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Sightmark Wraith-First Weekend Hunt Review #7709199 01/06/20 01:43 PM
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Several years ago I made my first foray into night hunting when I picked up an AR off the forum here that already had a Sightmark Photon XT scope mounted on it. After using it with success for over a year, and after much discussion with Jason at Outdoor Legacy Gear I purchased a FLIR PTS536 thermal scope and pretty much shelved the Photon NV scope unit. When the initial reviews for the Wraith came out, I contacted Jason and told him to put me on the list for one, with the intention of using it as a back-up or loaner scope. It took me a while to get the scope mounted and ready to go. First, I did not want to modify my thermal set up, and second, I was waiting on my suppressor to be returned from servicing (long story- almost 2 years!).
So last weekend I got everything assembled and was ready to sight in the scope.
The rifle is a S&W chambered in 300 Whisper (I'm shooting 300BO), and a titanium 30 cal suppressor. I had an assortment of 300BO factory loads on hand so off to the bench we went...
[Linked Image]

I shot a number of the loads and all performed well. Shot up all my targets trying the scope out.
1. The zeroing process is very simple and works well. Like many digital scopes, shoot a couple rounds, keep the rifle stable and move the crosshair to the point of impact.
2. Daytime resolution of the scope is good, you do get a slight "tv-like pixellation" when moving the scope rapidly but it's not too bad.
3. The controls are well laid out and intuitive.

I ended up with a partial box left so I pulled off 7 rounds at the feed sack and had good results. The outlier is my fault... smile
[Linked Image]

Friday night I set up in one of my boxes with both the FLIR thermal on a 6.8 and the Wraith on the 300BO. Almost as soon as I got situated, I turned the thermal on and there was a hog under the feeder 85 yards away. I put down the thermal and picked up the Wraith and popped the hog between the ear and shoulder and he, of course, flopped right in the mudhole under the feeder.

Observations:
1. When you turn on the Wraith, it defaults to daytime mode. You have to switch it to night mode.
2. Unlike the Photon, if you don't turn on the provided IR illuminator, you won't see anything but a black screen. It was a bright moonlit night and I couldn't see anything through the Wraith with native light.
3. Pulling a heavy hog out of a sticky mudhole by an ear is difficult and messy.
[Linked Image]

About 2 hours later, another hog showed up and I lined up on his shoulder with the Wraith and pulled the trigger.
Observations:
1. When you pull the trigger, the flash blanks (whites) out the scope. When it clears, hog may or may not be there.
2. Good luck figuring out which way the hog ran.

I called it a night about 10 and dragged the first hog to the edge of the field with a 4-wheeler for the clean-up crew to take care of.
Saturday afternoon I went and sat in a ladder stand over the hog feeder with a pistol for a while, hoping to catch an early-arriver at the feeder. Behind the ladder, about 75 yards away in the woods, I noticed movement. 3 coyotes were tugging and devouring the 2nd hog from last night. I watched them for a while, then the wind finally shifted a bit and they left right around dark so I went back to the house to grab a bite before heading out again.
After dark I took the thermal and the Wraith and went to another box overlooking a 12 acre field. The routine was to scan with the thermal, then read the forum for a bit, then scan again, etc.
Observations:
1. The thermal is much better for scanning (duh).
2. I watched one hog back in the woods around 125 yards away for approximately 45 minutes as he was eating acorns. I could see him clearly with the thermal, but could not see small branches between me and him. Then I'd pick up the Wraith, and could see all the branches and the view was pretty much "washed out", except I could occasionally pick up a reflecting eye.
3. He left and went deeper into the woods.

Around 11:15 I picked up the thermal for a last look and saw a large hog coming into the field at about 250 yards away. He was working his way towards me in the wheat field, so I put down the thermal and picked up the Wraith. I could see him clearly at 150 yards, and waited until he got to 100 yards and shot him in the chest. He went straight down, then kicked up dirt for a bit.
[Linked Image]

I dragged him off with the 4-wheeler then called it a night.

