This is a feeler and I'm throwing this out to see what kind of interest we get. This won't be just a THF thing, it will be advertised other places as well because we want a large turnout.

Myself and Vesperman Sr. are throwing around the idea of starting a 22LR league. We've both been holding matches and have decided we should just consolidate our efforts and make it into a points race league with bigger prizes and payouts.

We'd be shooting 6 matches a year with at least 3 required. The matches will span March through August. At the end of the season your top 3 scoring matches will be used for your points.

We're planning on getting some sponsors and going to try giving away a nice optic to the shooter of the year.

The entry fee for each match is still TBD, but we're thinking along the lines of $30 per match. With a 25% payout to 1st, 2nd, and 3rd of each match. The other 25% will be held in escrow for the end of the season to be paid out to the top 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place in the points race. Along with other prizes from our sponsors.

We already have a North West range and want to get a range in the North East area so it isn't in the same place every time and so that some of the North Eastern guys can participate without driving very far. I'm searching for a range at the moment, but so far haven't gotten very far. If we do not find a range towards the East all 6 matches will be held at the West range. Although not ideal, we can't make range owners let us use their ranges. Also at $30 per match it doesn't generate enough money to pay out the top three shooters and rent the range so we're also running into that logistical problem.

Like I said this is a feeler at the moment and trying to gauge interest in it.

Please let me know if you'd be interested in doing something like this.

I am very interested. Thanks for this effort Kyle!

I'm guessing these are the lay on your belly style matches rather than something more... dynamic?

Thanks Tim, will be nice to have you!


These are very dynamic matches. More like a PRS style match than a bench match. Ranges from 25-200 yards and we'll possibly even go further. Several position changes throughout the course of fire. The one I did on October 19th I think we only used the prone position on one or two stages.

I'm in of course, congrats to you and Vesperman Sr. putting this together. would WALTER at poetry gun club do this? maybe north Texas shooters> i guess they already do these matches though.

anyone with a .22 repeater should be in on these. i'm old and cant shoot for chit anymore but this is great trigger time and FUN shooting with a bunch of good guys and gals. not just punchin paper,

ya'll come to these, i'll be dead azz last, so come ob,

I was talking with a few guys about Poetry and they were under the impression you could not shoot steel at Poetry. If this is the case it is a no go for our match. Also it needs to be within 1 hour of Sherman, because I'll have to drive it the day before to setup the range for the next day. I do not want to be driving 6 hours in 2 days for the matches. Like I said previously if we can not find an East range we'll just do them all at the West range.

Color me in also.....

Mark me down

Keep me informed as things move forward I'm intrested.

Thanks guys please keep the interest coming. Any updates to this will be posted in this thread so stay posted.

I'm interested. What kind of setups are you thinking? Need to be a semi-auto for follow ups like JG's prairie dog or bolts will be ok?

Bolt guns are fine 10 round mag preferable, but not necessary.

Tomorrow I’ll try to find my previous course of fire and post it for reference of what a match might consist of.

Definitely interested but same question as tlew what kind of 22lrs would be used? I'd have to buy one cause all I have is a little rossi, but would definitely be worth it, never been to a match sounds like alot of fun

Never mind just saw your response lol

K, you know I am in.

Where is the west range located?

West range is in Valley View Texas.

Hey all, dont let the word "competition" scare you off from enjoying this REALLY fun, inexpensive, shooting league. Valley View may not be as close as your favorite golf course but we gotta keep the shooting sports alive, especially for our younger shooters.

.22lr is the most fun gun to shoot cuz you dont have to spend $5,000 on your rig and ammo is Cheap compared to your old .270/30,06.

Like said above any repeater bolt gun (Savage, Tikka, Remmy, Marlin, Winchester, TC), etc. OR the famous Ruger 10/22. Put a nice SWFA , or Meopta, which will focus down to 25 yards is perfect. If I remember there was a shooter with beater Savage or Marlin bolt gun with a great scope place VERY near the top a couple matches ago.

Matches are VERY well run with SAFTEY being the main goal.

I’m in... been wanting to do this for a while now.

