece (lowest rated) is the maximum weight capacity regardless of any other piece/part rating. Don't use cheap no name hitch pins. There are a couple of different gizmo's to prevent hitch & sleeve to draw bar rattle & movement, (hitch vice is one). I’m of the opinion of, why do they make a 2.5” or 3” receiver? The sleeve should be more of an emergency kind of thing.
The answer to your question is why use the sleeve if you don’t have to..... X2.
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Re: Receiver hitch reducing sleeve
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It is rated for the lowest rating of the device you are using. If you have a ball mount that is good for 12,000lbs but the ball itself is only rated for 8,000lbs you have to go with the lowest number. Should be a label on the hitch with the max rating on it.
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Re: Receiver hitch reducing sleeve
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01/30/20 02:32 PM
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Drive down a gravel road on a rainy day for a while. That’ll fix any slop when it fills in the gaps with that cement
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Re: Receiver hitch reducing sleeve
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Use the rating of the weakest link in the chain for max load and you should be good for that amount.
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Re: Receiver hitch reducing sleeve
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I’m of the opinion of, why do they make a 2.5” or 3” receiver? The sleeve should be more of an emergency kind of thing.
The answer to your question is why use the sleeve if you don’t have to..... Because I have six 2 in hitches and didn’t want to start replacing them with 2.5’s unless I needed to do so. Lol. Wow!
Never been to a camping world. I prefer Dick's to be honest.
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Where do you go about buying a 2.5 or 3 inch hitch? I have never seen one. We don't move anything bumper pull that a 2 inch cant and hasn't been handling fine for decades.
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Where do you go about buying a 2.5 or 3 inch hitch? I have never seen one. We don't move anything bumper pull that a 2 inch cant and hasn't been handling fine for decades. Even Wal-Mart has the 2.5. I haven’t looked for a 3” ball mount, I’m sure etrailer.com has them. Many brands make a solid shank adjustable ball mount in 2.5”.
Never been to a camping world. I prefer Dick's to be honest.
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Re: Receiver hitch reducing sleeve
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So this is no wano.......
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So this is no wano....... It looks good to me. That lock will prevent me from throwing it at you after I whack my shin on it.
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You have the sleeve, good to go. I have had customers pull trailers with a 2" hitch in their 2.5" receiver, crazy. I guess if the radio or exhaust is loud enough.
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Re: Receiver hitch reducing sleeve
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No wano or bueno would depend on what tongue weight & loaded trailer weight you're hauling.
The 2.5" to 2" adapter/sleeve makes no difference. I can't clearly see the ratings stamped on the ball mount/draw bar or ball itself. I assume the shear strength of the master lock hitch pin is adequate. What I can see appears to be 800lb Tw / 8000lb Gw... Don't exceed either.
Most folks underestimate how easy it is to exceed receiver hitch / bumper pull TW and even gooseneck or 5th wheel pin weight.
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I’m of the opinion of, why do they make a 2.5” or 3” receiver? The sleeve should be more of an emergency kind of thing.
The answer to your question is why use the sleeve if you don’t have to..... Because I have six 2 in hitches and didn’t want to start replacing them with 2.5’s unless I needed to do so. Lol. Wow! I know....Its a problem but having 4 trailers and pulling them with a total of 4 different vehicles (5 if I include the polaris) I ended up with an assortment of hitches with different drops and ball sizes.....
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