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^^^^^^^^^^Seriously?

Did you forget what you wrote in the first post?

Had you said 300 yards, I wouldn't have even commented. But YOU said 500 yards, and I do that 52 weeks a year.

I will stop trying to help. No good deed goes unpunished.

The article that kmon 1 attached covers the 20-250 very well, about why the fellow wanted it. I enjoyed reading it. It’s all about getting and shooting what you want, though most folks don’t take it to that extreme. I always wanted a 220 Swift, and I have one. Now on barrel #2. I love vaporizing coyotes with it.

On another forum I frequent, one fellow has a serious need for speed. I think he got up to 4400 or 4500 FPS or a bit more with his 220. I don’t think the topic of appeasing the Gods of BC ever came up. He wanted to get to 5000 FPS, but that apparently was out of reach.

For some of us, BC isn’t such a religion. Not that we don’t acknowledge it, understand it, and appreciate the importance in some situations.

As for trying to ‘help’, Fireman, i didn’t see much help. All I saw was BC bullying. We all know what you do and can do in long range shooting and respect you for it, but not everyone wants to do what you do. If I wanted to shoot at 600 and further, you’d be my first call in the morning.

That's the article got me thinking about this, not going to stick as much money as he did into his but I'm pretty sure it will work. As for the Fireman he does it all the time, we're getting used to it. He's a BC guy and will never understand why someone like myself would want such a rig. 4500 fps is smoking, what bullet was he running?

I had never heard of the bullet he was running, he said his friend was running 40gr Nosler BT and liking the results from them at I think 4300 or so fps. The solid base might be helping there. There is something I like about being able to aim on the fur out past 300 yards.

Yep! You understand, Hell you shoot a 257 Weatherby, that's telling right there. Didn't you run some 80 grain pills through your 257? I've never run anything less than 87, would like to find something in 70 to 75 grain and see what it does, might get 4000.

100 barnes are as light as I went or hunting with the 257. Helped work up a load for the 257 with a coworker quite a few years ago with 80gr, do not remember the details.

I think we would all be better off if JG was our first call in the morning on every aspect of life.


He knows best and what's best for us, even if its 100% the opposite direction that what we want or sought advice over, or never asked about in the first place

I bought some 75 Vmax for a buddy's 257 Weatherby but never did load them for him. I've read the "splash" factor on those on coyotes is magnificent.

And i say go for it on the 20-250. 1. I've never gone out to my safe and said man I have too many guns. 2. If you hunt with it a while and discover the wind is just killing that little bullet too badly then well you can get another gun. 3. You will have another gun.

I ran 80 ttsx’s for a while (3850 I think). If you don’t push past 250’ish yards they are awesome.

Ive shot some coyotes and coons with 45 grain hollowpoints as fast as I could make them go out of a 223 and 90 grain hollowpoints out of a 270 win, they were devastating and nowhere near those speeds. Be neat to see how it turns out. Id like to read about it, so you should do it

Been shooting a 204 for several years now, 32 grain a little over 4200fps, makes a wicked thud on yotes. Also shoot a Rem 700 in 17 Fireball.
They do have their limits but man are they fun to shoot. Never once has a coyote told me i needed more bc, they did wish they had bc though....
a BC powder for the pain.

Per the Nosler loading book, latest version, the 35 gr LF bullet in the 22-250AI can be pushed to over 4600 FPS. Pretty sure I read that right. They showed the Swift at max 4400, but I have to think it’ll outdo the pretender (22-250AI). Might get to 4300 or 4400 with the 20-250. I’ll want to hear all about it.

I want to hear about it too. Good luck with the build

Got the Action.
Got the scope.
Trigger and stock have been ordered
Going to use a local gunsmith for this one, Bruce Broughton, if he's still making barrels I'll go with his.

Hornady has a 24gr NTX and a 32 gr V-Max looks pretty interesting.

Is Bruce still out there at Coahoma?

Good People.

Just my .02,
LeonCarr

Yes he is.

Played with 20 cals a little when the 204 first came out and just wasn't really impressed. It was heck in our north Texas wind but 20cal bullets weren't as abundant then. I really wanted to play with a hot rod 20 when berger released their 55gr bullet but I believe it's been discontinued since then.

Is there a abundance of coyotes where you are at?

Must be since you are building a dedicated coyote rifle.

About 10-12 years ago I shot 83 and I wasn't hunting them. That numbers have went down but I'm still averaging close to 25 a year. Since the Carnivore boys have been coming up I've laid off the yotes some. I only shoot what I see running around in the pastures and I see allot more than I pull the trigger on. Right now you can't see a damn thing for all the broom weed, it's shoulder high to a yearling doe and completely hides a yote or cat. Gary's going to have to get them close.

I think your idea sounds fun. I'm considering the .20 Practical, which is a short hair under your specs. It will push a 33gr. bullet to 4,255fps from a 24" barrel, but not going to get a 35-40gr to 4300-4400fps from its .223 parent case.

https://www.6mmbr.com/gunweek061.html

That right there kills us on coyote hunting. On our place what isn't brush is covered in 3+ foot tall knot head grass. If they (deer and coyotes alike) aren't standing in a mowed sendero feed pen road etc. you cant see them.

Mike, one can actually push a bullet too fast. Done this with 17 Rem and 204 Ruger. Bullets would blow up on the hair and not penetrate. Down right wicked on PD's though. Still prefer my Swifts. Good luck on your new build.

Falling on deaf ears, dee.

Speed is all that matters.

Bullying?

Never have I, and if you interpret my responses that way, that is on you.

HwyMan said 500 yards, not me. I don't know how much clearer that can be.

So 600 yards is where things get tricky? I beg to differ. I've seen hundreds of people come through, treated every one of them like they were the only person in the world, and 99% of them have never hit a single thing past a known 300 yards. And for good reason, lots of elevation correction and lots of wind correction happens past 300 yards for most cartridge/ bullet/ scope combos.

Says the guy that talked trash about the Mil/Mil scope for years, then got behind one after a little bit of instruction. And then sang its' praises on how much easier distance shooting was.

So save it.