Below is a sample course of fire, this is the course of fire that I ran at my October 19th match. This would obviously change match to match, but this is a nice sample of what a match could look like.




Stage 1 25, 50, 75, 100, 125
10 Rounds | 1 Point Per Hit | 1.5 Minutes
Shooter will start in port arms position. On the shoot command the shooter will engage the 25 yard target standing off-hand. Shooter will then engage to the 50 yard target in the kneeling position. Shooter will then engage the 75 yard target in the sitting position. Shooter will then move to the bench in the kneeling position engage the 100 yard target. Shooter will then engage the 125 yard target in the same position. BIPOD ONLY no bags or rest of any kind.

Stage 2 100 Yard TYL
10 Rounds | 1 Point Per Hit | 1 Minute
Shooter will start standing with gun on bench. On the shoot command the shooter will sit down and engage the largest plate at 100 yards. You must hit to move to next plate. If the shooter makes it to the smallest plate continue to shoot this plate for extra points until out of ammo.

Stage 3 150 Yard TYL Prone
10 Rounds | 1 Point Per Hit | 1 Minute
Shooter will start standing with gun on shooting mat. On the shoot command the shooter will lie down prone and engage the largest plate at 150 yards. You must hit to move to next plate. If the shooter makes it to the smallest plate continue to shoot this plate for extra points until out of ammo.

Stage 4 Barricade 25, 50, 75, 100, 125
10 Rounds | 1 Point Per Hit | 2 Minutes
Shooter will start in port arms position. On the shoot command the shooter will start on the top position on the barricade. The shooter can engage which ever distance they feel comfortable with, but they have to call out the distance before they fire to let the spotter know which target to glass. Failure to call out your distance before shooting will result in a no hit. 2 rounds per target and move in order of the steps on the barricade with the window being the last position. Can only use bag and bipod

Stage 5 Ladder 100 Yard TYL
10 Rounds | 1 Point Per Hit | 1.5 Minute
Shooter will start in port arms position. On the shoot command the shooter will use the rope attached to the ladder as a rest and engage the largest plate at 100 yards. You must hit to move to next plate. If the shooter makes it to the smallest plate continue to shoot this plate for extra points until out of ammo. No other supports or rest can be used besides the provided rope.

Stage 6 Roof Top 50, 75, 100
9 Rounds | 1 Point Per Hit | 2 Minutes
Shooter will start in port arms position on their strong side of the roof top. On the shoot command the shooter will engage the 50 continue to 75 yards and 100 yards. The shooter will then move to roof top and engage the 50, 75, and 100 yards plates. The shooter will then move to weak side and engage the 50, 75, and 100 yard plates. 1 shot per plate, if you miss move on. Bag and Bipod only.

Stage 7 200 Yard Prone or Bench No Dial
10 Rounds | 1 Point Per Hit | 1.5 Minutes
Shooter will start in standing position. On the shoot command the shooter will get behind their rifle and engage the 200 yard plate. Once the shooter hits the 200 yard plate they must move to the 100 yard plate and make a hit before moving back to 200. Continue to do this until out of ammo.

Stage 8 50 and 100 Yard Dot Drill
10 Rounds | 1 Point Per Hit | 1.5 Minutes
Shooter will start behind their rifle. On the shoot command the shooter will engage the 50 yard paper with their shooter number on it. When the shooter has shot 5 shots at the 50 yard paper the shooter will then engage the 100 yard paper with their shooter number. 5 shots only at each distance. If you fire more than 5 shots at either distance the number of shots will be deducted from hits made.

Stage 9 Pure Holds Prone 100, 125, 150, 175, 200
10 Rounds | 1 Point Per Hit | 2
Shooter will start standing. On the shoot command the shooter will get behind their gun and engage the 100 yard plate (largest TYL) with 2 rounds. Shooter will then move to the 125 yard plate and engage with 2 rounds. Shooter will then move to the 150 yard plate and engage with 2 rounds and so on. Shooter cannot touch their dial after the first round has been fired. Bag and Bipod ONLY

Stage 10 50 Yard KYL
5 Rounds | 1 point 1st hit, 3 points 2nd hit, 5 points 3rd hit, 8 points 4th hit, 12 points 5th hit| 1 Minute
Shooter will start behind their rifle. On the shoot command the shooter will engage the 50 yard KYL rack starting with the largest target. The shooter can stop at any time and take their points. If the shooter misses at any time they lose all points. If the shooter makes it to the smallest target a wiggle of the target will be counted as a hit, but only on the target itself. If you hit the hanger it will be counted as a miss. The hangers will be painted and the spotters will be able to see hits on them. If a shooter does hit the hanger the RO will call a cease fire before the next shooter and repaint the hanger only, not the target.

