NRA defines "long range" as +600 yards.

I've asked hundreds of people that come see me "what is the farthest distance you have hit anything on purpose?" 95% of the time the answer is 300 yards. And I buy it. The old cartridges, with a 3-9X duplex scope can run out to 300 yards without too much fuss. Beyond that, the drop and the wind drift is more precipitous.

To me, short range is less than 100 yards.

Seriously, the shorter you cut the barrel, the tighter it will shoot inside 400 yards.

A short barrel is a stiff barrel.

I agree with your statement, 300 and under, pick one, past that you really need to start dialing to be accurate and past 400 really taking the wind into consideration and you better have some range time at those distances in varying winds before you go hunt.
I am on a 7k acre property and 99% of the shots are under 200 and I have to go seek out places to shoot past 300

WSM, 300 or 7mm would work well.
Lots of elk get taken up this way with sub 30 caliber guns, 270 is a popular caliber.

My 7WSM is a dream to shoot and i had it built for my elk gun. Unfortunately, it wasnt ready in time for the one and only elk hunt i went on back in 2015 with the THF fellas. This year it'll hit the mountains though.

I'm surprised nobody has suggested 280AI.

That and 7 Rem Mag would be my top 2 picks.

when I started heading to the mountains in 1979, I purchased my 700 classic 7mm Rem Mag and took my dad's sporterized 30-06 as my backup. My 7 mag has taken 7-8 CO/NM mule deer and one 5x5 elk. It is my go-to rifle for any longer shots or mature bucks, when I drop back to does, I take a 22-250.

I had a Nosler 280 AI, great gun, loved the round but you had better handload or be prepared to spend more on ammo
After I got rid of mine I decided if I ever did that type of caliber I would do 7mag, mainly due to so much more ammo being readily available in varying calibers.

Which one? 28 Nosler or 280AI?
I've seen lots of factory ammo for both as of late.

+1 on this. Especially when you are beating through thick vegetation.

Nosler makes 280 AI ammo, they also standardized the cartridge in 2008. The 28 nosler is completely different

Nosler also offers rifles chambered in 280 AI, which is what I believe ccoker meant.

yeah, I had a Nosler 280AI rifle

Ammo was hard to find and I don't always have time to handload and haven't in several years..
Pretty much only interested in ammo that Hornady makes as it has shot great for me

280 Remington

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