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Ruger 57
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12/31/19 05:50 PM
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Dalee7892
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What do y'all think about the new Ruger 57, 5.7x28? Full size 1911.
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Re: Ruger 57
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12/31/19 06:17 PM
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MSRP 799. If street price is around 500 i will probably pick one up for sh!t$ and gigs.
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Re: Ruger 57
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12/31/19 06:27 PM
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That is not even kinda a 1911. But I like it.
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Re: Ruger 57
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12/31/19 06:34 PM
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MSRP 799. If street price is around 500 i will probably pick one up for sh!t$ and gigs. Yup. Hope they make a threaded model.
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Re: Ruger 57
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12/31/19 07:09 PM
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Looks cool, might have to try one out of the price is right.
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Re: Ruger 57
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12/31/19 07:14 PM
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I’d never heard of it
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Re: Ruger 57
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12/31/19 08:52 PM
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Re: Ruger 57
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12/31/19 09:11 PM
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Thus far, the few 5.7 ammo manufactures have been supporting people with 1000+ dollar guns so there's not a lot of demand for the round. I sure hope they are already churning out more ammo, because I don't think current production can keep up with a 500.00 gun from Ruger being released.
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Re: Ruger 57
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01/01/20 01:39 AM
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I have 3 preordered from a major Wholesale warehouse. Don't have a solid price yet, going to be close to $700. (all I got on cost was a "about" price) Comes with 2 20 rd mags, I ordered 6 extra mags, Don't have a price or part # on the mags. (yet) 1 is spoken for as well as 2 extra mags!
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Re: Ruger 57
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01/01/20 01:44 AM
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I have 3 preordered from a major Wholesale warehouse. What will you list for?
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Re: Ruger 57
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01/01/20 03:24 PM
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I looked into the handgun ballistic characteristics of the 5.7 x 28 years ago. I felt like it was simply offering high magazine capacity at the expense of reduced energy delivered on target - as compared to other handgun calibers available. (Using AP rounds is a whole different story, just like it is with other calibers.)
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Re: Ruger 57
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01/01/20 04:16 PM
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Aw damn...I hadn't heard of this and I just sold all of my 5.7x28...ruh roh..must quit looking...
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Re: Ruger 57
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01/01/20 04:23 PM
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What is the 5.7x28 comparable to? .45, .40. 9mm, .380? Never heard of it....looks interesting.... EDIT: found this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN_5.7×28mm
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Re: Ruger 57
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01/01/20 05:13 PM
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In making this cartridge FN pretty much took the 25 ACP round and made it longer then necked it down to .224 for 22 cal bullets. It basically in performance is a modern 22 Hornet varmint round but I dang sure do not want to be hit with one. There is military ammo that is not sold to the public with different bullets loaded up. The FN57 pistol was used by the shooter at Fort Hood a few years ago, ] It is not a round that very many try to reload as in most of the guns it is chambered in the shoulder is pushed forward a bit with the acti0n starting to open before the pressure is off does push it forward. Also they come with a finish that scraps off during cycling and is there for slicker feeding in the small P90 military weapon. Neat little round that most of the ammo you see on shelves are either FN or Federal loads a FMJ round.
lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true Mainstream news might be fun to watch
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Re: Ruger 57
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01/01/20 05:37 PM
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Would it make a good home defense or varmint round?
Twenty hot rounds in a pistol seems like it would be good.
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Re: Ruger 57
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01/01/20 06:36 PM
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Would it make a good home defense or varmint round?
Twenty hot rounds in a pistol seems like it would be good. I’d reckon I’d reckon it would be a good pig hunting pistol too
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01/01/20 06:59 PM
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Seems like it would make a really nice pistol for shooting varmints out the ranger or truck or whatever you happen to be riding around in.
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Re: Ruger 57
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01/01/20 07:04 PM
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Hopefully it sells well and Ruger makes a bolt gun in 5.7
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Re: Ruger 57
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01/01/20 07:21 PM
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Would it make a good home defense or varmint round?
Twenty hot rounds in a pistol seems like it would be good. Yes, especially for a small framed person Hint
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Re: Ruger 57
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01/01/20 07:53 PM
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I think i would rather have a 357 sig if i was looking for a high stepping auto pistol. According to hodgdon 90 grains at almost 1700 fps out of a 4 inch barrel. And sig barrels are cheap, hell guns in sig are probably cheap. I have not loaded for sig, but max hodgdon 40 loads have been right on in my gun.