Also, NRL 22 publishes each months Course of Fire on their site.

i get my new knee in July, Is there any grace for the "permanently' handicap old f's ???

I can bring my blue hanger for proof...........

or Yall can help me up off the ground.

actually i HAVE to lose at least 60# before my doc will give me a new knee. no more good stuff

Lol sorry Buzz you got to run it same as everyone else. You better get the first 3 shoots in for the year before July.

yep, I plan on it

God Bless Drugs

Very interested thanks for doing this
Willing to volunteer help

recently got a Ruger american and today a nice used Weaver 6-24x42 arrived. Not the best for turret elevation changes (not a micro-trac) , but its all about fun anyway

Glad to have you come out my buddy shot the first one with my Ruger American Rimfire Target rifle an I think he got 5th. He got 2nd at the last match.

That’s wild, but sounds really fun at the same time! This will all be new to me, so I appreciate the best 3 of 6 scores. I’m sure it will take me a couple to figure out how it goes.

You got any videos of this kind of thing we can see?

Only videos I have are of the centerfire matches none of the 22 match but if you look up NRL22 it will give you some reference but we do shoot further than they do.

Here’s what I found

Interested depending on distance from Lubbock and my schedule. Shoot NRL22 now but always looking for other challenges.

Quality of equipment doesn't matter. Its on the shooter


I am proof of this

Some good info in that video. We shoot double what the NRL22 guys do though. Takes a lot to set these matches up and for you guys to get to them and entry fees just to come pop off 50 rounds of 22 and leave. I try to make it worth the shooters while as well as my own.

We're going to be right on 35 and east of 35 so will be a pretty good drive from Lubbock.

I am in for sure! For those asking about equipment, I shot the first .22 match with a Glenfield model 25 (bolt) with a 7 round magazine. It had a cheap redfield scope that only dialed down to 50 yards. I placed solidly middle of the pack. I had less than $200 total in my whole rig. So, yes, you can shoot this without dropping a bunch of dough. Although, you will have so much fun, that you will probably be spurred into spending a little $ on a new rifle/scope afterwards!

Yeah that's a haul. I may can make a couple. Who knows... I'll keep tabs on it and see what it looks like.

This sounds like it will be a blast I am very interested cannot wait to get more specific info.

We are still trying to hammer stuff down but I start vacation today and won’t be back until the 2nd of December. Still have a lot of logistics to work out on the backend, but stay tuned to this thread any new info I’ll post in here.

Can someone make suggestions for basic/minimum shooting accessories ? Currently have a caldwell tack-driver bag. Are you guys shooting prone on the ground, etc. While the videos help, just wonder what you all might do differently. thanks

I see this info on nrl22
. The course of fire will always be 2 prone stages, 1 positional, 1 barricade and a 5th that can be any of those things.

another question, is membership in NRL22 required or suggested ?

Only accessories I use and a lot of the other guys use are a bag, bipod, and gun. Some of the guys have a ton of accessories but it’s not needed.

Our course of fire is different than NRL22. We come up with course of fires ourselves.

No membership needed.

thanks, somehow I did not see the LONG post you made about a previous course of fire lol. reading it now.

This is going to be a lot of fun , I cannot wait

I will participate

getting ready... newly arrived CZ457. This will be my third CZ rimfire, the other two were 452's. which I don't have anymore...

Oh wow... that’s a pretty one!

thanks

perfect!! great gun

just in case this interests someone..

