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It's the 1400's and your Native American. #7697249 12/24/19 02:58 AM
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It's pre Columbus with only the materials/equipment available at the time, how do you feed your family? I'm talking hunting, methods of hunting, equipment and materials used.


Yes! A Weatherby does kill them deader.
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You probably didn’t hunt much. Most Indians of that era were more or less scavengers. No horses to speak of, only crude tools to acquire food.

I would probably try and catch some turtles or some ground birds but probably failing that, catch some snakes or lizards


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Chase a buffalo off a cliff, then dry out the meat for jerky, after a lot of bison blackstrap steaks!


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They used the atlatls and later the bow and arrows.


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Just a few weeks ago during a cold snap my FIL were talking of Indian times

If you were more than about 3 feet away from a fire, most likely you were cold

Seems pretty rough

And I never figured out why some tribes stayed in the Dakotas or anywhere up north for that matter

Surely they found out the more south the warmer after time. But idk

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Originally Posted by procraft05
Just a few weeks ago during a cold snap my FIL were talking of Indian times

If you were more than about 3 feet away from a fire, most likely you were cold

Seems pretty rough

And I never figured out why some tribes stayed in the Dakotas or anywhere up north for that matter

Surely they found out the more south the warmer after time. But idk


While studying the history of the Apache, there was numerous stories about their migration from the "Great North".


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Here you go everything you wanted to know about the atlatls
https://texasbeyondhistory.net/ceremonial/images/hafted-about.html


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Re: It's the 1400's and your Native American. [Re: dogcatcher] #7697280 12/24/19 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by dogcatcher
Originally Posted by procraft05
Just a few weeks ago during a cold snap my FIL were talking of Indian times

If you were more than about 3 feet away from a fire, most likely you were cold

Seems pretty rough

And I never figured out why some tribes stayed in the Dakotas or anywhere up north for that matter

Surely they found out the more south the warmer after time. But idk


While studying the history of the Apache, there was numerous stories about their migration from the "Great North".


That’s interesting.

Still makes we wonder why big tribes like the Sioux and Crow stayed.

The Comanches had a pretty good area and I can understand their choice

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Originally Posted by txtrophy85
You probably didn’t hunt much. Most Indians of that era were more or less scavengers. No horses to speak of, only crude tools to acquire food.

I would probably try and catch some turtles or some ground birds but probably failing that, catch some snakes or lizards




Yep they were on foot, no horses until the Spaniards showed up. Different areas required different means, here in West Texas shows signs that they hunted over and around water allot. These old playa lakes all have old camp sites around them along with creeks and springs. Birds and whatever else came to water was targeted. Go to the hill country east and you see middens full of shell debris where they ate freshwater mussels, crayfish, snails and fish. Seemed to be allot more surface water back then along with springs and creeks.


Yes! A Weatherby does kill them deader.
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Originally Posted by procraft05


That’s interestingStill makes we wonder why big tribes like the Sioux and Crow stayed.

The Comanches had a pretty good area and I can understand their choice


The tribes had their own rough territorial areas. Going into another's "backyard" meant fighting for possession.


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Late era Pre-Columbian people, who were thousands of years later from the true indigenous people of North America but were present when European travelers arrived, were mainly farmers and were quite accomplished at it. They knew there was no need to chase it down if they grew it. They were accomplished hunters and fisherman too, but meat was much less of their diet than farming.

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The shift from the atlatl and dart to the bow and arrow ca. between A.D 500-1000 was a change in weapons technology that occurred across all of North America. The greater efficiency, range, and mobility provided by bow and arrow technology no doubt made it a preferred weaponry system.


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Originally Posted by ntxtrapper
Late era Pre-Columbian people, who were thousands of years later from the true indigenous people of North America but were present when European travelers arrived, were mainly farmers and were quite accomplished at it. They knew there was no need to chase it down if they grew it. They were accomplished hunters and fisherman too, but meat was much less of their diet than farming.


Being farmers in those days seems tough too

My wife was hell bent on an all natural garden a few years ago

It sucked lemme tell ya. Water, plants and dirt

I saved it with Miracle Grow

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Originally Posted by procraft05
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Late era Pre-Columbian people, who were thousands of years later from the true indigenous people of North America but were present when European travelers arrived, were mainly farmers and were quite accomplished at it. They knew there was no need to chase it down if they grew it. They were accomplished hunters and fisherman too, but meat was much less of their diet than farming.


Being farmers in those days seems tough too

My wife was hell bent on an all natural garden a few years ago

It sucked lemme tell ya. Water, plants and dirt

I saved it with Miracle Grow


They chose areas with good soil and likely water but drought would cause starvation. Hard living when 40 was considered elderly.

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I bet the majority of the meat they ate was fish. Killing an animal like a deer or buffalo was probably more rare than we think.

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Originally Posted by DocHorton
I bet the majority of the meat they ate was fish. Killing an animal like a deer or buffalo was probably more rare than we think.


Prior to horses I bet it was very rare.


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Originally Posted by DocHorton
I bet the majority of the meat they ate was fish. Killing an animal like a deer or buffalo was probably more rare than we think.


Maybe but possum, squirrel, rabbits and coons don’t require a horse to catch, kill or trap. I imagine those animals were regular table fare.

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Originally Posted by DocHorton
I bet the majority of the meat they ate was fish. Killing an animal like a deer or buffalo was probably more rare than we think.


I would think they ate a lot of fish....they could make crude nets and fish traps. Probably made crude traps and snares to catch small game. They probably ate a lot of things we would not think of like roots and bugs. I think I have read that they made flour for bread from things like acorns and mesquite beans.

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Most game was snared just like they do in Africa. So, I would be setting snares and building fish traps.

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I bet the majority of the meat they ate was fish. Killing an animal like a deer or buffalo was probably more rare than we think.


I would think they ate a lot of fish....they could make crude nets and fish traps. Probably made crude traps and snares to catch small game. They probably ate a lot of things we would not think of like roots and bugs. I think I have read that they made flour for bread from things like acorns and mesquite beans.


I have seen animals as large as elephants and buffalo killed after being hung up in snares.

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A lot of this answer depends on where we are located.

If I were an Indian, I wouldn’t be staying in Texas most likely....no AC

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Originally Posted by HWY_MAN
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You probably didn’t hunt much. Most Indians of that era were more or less scavengers. No horses to speak of, only crude tools to acquire food.

I would probably try and catch some turtles or some ground birds but probably failing that, catch some snakes or lizards




Yep they were on foot, no horses until the Spaniards showed up. Different areas required different means, here in West Texas shows signs that they hunted over and around water allot. These old playa lakes all have old camp sites around them along with creeks and springs. Birds and whatever else came to water was targeted. Go to the hill country east and you see middens full of shell debris where they ate freshwater mussels, crayfish, snails and fish. Seemed to be allot more surface water back then along with springs and creeks.


I have excavated a few midden piles (Indian mounds). Snails and mussels by the 1000s, only a few buffalo teeth.
Like krm said, small game like coons, rabbit and possums were probably the easy ones.


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