So all in all, I like the Wraith a lot. It's a very good "entry-level" scope for anyone wanting to get into night hunting.

Pros:
1. Relatively inexpensive.
2. Uses AA batteries for the main unit, more pricey CR123 for the illuminator.
3. Easy to sight in.
4. Intuitive menu setup.
5. Good resolution out to 200 yards+

Cons:
1. Default to "day" mode when turning on
2. No ambient light visibility- must have IR illuminator on.
3. "White-out" from muzzle flash temporarily obscures view of what just happened when you pulled the trigger.

All in all, I'd recommend the Wraith. It will never replace thermal for me, but it is definitely usable and something good to keep around when you need a loaner.

As far as the 300BO, even though it was 3 shots, 3 hogs, I don't like it's performance as much as my 6.8SPC or 6.5 Grendel on hogs. And, of course, the load that I sighted it in with (which I had a bunch of on hand) has been discontinued. It was PNW ARMS 125 gr Nosler Ballistic Tip. Next weekend I'm going to try the Remington Hog Hammer with the 130 gr TSX and see how it does.


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Just sighted in my Wraith this past weekend. Looking forward to getting it in the field this coming weekend.

Something I will offer up, When attaching the IR light, I first used an allen wrench thru the holes in the thumb screw. Upon getting it seemingly tight, mine was still a bit loose on the mount. I tightened it a good bit more, and the thumbscrew/stud broke off. Turns out, when running something thru both holes in the thumbscrew and trying to tighten it up, the stud bottomed out on the allen wrench, and when I applied more torque it broke the stud off because it was bound up. Something I should have realized before, just thought I'd relate it here and maybe someone can avoid my mistake. Luckily I have another IR light and mount, so I was able to install it. I called Sightmark and told them what happened, and they are sending me a new mount for free even though I told them it was my fault and wasn't looking for anything free. That's great customer service.



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Re: Sightmark Wraith-First Weekend Hunt Review [Re: psycho0819] #7709374 01/06/20 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by psycho0819
Just sighted in my Wraith this past weekend. Looking forward to getting it in the field this coming weekend.

Something I will offer up, When attaching the IR light, I first used an allen wrench thru the holes in the thumb screw. Upon getting it seemingly tight, mine was still a bit loose on the mount. I tightened it a good bit more, and the thumbscrew/stud broke off. Turns out, when running something thru both holes in the thumbscrew and trying to tighten it up, the stud bottomed out on the allen wrench, and when I applied more torque it broke the stud off because it was bound up. Something I should have realized before, just thought I'd relate it here and maybe someone can avoid my mistake. Luckily I have another IR light and mount, so I was able to install it. I called Sightmark and told them what happened, and they are sending me a new mount for free even though I told them it was my fault and wasn't looking for anything free. That's great customer service.



That's similar to what I noticed- after attaching the IR source, there was a good bit of play in the light. I assumed it was because of the limited surface area of the mount to the light, and snugged it up best I could without over-torquing it.

One thing that might be obvious to you but it took me a minute to figure it out- when I first switched on the IR light at night, the entire screen was washed out white in the Wraith. Took me a minute to figure out the focus was all the way in and the beam was so wide it was blinding the scope. I adjusted it out and it was fine then.


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I do like their IR light mount though. The ball and socket design allows one to aim the light to the point of impact instead of having to light up a large area just to get the IR to shine on the POI area (since the light is offset to one side). Once adjusted, the light can be secured into position by tightening the smaller screws. Only thing I didn't like about it, is their light doesn't use a 1" tube/ring like many others do, so their mount is proprietary to their light. I think the IR light I previously owned is actually better (field test yet to come), but can't use it with their mount, and haven't been able to find a mount similar to theirs for a 1" tube.


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Thanks for the review. Is there any reason for someone who already owns a Photon RT to replace it with a Wraith?


