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U.S. sending home 21 Saudi cadets, NAS Pensacola shooting an 'act of terrorism' #7717043 01/14/20 02:26 AM
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WASHINGTON - Attorney General William Barr said Monday that the Saudi Arabian shooter at Naval Air Station Pensacola was "motivated by Jihadist ideology."
Barr says 21 Saudi military students are being removed from the US training program and returning home.
Barr and FBI Deputy Director David Bowdich announced the findings of the criminal investigation in a press conference at the Department of Justice.
Accused shooter 21-year-old Mohammed Alshamrani, a 2nd LT in the Royal Saudi Air Force, allegedly killed three U.S. sailors and injured several others. Authorities say the attack ended with a sheriff’s deputy killing the shooter.

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Re: U.S. sending home 21 Saudi cadets, NAS Pensacola shooting an 'act of terrorism' [Re: jeh7mmmag] #7717050 01/14/20 02:29 AM
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Saw that on Fox. We had a thread on here several weeks ago when it happened.


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Re: U.S. sending home 21 Saudi cadets, NAS Pensacola shooting an 'act of terrorism' [Re: jeh7mmmag] #7717054 01/14/20 02:32 AM
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In the news when the shooting occurred it was reported that there were more than a 175 Saudis training in the US. The training was suspended at that time. But 21 is only a portion of 175. Are these the only ones caught with Jihadist crap and child porn? Where are the other 154 plus???


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Re: U.S. sending home 21 Saudi cadets, NAS Pensacola shooting an 'act of terrorism' [Re: dogcatcher] #7717078 01/14/20 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by dogcatcher
In the news when the shooting occurred it was reported that there were more than a 175 Saudis training in the US. The training was suspended at that time. But 21 is only a portion of 175. Are these the only ones caught with Jihadist crap and child porn? Where are the other 154 plus???

could be wrong but wasnt this the one also that had some go missing?


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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/10/us/pensacola-florida-shooting-saudi-students.html

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Pentagon Restricts Training for Saudi Military Students
More than 800 students from Saudi Arabia have been limited to classroom training in the wake of a shooting at a Pensacola Navy base that left three people dead.


Now we may have over 800 unaccounted for???


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Re: U.S. sending home 21 Saudi cadets, NAS Pensacola shooting an 'act of terrorism' [Re: bill oxner] #7717104 01/14/20 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by bill oxner
I simply don't understand the mentality. We have never shown them anything but kindness.

Some thing about the house of saud, rothchilds ,and soros being the three sides of the triangle. These three were pushing global domination. America stood in their way. America must be taken down. That and probably past administrations raping the middle east and setting up black agents on their land.


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Originally Posted by dogcatcher
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/10/us/pensacola-florida-shooting-saudi-students.html

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Pentagon Restricts Training for Saudi Military Students
More than 800 students from Saudi Arabia have been limited to classroom training in the wake of a shooting at a Pensacola Navy base that left three people dead.


Now we may have over 800 unaccounted for???

I guess these are the sleeper cell weve been told of . Funny thing is its obvious past admins brought them in to use again its people


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Re: U.S. sending home 21 Saudi cadets, NAS Pensacola shooting an 'act of terrorism' [Re: Tin Head] #7717137 01/14/20 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Tin Head

I guess these are the sleeper cell weve been told of . Funny thing is its obvious past admins brought them in to use again its people


Our military as been training them since the 1950's.


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Originally Posted by dogcatcher
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I guess these are the sleeper cell weve been told of . Funny thing is its obvious past admins brought them in to use again its people


Our military as been training them since the 1950's.


Yep, many muslim countries have been over here getting trained on the military equipment we sold them.

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Re: U.S. sending home 21 Saudi cadets, NAS Pensacola shooting an 'act of terrorism' [Re: dogcatcher] #7717147 01/14/20 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by dogcatcher
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I guess these are the sleeper cell weve been told of . Funny thing is its obvious past admins brought them in to use again its people


Our military as been training them since the 1950's.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_Arabia%E2%80%93United_States_relations
Despite the strong relationship between the two countries, opinion polls between the two nations show negative feelings between the American people and Saudi people in recent years, particularly American feelings towards the desert kingdom. A poll of Saudis by Zogby International (2002) and BBC (between October 2005 and January 2006) found 51% of Saudis had hostile feelings towards the American people in 2002;[10] in 2005/2006, Saudi public opinion was sharply divided with 38% viewing U.S. influence positively and 38% viewing U.S. influence negatively.[8] As of 2012, Saudi Arabian students form the 4th largest group of international students studying in the United States, representing 3.5% of all foreigners pursuing higher education in the US.[11] A December 2013 poll found 57% of Americans polled had an unfavorable view of Saudi Arabia and 27% favorable.[9]

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Originally Posted by dogcatcher
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/10/us/pensacola-florida-shooting-saudi-students.html

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Pentagon Restricts Training for Saudi Military Students
More than 800 students from Saudi Arabia have been limited to classroom training in the wake of a shooting at a Pensacola Navy base that left three people dead.


Now we may have over 800 unaccounted for???



I can't read the full article with out signing up. But I don't get that from the paragraph you posted. Says we limited them to classroom training. Where did you get unaccounted for???