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Re: Ruger 57
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01/03/20 01:38 AM
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I think i would rather have a 357 sig if i was looking for a high stepping auto pistol. According to hodgdon 90 grains at almost 1700 fps out of a 4 inch barrel. And sig barrels are cheap, hell guns in sig are probably cheap. I have not loaded for sig, but max hodgdon 40 loads have been right on in my gun. I do not disagree, but this round has nowhere near the 357 Sig's energy level. Heck, compare it to a 9mm +P and tell me what you see. I will bet that it is a fun round to play with for sure, but the raw energy delivered on target really is not all that impressive. Will it kill? Oh, heck yes - but so will a lot of rounds. In a P90 Bullpup loaded with AP rounds, the attraction changes. THAT is what it was designed to do - anti-personnel up close and tight, with a high rate of fire if needed, including penetration with AP rounds. Again, I have nothing bad to say about it. I am just expressing how I see it without the mystique. However, it seems that I am off base because the demand is clearly there, so I suspect that I need to be educated. Marc
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Re: Ruger 57
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01/03/20 02:14 AM
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I think i would rather have a 357 sig if i was looking for a high stepping auto pistol. According to hodgdon 90 grains at almost 1700 fps out of a 4 inch barrel. And sig barrels are cheap, hell guns in sig are probably cheap. I have not loaded for sig, but max hodgdon 40 loads have been right on in my gun. I do not disagree, but this round has nowhere near the 357 Sig's energy level. Heck, compare it to a 9mm +P and tell me what you see. I will bet that it is a fun round to play with for sure, but the raw energy delivered on target really is not all that impressive. Will it kill? Oh, heck yes - but so will a lot of rounds. In a P90 Bullpup loaded with AP rounds, the attraction changes. THAT is what it was designed to do - anti-personnel up close and tight, with a high rate of fire if needed, including penetration with AP rounds. Again, I have nothing bad to say about it. I am just expressing how I see it without the mystique. However, it seems that I am off base because the demand is clearly there, so I suspect that I need to be educated. Marc I think maybe you misunderstood what I was saying. The data i listed was for the 357 sig, not the 5.7. I think the 5.7 in a pistol, and a rifle too really, is kinda pointless. Basically you and i seem to agree. Unless i am misunderstanding you :-)
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Re: Ruger 57
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01/03/20 06:21 AM
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This is awesome! I've been considering a 5.7 for several years now, and been looking real hard at them lately. I fondled the FN rifle & pistol 2 weeks ago and almost picked one up, but didn't because of the price. I know a few folks that own them and love them, fast flat shooting and accurate at extended range is all I hear about (and loud). A few of the SWAT guys in my neck of the woods carry them also, and they've had nothing but good to say about the round.
I'll be buying this Ruger for sure now. I want!
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01/03/20 01:43 PM
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I think i would rather have a 357 sig if i was looking for a high stepping auto pistol. According to hodgdon 90 grains at almost 1700 fps out of a 4 inch barrel. And sig barrels are cheap, hell guns in sig are probably cheap. I have not loaded for sig, but max hodgdon 40 loads have been right on in my gun. I do not disagree, but this round has nowhere near the 357 Sig's energy level. Heck, compare it to a 9mm +P and tell me what you see. I will bet that it is a fun round to play with for sure, but the raw energy delivered on target really is not all that impressive. Will it kill? Oh, heck yes - but so will a lot of rounds. In a P90 Bullpup loaded with AP rounds, the attraction changes. THAT is what it was designed to do - anti-personnel up close and tight, with a high rate of fire if needed, including penetration with AP rounds. Again, I have nothing bad to say about it. I am just expressing how I see it without the mystique. However, it seems that I am off base because the demand is clearly there, so I suspect that I need to be educated. Marc I think maybe you misunderstood what I was saying. The data i listed was for the 357 sig, not the 5.7. I think the 5.7 in a pistol, and a rifle too really, is kinda pointless. Basically you and i seem to agree. Unless i am misunderstanding you :-) Yes, sir - we are on the same page. Read my first sentence again. Marc
A Democracy is when two wolves and a lamb vote on the dinner menu. That is why this country was specifically not designed as a Democracy. We are a Constitutional Republic.
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Re: Ruger 57
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01/03/20 09:10 PM
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Saw one being picked up at GrabAGun today. Neat looking pistol.
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