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The Sightmark web site has a firmware update that should end the "default to daytime issue. I did the update, but haven't yet checked that. I DID notice that the update improved the tendency of my unit to need refocusing when increasing magnification. I also have a Photon and will keep it--its a good scope, just different.

The Wraiths recording feature is pretty neat, especially for a guy with ten thumbs like me! Here's a daytime pic taken off video:

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Re: Sightmark Wraith-First Weekend Hunt Review [Re: ImTheReasonDovesMourn] #7710164 01/07/20 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by ImTheReasonDovesMourn
Thanks for the review. Is there any reason for someone who already owns a Photon RT to replace it with a Wraith?


Sure- didn’t want to take the XT off what it was mounted on, the XT, although useable during the day, isn’t as good as the Wraith. The price is good, and the reviews were good.


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Thanks so much for the purchase and the shout out! cheers The review was great and I won't disagree with a single thing you said, the pros and cons are dead on. For me, the biggest thing is just the fact that it's a real value at $499. I don't think you can beat it for the money. And Dennis is right, the latest firmware update fixes the daytime mode issue. Here is latest firmware and info http://sm-wraith.com/firmware/

ImTheReasonDovesMourn, that's a good question about the RT and my answer is.....if you're perfectly happy with the RT, I'd stick with it. If you like the idea of the full color day time mode, the Wraith is extremely appealing. I believe the menu system and buttons are much easier to navigate and control on the Wraith than the Photon RT but Photon will record audio and it has a smart phone app, 2 things the Wraith HD can't do. So at the end of the day, if you're hankering for a new scope, I'd say buy a Wraith but if you're happy with what you've got, no huge reason to make the leap now.

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Originally Posted by TX_LT230FH
Originally Posted by ImTheReasonDovesMourn
Thanks for the review. Is there any reason for someone who already owns a Photon RT to replace it with a Wraith?


Sure- didn’t want to take the XT off what it was mounted on, the XT, although useable during the day, isn’t as good as the Wraith. The price is good, and the reviews were good.



Sorry, Doves- I thought you were asking me why I would choose to replace my XT with a Wraith. Like Jason says, if I had an RT instead of the XT I probably would have not replaced it. But then I like new shiny things and Jason makes it too easy to get them..... grin


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Originally Posted by TX_LT230FH
2. Unlike the Photon, if you don't turn on the provided IR illuminator, you won't see anything but a black screen. It was a bright moonlit night and I couldn't see anything through the Wraith with native light.


Nice review, and very timely. Was just looking at those this morning. As for cons, well, the IR light requirement is for all digital night vision scopes. They are simply a camera sensor with the IR filter removed for night vision and put back in place for day vision. All camera sensors can detect IR light. The Photon is a photo intensifier tube and while it will benefit from added IR light, it amplifies the ambient light already available to give some vision without IR turned on.

I already have an ATN 4K 3-14, but the Wraith looked like a decent offering with higher magnification.

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Originally Posted by TX_LT230FH
Several years ago I made my first foray into night hunting when I picked up an AR off the forum here that already had a Sightmark Photon XT scope mounted on it. After using it with success for over a year, and after much discussion with Jason at Outdoor Legacy Gear I purchased a FLIR PTS536 thermal scope and pretty much shelved the Photon NV scope unit. When the initial reviews for the Wraith came out, I contacted Jason and told him to put me on the list for one, with the intention of using it as a back-up or loaner scope. It took me a while to get the scope mounted and ready to go. First, I did not want to modify my thermal set up, and second, I was waiting on my suppressor to be returned from servicing (long story- almost 2 years!).
So last weekend I got everything assembled and was ready to sight in the scope.
The rifle is a S&W chambered in 300 Whisper (I'm shooting 300BO), and a titanium 30 cal suppressor. I had an assortment of 300BO factory loads on hand so off to the bench we went...
[Linked Image]

I shot a number of the loads and all performed well. Shot up all my targets trying the scope out.
1. The zeroing process is very simple and works well. Like many digital scopes, shoot a couple rounds, keep the rifle stable and move the crosshair to the point of impact.
2. Daytime resolution of the scope is good, you do get a slight "tv-like pixellation" when moving the scope rapidly but it's not too bad.
3. The controls are well laid out and intuitive.

