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GFCI Outlet Question(s) #7714553 01/11/20 06:20 PM
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Last night during the storms I had a single GFCI outlet trip that had nothing plugged into it. This morning I realized every outlet in the garage was dead so I went and checked the breakers which were fine. After a while I noticed the GFCI tripped. Two questions, what would cause it to trip with nothing plugged in inside an enclosed garage. Second, I noticed at least one other outlet had a GFCI sticker on it but no reset switch. When I reset the one that tripped all outlets started working again. Are these rigged in parallel off a since switch?

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Re: GFCI Outlet Question(s) [Re: krmitchell] #7714555 01/11/20 06:23 PM
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power surge, sounds like. lightning

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With no load on the outlet and not tripping the breaker?

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Re: GFCI Outlet Question(s) [Re: krmitchell] #7714559 01/11/20 06:26 PM
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I had to replace all mine in my house, I had about 10 of them would trip randomly. I have high voltage in my house, I replaced them all about 3 years ago, no more tripping. The originals were about 12 years old when I replaced them. I put some in with a little better trip voltage

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Yes, they are fed from secondary side of the GFI.


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IMO they are very sensitive

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Originally Posted by pdr55
Yes, they are fed from secondary side of the GFI.


The rest of the outlets in the garage?

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Originally Posted by krmitchell
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Yes, they are fed from secondary side of the GFI.


The rest of the outlets in the garage?

Push the test button.
The outlets that don’t have power are fed from that GFCI.


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Re: GFCI Outlet Question(s) [Re: krmitchell] #7714578 01/11/20 06:39 PM
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Not uncommon to find them wired like that, and I hate it. Lazy, cheap electricians in my opinion.

A nearby lightning strike will surely have what it takes to trip a GFCI, or destroy one. Is the GFCI needed there? Is there a sink nearby? GFCI ‘s will and do go bad, I replace them with good quality 20amp versions when they go.

The GFCI sticker is supposed to be on all down line plugs that are switched off with the GFCI plug. They never are though.


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Originally Posted by pdr55
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Yes, they are fed from secondary side of the GFI.


The rest of the outlets in the garage?

Push the test button.
The outlets that don’t have power are fed from that GFCI.


Are you sure?

One of my downstairs outlet in hall bath ran my GFCI in the MasterBath downstairs, when it wouldn't work in my Master I would have to reset it in the hall bath.

When my GFCI on the front door didn't work, I would have to reset it from garage GFCI.

My kitchen has 3 GFCI and it when it went out I reset the button in the kitchen

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Not uncommon to find them wired like that, and I hate it. Lazy, cheap electricians in my opinion.

A nearby lightning strike will surely have what it takes to trip a GFCI, or destroy one. Is the GFCI needed there? Is there a sink nearby? GFCI ‘s will and do go bad, I replace them with good quality 20amp versions when they go.

The GFCI sticker is supposed to be on all down line plugs that are switched off with the GFCI plug. They never are though.

Cast, a lot of city codes require any outlet in exterior locations, including inside garage be GFCI protected.


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I have two downstairs bedrooms, wired to a GFCI in an upstairs bathroom. Is there a way to move that GFCI downstairs?

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Originally Posted by RedRanger
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Yes, they are fed from secondary side of the GFI.


The rest of the outlets in the garage?

Push the test button.
The outlets that don’t have power are fed from that GFCI.


Are you sure?

One of my downstairs outlet in hall bath ran my GFCI in the MasterBath downstairs, when it wouldn't work in my Master I would have to reset it in the hall bath.

When my GFCI on the front door didn't work, I would have to reset it from garage GFCI.

My kitchen has 3 GFCI and it when it went out I reset the button in the kitchen



Was you house built by DR Horton too?!
Outside front reset in upstairs bath, outside back reset in master bedroom closet and/or garage/ and or master bath.
I just replaced all mine with newer versions with LED lights so I can actually see which one tripped.

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Typical track homebuilders gfci

One bathroom reset for all baths

One reset for kitchen and back side of bar top if a sink

Garage reset for garage, front back porch. Sprinkler, garage door motor plug, and dedicated freezer are not

Some bath tubs are prewired for a jacuzzi and will have its own.

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I have two downstairs bedrooms, wired to a GFCI in an upstairs bathroom. Is there a way to move that GFCI downstairs?

Thanks
Charlie.


Well, there’s a way but you don’t wanna know. Once the walls are closed you live with it. If it’s tripping a lot, replace it with a high quality 20 amp version.


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Originally Posted by Gary Olson


Was you house built by DR Horton too?!
Outside front reset in upstairs bath, outside back reset in master bedroom closet and/or garage/ and or master bath.
I just replaced all mine with newer versions with LED lights so I can actually see which one tripped.


Builder was Grand Homes

I am sure all the builders sub out the electrical, plumbing and HVAC

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So could an outlet downstream of the GFCI trip it? And I have a Horton home Gary.

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When it rains a lot (wind and rain) sometimes one in my bathroom will trip due to an exterior outlet on the same circuit getting too damp.

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Originally Posted by krmitchell
So could an outlet downstream of the GFCI trip it? And I have a Horton home Gary.


Yes, if wired correctly, all outlets are protected and any downstream outlet can trip the GFCI.


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Well, there’s a way but you don’t wanna know. Once the walls are closed you live with it. If it’s tripping a lot, replace it with a high quality 20 amp version.


That's what I thought the answer would be, thanks.

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Originally Posted by krmitchell
So could an outlet downstream of the GFCI trip it? And I have a Horton home Gary.


That's what they're designed to do... multiple standard outlets, protected by a single GFCI. Any one in the string can trip it.

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Originally Posted by Cast
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So could an outlet downstream of the GFCI trip it? And I have a Horton home Gary.


Yes, if wired correctly, all outlets are protected and any downstream outlet can trip the GFCI.

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So could an outlet downstream of the GFCI trip it? And I have a Horton home Gary.


That's what they're designed to do... multiple standard outlets, protected by a single GFCI. Any one in the string can trip it.

Charlie


Thanks, more I think about it the Xmas lights were on one of these plugs and the plug on the front porch is as well so it makes sense now why one of these got tripped.

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Circuit also feeds the plugs on your front or back porch. One might have gotten some moisture in it.


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Originally Posted by Tbar
Circuit also feeds the plugs on your front or back porch. One might have gotten some moisture in it.

Yep, this is what I was thinking.

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