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SCOTUS turned away Remingtons appeal of Connecticut ruling.
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Not good. https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-supreme-court-not-shield-143055548.htmlU.S. Supreme Court will not shield gun maker from Sandy Hook lawsuit
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Re: SCOTUS turned away Remingtons appeal of Connecticut ruling.
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The Protection of lawful commerce in arms act is pretty clear to me. Gun manufacturers can not be held liable for criminal use of their products. They can still be held liable for defective products, breach of contract, criminal misconduct and Negligent Entrustment. It seems the loophole is the negligent entrustment. From what I gather, if they can prove that Remington sold the gun with the knowledge that it may be used to commit a crime, then Remington can be held liable. But, that would be like saying that Ford or Chevy could be held liable for selling a vehicle with the knowledge that it may be used by a drunk driver...or Bic could be held liable for selling a lighter with the knowledge that it may be used by an arsonist...or pick your product and pick your crime... This is a politically motivated lawsuit in a state that is not friendly to the 2nd ammendment. If they can't repeal the 2nd ammendment, they will try to sue it out of existence. I have a hard time seeing how the SCOTUS will not even hear the argument, but they won't.
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Re: SCOTUS turned away Remingtons appeal of Connecticut ruling.
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I thought the grounds was due to Remington's advertising. It allegedly targeted younger, at-risk males in marketing and product placement in violent video games.
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Re: SCOTUS turned away Remingtons appeal of Connecticut ruling.
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I thought the grounds was due to Remington's advertising. It allegedly targeted younger, at-risk males in marketing and product placement in violent video games. I could not find an article that clearly stated the suing party's argument. My last statement was taken from what the articles that I read stated. However, with this info,I think my argument still stands. How many Ford Mustangs and Chevy Cameros are and have been marketed to younger, at risk males that might use the product to drive drunk? Should Ford or Chevy be held liable for Drunk Driving deaths?
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Supreme Court Rules
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Re: Supreme Court Rules
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Surprising. So when do the lawsuits against Bud light,Budweiser,etc. Start for causing drunk driving deaths?
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Re: Supreme Court Rules
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The supreme court didn't rule. They didn't take up the argument.
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Re: Supreme Court Rules
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Re: Supreme Court Rules
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The supreme court didn't rule. They didn't take up the argument. This
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Re: Supreme Court Rules
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The supreme court didn't rule. They didn't take up the argument. This X3
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Re: Supreme Court Rules
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The supreme court didn't rule. They didn't take up the argument. True. That means the appeal has no merit and the lower court ruling stands unchallenged. Therefore the SCOTUS just ruled in favor of the lower court disregarding federal law and did it without a ruling. Awesome!!
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Re: Supreme Court Rules
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Re: Supreme Court Rules
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The supreme court didn't rule. They didn't take up the argument. True. That means the appeal has no merit and the lower court ruling stands unchallenged. Therefore the SCOTUS just ruled in favor of the lower court disregarding federal law and did it without a ruling. Awesome!! EXACTLY! Apologies to the semantical fanatics. Geez
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Re: SCOTUS turned away Remingtons appeal of Connecticut ruling.
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Re: SCOTUS turned away Remingtons appeal of Connecticut ruling.
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I thought the grounds was due to Remington's advertising. Dry Fire is correct. Given the focus of the suit, it was allowed to continue. The decline to intervene is not an indication it will win Charlie
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Re: SCOTUS turned away Remingtons appeal of Connecticut ruling.
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I thought the grounds was due to Remington's advertising. Dry Fire is correct. Given the focus of the suit, it was allowed to continue. The decline to intervene is not an indication it will win Charlie This, poor families are going to be paying some hefty legal bills and counter suits
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Re: Supreme Court Rules
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Every news report that I've seen says something different...
"The Supreme Court on Tuesday turned down a request from the gun industry intended to block a lawsuit from families of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting victims.
The decision lets stand a groundbreaking ruling from the Connecticut Supreme Court that said the manufacturer of the Bushmaster AR-15-style semiautomatic rifle can be sued and potentially held liable for the 2012 massacre in Newtown, Conn."
"Supreme Court Allows Sandy Hook Families' Case Against Remington Arms To Proceed"
"Supreme Court allows families of Sandy Hook shooting victims to sue gunmaker Remington"
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Re: Supreme Court Rules
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Re: Supreme Court Rules
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What is disconcerting is that the Supremes declined to shield the gun maker. This opens up a huge can of worms.
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Re: Supreme Court Rules
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What is disconcerting is that the Supremes declined to shield the gun maker. This opens up a huge can of worms. This^^^^...and not just for gun makers....add the seller....ammo maker and seller....etc.
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Re: Supreme Court Rules
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What is disconcerting is that the Supremes declined to shield the gun maker. This opens up a huge can of worms. This^^^^...and not just for gun makers....add the seller....ammo maker and seller....etc. Yep and beer for drunk driving, cars manufactures for accidents, even gas stations for selling gasoline used in car that caused accident. The whole thing is idiotic.
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Re: Supreme Court Rules
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What is disconcerting is that the Supremes declined to shield the gun maker. This opens up a huge can of worms. This^^^^...and not just for gun makers....add the seller....ammo maker and seller....etc. Yep and beer for drunk driving, cars manufactures for accidents, even gas stations for selling gasoline used in car that caused accident. The whole thing is idiotic. As usual the left wants to blame anyone and everyone except the guilty person.....be it pulling the trigger, getting behind the wheel, or choosing to do drugs or spend thousands on a worthless degree....it's always somebody else's fault....
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Re: Supreme Court Rules
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Re: Supreme Court Rules
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True freedom cannot exist without personal responsibility; the two are inseparable. People don't want freedom anymore.............they just want free.
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Re: Supreme Court Rules
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True freedom cannot exist without personal responsibility; the two are inseparable. People don't want freedom anymore.............they just want free. Sad but true.
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