I ended up with a partial box left so I pulled off 7 rounds at the feed sack and had good results. The outlier is my fault... smile
[Linked Image]

Friday night I set up in one of my boxes with both the FLIR thermal on a 6.8 and the Wraith on the 300BO. Almost as soon as I got situated, I turned the thermal on and there was a hog under the feeder 85 yards away. I put down the thermal and picked up the Wraith and popped the hog between the ear and shoulder and he, of course, flopped right in the mudhole under the feeder.

Observations:
1. When you turn on the Wraith, it defaults to daytime mode. You have to switch it to night mode.
2. Unlike the Photon, if you don't turn on the provided IR illuminator, you won't see anything but a black screen. It was a bright moonlit night and I couldn't see anything through the Wraith with native light.
3. Pulling a heavy hog out of a sticky mudhole by an ear is difficult and messy.
[Linked Image]

About 2 hours later, another hog showed up and I lined up on his shoulder with the Wraith and pulled the trigger.
Observations:
1. When you pull the trigger, the flash blanks (whites) out the scope. When it clears, hog may or may not be there.
2. Good luck figuring out which way the hog ran.

I called it a night about 10 and dragged the first hog to the edge of the field with a 4-wheeler for the clean-up crew to take care of.
Saturday afternoon I went and sat in a ladder stand over the hog feeder with a pistol for a while, hoping to catch an early-arriver at the feeder. Behind the ladder, about 75 yards away in the woods, I noticed movement. 3 coyotes were tugging and devouring the 2nd hog from last night. I watched them for a while, then the wind finally shifted a bit and they left right around dark so I went back to the house to grab a bite before heading out again.
After dark I took the thermal and the Wraith and went to another box overlooking a 12 acre field. The routine was to scan with the thermal, then read the forum for a bit, then scan again, etc.
Observations:
1. The thermal is much better for scanning (duh).
2. I watched one hog back in the woods around 125 yards away for approximately 45 minutes as he was eating acorns. I could see him clearly with the thermal, but could not see small branches between me and him. Then I'd pick up the Wraith, and could see all the branches and the view was pretty much "washed out", except I could occasionally pick up a reflecting eye.
3. He left and went deeper into the woods.

Around 11:15 I picked up the thermal for a last look and saw a large hog coming into the field at about 250 yards away. He was working his way towards me in the wheat field, so I put down the thermal and picked up the Wraith. I could see him clearly at 150 yards, and waited until he got to 100 yards and shot him in the chest. He went straight down, then kicked up dirt for a bit.
[Linked Image]

I dragged him off with the 4-wheeler then called it a night.

So all in all, I like the Wraith a lot. It's a very good "entry-level" scope for anyone wanting to get into night hunting.

Pros:
1. Relatively inexpensive.
2. Uses AA batteries for the main unit, more pricey CR123 for the illuminator.
3. Easy to sight in.
4. Intuitive menu setup.
5. Good resolution out to 200 yards+

Cons:
1. Default to "day" mode when turning on
2. No ambient light visibility- must have IR illuminator on.
3. "White-out" from muzzle flash temporarily obscures view of what just happened when you pulled the trigger.

All in all, I'd recommend the Wraith. It will never replace thermal for me, but it is definitely usable and something good to keep around when you need a loaner.

As far as the 300BO, even though it was 3 shots, 3 hogs, I don't like it's performance as much as my 6.8SPC or 6.5 Grendel on hogs. And, of course, the load that I sighted it in with (which I had a bunch of on hand) has been discontinued. It was PNW ARMS 125 gr Nosler Ballistic Tip. Next weekend I'm going to try the Remington Hog Hammer with the 130 gr TSX and see how it does.

