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Employment Help
#7730959
01/28/20 04:26 PM
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Cochise
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Wife's boss has forced her in the past to sign a form declining insurance. He offers group insurance to the veterinarians - but does not offer this to the other employees - everyone is forced to sign and decline.
I told my wife to bring the form home so I could look it over. He told her she would be terminated if she didn't sign it today.
Do we need a lawyer?
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Re: Employment Help
[Re: Cochise]
#7730970
01/28/20 04:33 PM
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CharlieCTx
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All of my legal experience is on the Criminal side of law... but I'd say you have at least an EEOC case that should be opened.
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Re: Employment Help
[Re: Cochise]
#7730973
01/28/20 04:34 PM
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Re: Employment Help
[Re: Cochise]
#7730981
01/28/20 04:36 PM
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noname124398
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Go up there and read it. Might change his tone.
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Re: Employment Help
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#7730984
01/28/20 04:37 PM
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Son of a Blitch
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Go up there and read it. Might change his tone.
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Re: Employment Help
[Re: Cochise]
#7730999
01/28/20 04:44 PM
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BigPig
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Is she a full time or part time employee?
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Re: Employment Help
[Re: BigPig]
#7731004
01/28/20 04:45 PM
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Cochise
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Is she a full time or part time employee? Full time W2.
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Re: Employment Help
[Re: Cochise]
#7731006
01/28/20 04:46 PM
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Ktexas14
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You can't offer health insurance for some and not for others. It sounds like he is "offering" it to everyone and then forcing some to decline it. That would be illegal. If you have some sort of proof that he is forcing her to sign, I would get an attorney. I am not a lawyer, my wife is an HR professional with PHR Certification, has worked at two very large companies and this would not fly. See if she can get some form of proof (writing or recording (if in texas) that she is being forced to decline the coverage) and I would take that to an attorney if it is something you want to pursue. Also, if you dont want to pay for attorneys and are willing to go down that road, I am sure the EEOC would be interested in hearing about this. Link from Texas Department of Insurance https://www.tdi.texas.gov/pubs/consumer/cb040.html
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Re: Employment Help
[Re: Cochise]
#7731021
01/28/20 04:55 PM
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TexasKC
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When I had a business I was told that it's all or none. Any employee can decline the insurance but you can't force them to decline.
In the end, it's not the years in your life that count, it's the life in your years.
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Re: Employment Help
[Re: Cochise]
#7731031
01/28/20 05:06 PM
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YellowDog
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Have her take a picture of the form and txt it to you sounds fishy
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Re: Employment Help
[Re: Cochise]
#7731032
01/28/20 05:07 PM
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Thanks guys. That is what I figured.
I called his bluff and he has recanted, apologized, and offered insurance. Not that I ever had any intention of taking it because I'm sure it's an outrageously expensive plan. I'm just done with my wife being bullied. Doesn't sit well with me.
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Re: Employment Help
[Re: Cochise]
#7731033
01/28/20 05:09 PM
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fadetoblack64
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She probably needs to look for a new job now
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Re: Employment Help
[Re: YellowDog]
#7731034
01/28/20 05:09 PM
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Have her take a picture of the form and txt it to you sounds fishy It was the BCBS group plan form and they had highlighted/filled out all the stuff so she'd be declining. 1st thing she did was send it to me.
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Re: Employment Help
[Re: fadetoblack64]
#7731036
01/28/20 05:11 PM
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She probably needs to look for a new job now Small town, big ego. It'd hurt him more if he fired her and word got out about how he treats his employees. This is just the tip of the iceberg. But yes, she definitely is looking for a new job long before this.
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Re: Employment Help
[Re: Cochise]
#7731041
01/28/20 05:16 PM
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She probably needs to look for a new job now Small town, big ego. It'd hurt him more if he fired her and word got out about how he treats his employees. This is just the tip of the iceberg. But yes, she definitely is looking for a new job long before this. Let him fire her then sue his azz !
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Re: Employment Help
[Re: Cochise]
#7731042
01/28/20 05:17 PM
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007hunter
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If he is trying this kind of carp...there is no telling what else is going on...
I think the new job advice from above is the way to go...regardless of his "recant"...
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Re: Employment Help
[Re: 007hunter]
#7731046
01/28/20 05:19 PM
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If he is trying this kind of carp...there is no telling what else is going on...
I think the new job advice from above is the way to go...regardless of his "recant"... reminds me a place i worked at for about a week that had bullet holes in the building
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Re: Employment Help
[Re: Cochise]
#7731052
01/28/20 05:22 PM
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I would keep copies of anything you now have. Also write detailed notes of everything that happened, showing dates and times and names of everyone that was present when it happened. Make it as DETAILED as you and her can.
Combat Infantryman, the ultimate hunter where the prey shoots back. _____________"Illegitimus non carborundum est"_______________
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Re: Employment Help
[Re: Cochise]
#7731062
01/28/20 05:29 PM
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Sounds like she is about to loose her job either way. Regardless of his illegal doings. She don’t sign... She is terminated She signs and sues... She is terminated
Funny thing about getting older: Your eyesight starts getting weaker but your ability to see through people's BS gets much better.
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Re: Employment Help
[Re: Cochise]
#7731067
01/28/20 05:31 PM
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Texasteach
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I would put some more research into this before I acted. Employers are allowed to selectively give insurance benefits as long as they don't discriminate based upon a protected class. For example, here they are trying to offer incentives to attract and retain their vets. For a smaller business, insurance is not a right.
The forcing to decline does sound a little fishy though. Sounds like they got into an insurance plan that the insurer requires all non-benefited personnel to opt out.
You did what?
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Re: Employment Help
[Re: Cochise]
#7731070
01/28/20 05:33 PM
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Sounds like he’s in need of a throat punch.
If you`re running down my country, man, You`re walking on the fighting side of me. (Merle)
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Re: Employment Help
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#7731071
01/28/20 05:35 PM
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fadetoblack64
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Beat his arse
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Re: Employment Help
[Re: Cochise]
#7731106
01/28/20 06:05 PM
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If he fires her, I assume she would file for unemployment. Texas Workforce Commission would be an advocate at that point. EEOC, I would imagine, would not handle this since insurance is at the state level. Obamacare may make it federal at that point.
I am not a lawyer and hate most lawyers I know.
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Re: Employment Help
[Re: Cochise]
#7731148
01/28/20 06:36 PM
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Haven't had it in years but never spit any out. I am a sucker for happy endings and strapped cowboys.
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