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Re: U.S. sending home 21 Saudi cadets, NAS Pensacola shooting an 'act of terrorism' [Re: ducknbass] #7717173 01/14/20 03:42 AM
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I can't read the full article within signing up. But I don't get that from the paragraph you posted. Says we limited them to classroom training. Where did you get unaccounted for???

I read the same as you, there were more then 800, and they sent 21 home. Where are the others???


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https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/dod...tudents-wake-pensacola/story?id=67636356

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DOD suspends operational training for all Saudi students in wake of Pensacola shooting
The move comes in the wake of the Naval Air Station Pensacola shootings.
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The Pentagon has taken “immediate steps to strengthen personnel vetting” for international military trainees and has grounded more than 300 Saudi aviation students at three Florida naval bases.
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Defense Secretary Mark Esper has directed a strengthening of the vetting procedures for foreign military students studying in the United States and ordered a review of current vetting procedures in the wake of the Pensacola shooting that killed three Navy sailors and wounded eight others.
Earlier on Tuesday, the Navy confirmed the suspension of flight trainingfor more than 300 Saudi military flight students, but it was part of a larger safety stand-down and operational pause that the Pentagon announced later in the day and that limits all 852 Saudi military students in the U.S. to receive only classroom instruction.

In a memorandum to Pentagon leadership on Tuesday, Esper directed that immediate steps to strengthen the current vetting process for international military students who train on U.S. bases and ordered a formal review of the process to be completed in 10 days. The review will look at current policies and procedures for screening foreign students and granting access to bases.
"I direct the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence (USD(I)) to take immediate steps to strengthen personnel vetting for International Military Students (IMS), and to complete a review within 10 days of policies and procedures for screening foreign students and granting access to our bases," Esper said in the memo.
"These efforts will seek to more closely align IMS vetting procedures with those we apply to U.S. personnel," he added. "With respect to specific training programs and personnel under their cognizance, the Secretaries of the Military Departments may take additional security measures as they see fit."
In the meantime, the 852 Saudi military students at U.S. military installations will not receive any operational training and will be limited to classroom instruction as part of a security and safety stand-down by the U.S. military services.
Esper said that the Pentagon is working closely with the Saudi government in its response to Friday’s deadly shooting incident that was carried out by a young Saudi air force officer.
"The secretary has placed a very high priority on this," a senior defense official said of the review.
Esper’s memo stressed the importance of the long-standing military education and training with Saudi Arabia, adding that the Defense Department has trained 28,000 Saudi students over the life of the bilateral security cooperation relationship "without serious incident."

Earlier the Navy had confirmed that 303 flight students based at Naval Air Station Pensacola and two other Navy bases in Florida would not be flying for an undetermined period of time.
"A safety stand-down and operational pause commenced Monday for Saudi Arabian aviation students at NAS Pensacola and NAS Whiting Field and NAS Mayport, Florida," said Lt. Commander Megan Isaac, a Navy spokesperson. "Classroom training is expected to resume this week for those students."

(MORE: Saudi pilot used gun loophole to buy murder weapon used in shooting at Pensacola air base, FBI says)
The operational pause affects 175 Saudi students based at Pensacola and Whiting Field naval air stations, in the Pensacola area, and 128 Saudi students at Naval Station Mayport, near Jacksonville, Florida.
There are a total of 272 international military students at NAS Pensacola from a variety of countries. According to the Defense Department there are currently 5,181 foreign students from 153 countries in the United States for DOD-led security cooperation related training across all of the military services.
The operational pause in flight training will not apply to students from countries other than Saudi Arabia.
Last Friday, Saudi Air Force 2nd Lt. Mohammed Alshamrani, a flight student at NAS Pensacola, used a handgun to shoot at fellow students in a classroom building at the base.


Mohammed Alshamrani in a photo released by the FBI.
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Three U.S. Navy sailors were killed in the shooting and eight other individuals were wounded by the gunfire. Alshamrani was killed in a firefight with local law enforcement officers who had responded to the scene.

(MORE: Trump keeps friendly tone with Saudis even as attack by Saudi national investigated as terror)
Killed in the shooting were Airman Mohammed Sameh Haitham, 19, of St. Petersburg, Florida; Airman Apprentice Cameron Scott Walters, 21, of Richmond Hill, Georgia; and Ensign Joshua Kaleb Watson, 23, from Enterprise, Alabama.
The FBI is leading the investigation into the shooting and among other things continues to investigate whether Alshamrani acted alone or was part of a larger terror plot.
A senior defense official told reporters on Tuesday that they have not seen evidence to suggest a larger issue with Saudi students specifically.


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And he legally bought the Glock model 45 in 9mm by simply getting a hunting license?
That exception allows foreign nationals to buy guns if they have a valid state hunting license.
It's a loophole Florida lawmakers want to close.



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If we are gonna train them we should do it over there. What happens when one of those pilots is flying a live fire exercise loaded up with bombs/missiles and decides to go jihad? This is just stupid.

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And he legally bought the Glock model 45 in 9mm by simply getting a hunting license?
That exception allows foreign nationals to buy guns if they have a valid state hunting license.
It's a loophole Florida lawmakers want to close.



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