I have the identical rifle, your's is the first I've seen like mine. I have killed a lot of good sized hogs using ammo I get from a THF member, Custom Reloads of Dallas. It's 120 gr Hornady SST, I believe its 2240 fps. I get great accuracy and awesome performance on hogs. Never shot that ammo past 150 yards, but wouldn't hesitate to. I believe he stocks this.


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Originally Posted by onlysmith&wesson
I have the identical rifle, your's is the first I've seen like mine. I have killed a lot of good sized hogs using ammo I get from a THF member, Custom Reloads of Dallas. It's 120 gr Hornady SST, I believe its 2240 fps. I get great accuracy and awesome performance on hogs. Never shot that ammo past 150 yards, but wouldn't hesitate to. I believe he stocks this.


Yeah, I have not seen many of the S&W rifles in 300. I picked mine up for a deal many years ago during the ammo shortage when you couldn't find 300 BO anywhere. Someone had bought it, got fed up trying to find ammo and returned it to the store.
I have some of the ammo you speak of- Chad loaded it for me back during the drought. Unfortunately, I had multiple problems with the ammo. Pull the trigger, click, couldn't extract the round, have to break the rifle down and push the round out with a cleaning rod. We finally figured out it was because the loads I had gotten were some that had mixed in re-sized 223 brass (since you could hardly find 300BO brass). I guess the chamber in the Smith was not liking it. Anyway, Chad and I figured it out and I've been shooting the other loads ever since.


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Originally Posted by TX_LT230FH
Originally Posted by onlysmith&wesson
I have the identical rifle, your's is the first I've seen like mine. I have killed a lot of good sized hogs using ammo I get from a THF member, Custom Reloads of Dallas. It's 120 gr Hornady SST, I believe its 2240 fps. I get great accuracy and awesome performance on hogs. Never shot that ammo past 150 yards, but wouldn't hesitate to. I believe he stocks this.


Yeah, I have not seen many of the S&W rifles in 300. I picked mine up for a deal many years ago during the ammo shortage when you couldn't find 300 BO anywhere. Someone had bought it, got fed up trying to find ammo and returned it to the store.
I have some of the ammo you speak of- Chad loaded it for me back during the drought. Unfortunately, I had multiple problems with the ammo. Pull the trigger, click, couldn't extract the round, have to break the rifle down and push the round out with a cleaning rod. We finally figured out it was because the loads I had gotten were some that had mixed in re-sized 223 brass (since you could hardly find 300BO brass). I guess the chamber in the Smith was not liking it. Anyway, Chad and I figured it out and I've been shooting the other loads ever since.

This was my first, and to date only AR. I wanted the platform, but wanted something that would do more terminal damage than 5.56. You have 5R barrel? I do, and a Remington 700 5R Milpsec with a 5R barrel. Both are very good shooters. I'm getting an AR10 in 6.5 Creedmoor. I'm looking hard at S&W MP10 from their performance center. It also comes with a 5R Barrel.


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I have the exact same set up (S&W 300 Blackout, Wraith Scope) I've found that an aftermarket IR Light greatly increases distance and Visibility, and mounted under the Barrel, you don't get the "Whiteout" from Muzzle blast and can see your Shot.

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I am looking at this Scope to put on my Ruger AR 350 Legend. Tempted to give it a try.

Thanks for the feedback, I also watched the Outdoor Legacy youtube video review.

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Update. I downloaded the firmware from the link Jason provided and now the Wraith remembers the last setting (day or night mode) after shutting down. I’m glad I followed the advice of checking zero because it lost it. Got it back close with the last of the PNW loads I had then switched to the 130 grain Remington Hog Hammer loaded with the TSX all copper bullet. The top target aim point was the junction between the outer circle and the upper orange rectangle. Shot the first round low right then moved the crosshairs then shot the other 9 in the magazine. Hopefully I’ll get to try the TSX load on some hogs after I get back from India.
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