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Re: Where have the ducks gone discussion [Re: tdogg] #7710996 01/08/20 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by tdogg
Originally Posted by garrett
tdogg, take it easy on the dude, he's from Florence, he cant help it


I feel bad now. I'll send him a box of crayons to munch on, and a bottle of windex so his momma can clean that window he loves to lick so much.



Awww, you're a sweetheart, thanks!


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Re: Where have the ducks gone discussion [Re: Jobst] #7711083 01/08/20 01:25 AM
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Wow...This is the most action a thread on this forum has gotten in the last 5 years

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Might have to get the catfish special at D-Boone’s Friday


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Re: Where have the ducks gone discussion [Re: HVILLE HNTR] #7711150 01/08/20 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by HVILLE HNTR
Wow...This is the most action a thread on this forum has gotten in the last 5 years

Actually, here was a thread on Flyway Federation less than a year a go, that went 4 pages, this one will probably go further cuz tdogg is on here. roflmao

https://texashuntingforum.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/7430650/1

Re: Where have the ducks gone discussion [Re: Jobst] #7711160 01/08/20 02:28 AM
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Bottom line- if you have habitat- shallow water and food source, you have birds. They will find it. Migration, no migration. They will concentrate were food is. Pressure is the largest deterrent IMO. We haven't had a real cold front since first week of season but have consistently shot limits, or worst case, 1/2 limits on stale birds. Have to get creative. Traditional hunting, decoy setup, etc doesn’t work as well. Have to be different.

Great season so far for puddle ducks. Hopefully continues.



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damn duck season isn't even over yet and y'all already back to clucking - I can't wait to see what the off season looks like

Re: Where have the ducks gone discussion [Re: Jobst] #7712079 01/08/20 11:34 PM
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The birds that do make it down here find the tanks no one is hunting and stay there.

I hate that up north they can now flood corn and hunt in it.

And ice eaters are from the devil!


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Originally Posted by Hopedale

And ice eaters are from the devil!


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Wingshooting is like sex for me - I love doing it but I'm just not that good at it.

Originally Posted by Nogalus Prairie
Good hunting leases are like good bird dogs. You dont have them forever, but they leave wonderful memories.

Re: Where have the ducks gone discussion [Re: KWood_TSU] #7719209 01/16/20 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by KWood_TSU
This has been a really good series that I'm currently watching.



This was a good series and I enjoyed listening to it. I was able to get through pretty much all of them.

The one thing I came away from all of it is you can point your finger and play the blame game on all sorts of factors; spinning wing decoys, flooded food plots, hunting pressure, etc. But all and all we are in this together and I think the only thing we can do as individuals to help the duck population is to limit our hen harvest. I'm proud to say I've only shot 3 mallard hens so far this year, but I feel I've shot to many hens of other species. I'll run my numbers after the season. I'd say 1/4 to 1/3 of my bag has been other hens (ringnecks, teal, spoonies, gadwall, etc.) I feel this is to high and I need to do a better job on not harvesting hens. Just my thoughts and I'd ask each hunter to make a concerted effort to do the same.

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So...now that that has seemed to settle down, who's up for some lake naming! I'm sure we can break 10 pages if we try.


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Re: Where have the ducks gone discussion [Re: Greekangler] #7719726 01/16/20 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Greekangler
Bottom line- if you have habitat- shallow water and food source, you have birds. They will find it. Migration, no migration. They will concentrate were food is. Pressure is the largest deterrent IMO. We haven't had a real cold front since first week of season but have consistently shot limits, or worst case, 1/2 limits on stale birds. Have to get creative. Traditional hunting, decoy setup, etc doesn’t work as well. Have to be different.

Great season so far for puddle ducks. Hopefully continues.



I have 100 acres of prime moist soil habitat. 15 acres of japanese millet. There have been birds on my property for one day this season. Zero pressure in the second split. Zero birds this morning when I scouted. Its mind bottling...

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Buddy of mine guided this hunt last weekend in central-ish Texas


I think they all went there..

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Re: Where have the ducks gone discussion [Re: jnd59] #7719734 01/16/20 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by jnd59
So...now that that has seemed to settle down, who's up for some lake naming! I'm sure we can break 10 pages if we try.



I have not heard a single shot in December and January out of Lake VineGrape

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Originally Posted by Teamjefe
Originally Posted by Greekangler
Bottom line- if you have habitat- shallow water and food source, you have birds. They will find it. Migration, no migration. They will concentrate were food is. Pressure is the largest deterrent IMO. We haven't had a real cold front since first week of season but have consistently shot limits, or worst case, 1/2 limits on stale birds. Have to get creative. Traditional hunting, decoy setup, etc doesn’t work as well. Have to be different.

Great season so far for puddle ducks. Hopefully continues.



