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Re: Oklahoma officer takes out active shooter gets indicted for murder [Re: ntxtrapper] #7675346 11/29/19 04:49 AM
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If stuff like this continues, things will go bad quickly. There will be a tipping point where officers see the active shooter's vehicle in front of them, and rather than initiating a rolling gun battle, they won't say a word and will take the next exit out of self preservation. It will start happening, the absolute courage to be in a gunfight will be there, but the fear of the consequences in this new era of extreme police accountably, will make them not engage.

Re: Oklahoma officer takes out active shooter gets indicted for murder [Re: ntxtrapper] #7675371 11/29/19 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by ntxtrapper
If stuff like this continues, things will go bad quickly. There will be a tipping point where officers see the active shooter's vehicle in front of them, and rather than initiating a rolling gun battle, they won't say a word and will take the next exit out of self preservation. It will start happening, the absolute courage to be in a gunfight will be there, but the fear of the consequences in this new era of extreme police accountably, will make them not engage.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...officer-never-went-school-during-n850441


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Re: Oklahoma officer takes out active shooter gets indicted for murder [Re: Roll-Tide] #7675402 11/29/19 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Roll-Tide
Texas has a peace officer exemption for situations like this. Chapter 9.51


That's not absolute. A prosecutor can still argue the officer's actions weren't reasonable under the circumstances. When you have words like reasonable and belief, they can always be argued. That's the problem I see with the direction things are going - lawyers are trying to change what is or is not reasonable for officers.


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Re: Oklahoma officer takes out active shooter gets indicted for murder [Re: Grizz] #7675407 11/29/19 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Grizz
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Texas has a peace officer exemption for situations like this. Chapter 9.51


That's not absolute. A prosecutor can still argue the officer's actions weren't reasonable under the circumstances. When you have words like reasonable and belief, they can always be argued. That's the problem I see with the direction things are going - lawyers are trying to change what is or is not reasonable for officers.


Yep. Just lawyers doing what lawyers do. Prostitutes are better people. At least they earn their money without having to lie or steal. Pardon my bitterness...

Re: Oklahoma officer takes out active shooter gets indicted for murder [Re: ntxtrapper] #7675499 11/29/19 03:18 PM
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He'll be found not guilty after a record short jury deliberation.


Hopefully so, sadly though he will be out about 30 grand for a jury trial defense as well as the stress of worrying about all this.

Isn’t there a police union or program that covers that as long as your found innocent?



Nope, the labor organizations make sure we don't get fired for no good reason and represent us for promotional issues ect ect, but if we get indicted, the monthly membership dues don't cover criminal defenses. He's in for a horrible ride unfortunately.


You need a better organization. DPA covers you until the guilty verdict is read.

Re: Oklahoma officer takes out active shooter gets indicted for murder [Re: ntxtrapper] #7675500 11/29/19 03:20 PM
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Many years ago I was issued discipline for not terminating a pursuit with armed robbery suspects because they were shooting at us during the pursuit. Never mind the fact that had robbed multiple businesses at gun point the days before, including that day just before the pursuit started, and had shot a few of the employees along the way.

It’s a sad new world

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Re: Oklahoma officer takes out active shooter gets indicted for murder [Re: ntxtrapper] #7675660 11/29/19 07:39 PM
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Your association is an anomaly in that regard.

Re: Oklahoma officer takes out active shooter gets indicted for murder [Re: Tin Head] #7675706 11/29/19 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Tin Head
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If stuff like this continues, things will go bad quickly. There will be a tipping point where officers see the active shooter's vehicle in front of them, and rather than initiating a rolling gun battle, they won't say a word and will take the next exit out of self preservation. It will start happening, the absolute courage to be in a gunfight will be there, but the fear of the consequences in this new era of extreme police accountably, will make them not engage.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...officer-never-went-school-during-n850441

The story you posted lacked what I highlighted in red.


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Re: Oklahoma officer takes out active shooter gets indicted for murder [Re: ntxtrapper] #7675820 11/30/19 12:57 AM
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Do they not have a TMPA or CLEAT type organization up there

Re: Oklahoma officer takes out active shooter gets indicted for murder [Re: ntxtrapper] #7675960 11/30/19 06:15 AM
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Re: Oklahoma officer takes out active shooter gets indicted for murder [Re: ntxtrapper] #7676143 11/30/19 03:51 PM
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Re: Oklahoma officer takes out active shooter gets indicted for murder [Re: Choctaw] #7676152 11/30/19 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Choctaw
Waiting for someone to chime in with the usual “I respect law enforcement but this was excessive.”

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