I have 100 acres of prime moist soil habitat. 15 acres of japanese millet. There have been birds on my property for one day this season. Zero pressure in the second split. Zero birds this morning when I scouted. Its mind bottling...




Yep, I follow some of the elite ducks clubs on social media in arkansas and they have ducks but are reporting very low nunbers.

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Re: Where have the ducks gone discussion [Re: Jobst] #7719745 01/16/20 05:48 PM
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Well, it was 72 degrees yesterday, what do you expect.


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Re: Where have the ducks gone discussion [Re: jnd59] #7719754 01/16/20 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by jnd59
So...now that that has seemed to settle down, who's up for some lake naming! I'm sure we can break 10 pages if we try.

We need something to liven this place up. juggle

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Originally Posted by Guy
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So...now that that has seemed to settle down, who's up for some lake naming! I'm sure we can break 10 pages if we try.

We need something to liven this place up. juggle



We still got two weeks though! Y'all can lake name, just not wma name!


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Re: Where have the ducks gone discussion [Re: KWood_TSU] #7719914 01/16/20 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by KWood_TSU
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So...now that that has seemed to settle down, who's up for some lake naming! I'm sure we can break 10 pages if we try.

We need something to liven this place up. juggle



We still got two weeks though! Y'all can lake name, just not wma name!


Well, I'll stick a finger in the fan:

So I hear there are tons of ducks at the following:

Cheyenne Bottoms WMA
Neosho WMA

Anybody hunted there lately? I'm not looking for your general spots. I want the supreme honey holes!


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Originally Posted by jnd59
So...now that that has seemed to settle down, who's up for some lake naming! I'm sure we can break 10 pages if we try.


Lake Granger sucks and needs groceries - https://texashuntingforum.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/7706122/all/lake-granger

We should be allowed to have duck feeders filled with corn.


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From my experience this season, it is weather related.

We had a couple good strong fronts early this year and I had a better first split than I ever have before.

Then the pattern shifted to stagnant with little bitty mild "Cool Fronts" that did little to get birds moving. I think the birds that arrived on those early fronts, left on some of the others and hardly any new birds have followed them. The weather has been so muggy and not very "Ducky".

I'm not saying there aren't any ducks around but the ones that are here get smart about where to stay where they can't get pressured.

I've seen more birds during the second split sitting on cooling ponds and retention ponds around chemical plants and cities than I have out in the hunting marsh.

They aren't stupid and they learn the safe havens quick.

Just my 2cents


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Re: Where have the ducks gone discussion [Re: 2flyfish4] #7722304 01/19/20 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 2flyfish4
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This has been a really good series that I'm currently watching.



This was a good series and I enjoyed listening to it. I was able to get through pretty much all of them.

The one thing I came away from all of it is you can point your finger and play the blame game on all sorts of factors; spinning wing decoys, flooded food plots, hunting pressure, etc. But all and all we are in this together and I think the only thing we can do as individuals to help the duck population is to limit our hen harvest. I'm proud to say I've only shot 3 mallard hens so far this year, but I feel I've shot to many hens of other species. I'll run my numbers after the season. I'd say 1/4 to 1/3 of my bag has been other hens (ringnecks, teal, spoonies, gadwall, etc.) I feel this is to high and I need to do a better job on not harvesting hens. Just my thoughts and I'd ask each hunter to make a concerted effort to do the same.


I do tend to agree on this generally. I personally think shooting less hens is important. More hens = more broods in theory...


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I'd like to see a cap on the amount of hens you can shoot within your daily bag limit. 2 or 3 hens (of all species) max out of your six bird bag.

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There have been a couple studies that show hen killers have a lot less impact on duck numbers than you would think. Main reason is that hunting is a relatively low factor in mortality. It’s all about the habitat in the breeding grounds in the spring.


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I think I have seen those same studies. I would say I agree with them however there is a limit of 2 mallard hens per bag limit. So there must be something about limiting the harvest of hens.

If you listen the spinning wing decoy discussions of the xo state of waterfowling they indicate studies that show young hens being particularly vulnerable to spinning wing decoys. I dont believe spinning wing decoys are going anywhere, to much money.... so the only thing I think we can do as conservationist hunters is to further limit our harvest of hens. Just my opinion.

Ultimately I am not in favor of the government telling me what I can and cant do, but if hunters aren't going to protect the resource themselves then what option do we have. Just bc you can doesn't mean you should.

If you are familiar with trout fishing along the texas coast then you know how the state wouldnt lower the limit on trout even though all the guides/outfitters knew the trout population wasnt strong enough to continue to support the 10 trout limit the state had. Bc of increased fishing pressure. So most of the guides and outfitters banned together and restricted customers to only keeping 5 trout per day. Now the state has changed its position and made the limit 5 across the TX coast. Buts that's a different topic.

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Imo a compromise on spinning wing decoys would only be to use them first split only, second split only, something along those lines. Would it be a popular proposition? Doubtful.

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