Best Pawn in Sherman has CCI green tag, about $9/100
a few boxes of RWS special match. Kind of a wide selection overall.
I got his last few boxes each of the RWS orange and RWS yellow, but he mentioned he would be ordering more.

Anywhere else in North Texas sell high end .22lr ammo? SK, Lapua, eley, Norma, wolf match? I will check the pawn shop in Sherman, but surely someone else sells it local where you don’t have to order, right?

I do not think the best pawn on parkway sales any of the high end stuff. I had to get all mine on midway. I still have a bunch of each left over if you just want to try them.

Deal. Thanks Kyle that’s very kind of you! I’m gonna pay you something for them though. I’ll shoot you a PM later and see when works good for you to meet up

Dammit Kyle, two post above your's literally Kyle... I knew I read it somewhere Greg, I just forgot it was in here

Ok, here’s what I’ve got so far.

I figure I’ll place an order from midway for some sk, Norma, Lapua, and wolf. Hoping I find something it likes and don’t have to buy a new barrel The receiver feels and cycles great, but I’m not so sure I like the tac-sol barrel that came with it.

Hell, I do not even know if mine will cycle lol.

Greg, try cci standard velocity. It's been more accurate for me than some of what you have pictured.

Thx bubba! I’ll add it to the pile

Wow, the first shoot in March is gonna be GREAT with all these shooters, new guns, etc....really looking forward to it!

has a firm date been set for March??

Was just commenting on Kyles proposed schedule........

No definite dates have been hammered down yet, but we have contacted several ranges and they either want too much money or have flat told us no. So looks like all matches will be held in Valley View.

Thankful for one range and your hard work !

Me too, Thanks Kyle! I’ve been lurking and wanting to be a part of these in the past. I’ll probably come in DAL, but I don’t care. I’m just looking forward to meeting all you guys and having a great time!

This has got my interest.

Count me in for next year sounds like a blast

So how big are the plates we are shooting at, and at what distances will we see the different sizes?

Most of the targets are very generous, anywhere from 2 MOA up to 6-8 MOA at longer ranges (max 200 yards). KYL and Black Death have smaller targets but those are optional.

What Chris said. We don’t know distances or what size plate until we make the course of fire for that particular match.

The gun to beat....
......ain’t this one due to the shooter behind it....but she sho is sexy!!!!

It’s gonna be a fun league.....thanks, Kyle for getting it going!

super sweeeet

Yeah that’s sharp! What all are we looking at?

Greg, it’s a 10-22, Brownells receiver, Kidd bolt and Ruger BX trigger. Volquartson carbon fiber barrel. All put together in a Archangel stock. 20 MOA riser and Athlon Midas TAC scope. She’s really purdy but only shoots 1 MOA..so nothing to be scared of.

sand bagger

Moi?

Gun masters in Plano has SK long range match and a box or three of centerx

How do you like that stock?

I like it a lot, Wade, due to the adjustability.....but be prepared to do 20-30 minutes of Dremel work.

Looks like it belongs in the hands of a storm trooper

First 3 match dates are below.

Saturday February 29th

Saturday March 28th

Saturday May 9th

Please mark your calendars and start planning for the matches. Registration will be up on my website tomorrow morning and I’ll post a link here.

What is the range location for these upcoming matches?

Valley View TX off Interstate 35.

Out for 5/9, will be getting my string stretched by magnum smallies and walleye on Erie.....should make others, will go to your site, Kyle.

No problem we’ll have 3 other matches after the first 3.

looks good Sir. Might not make the 28th...Trap shoot, Waco the next day. Yes. I said TRAP. LOL!!!

Sounds good Kylie

Awesome Kyle and thanks for organizing this.

In! May have a friend join as well. We are in the process of building up his old ruger now.

This seems like a lot of work for Kyle do you need some help.

Appreciate it but I have lots of help with the cohost and range owner. This is a partnership between us so I’m not doing all the work got a few guys working on it with me.

Will there be any days where the range is open for practice?

Just an FYI guys before each match we’ll be having a range day so that you guys can come out and shoot on the actual range at each distance to help you guys get Dope for your rifles and get families with the range. No course of fire, but will be good practice before the match to help everyone out. Would be $10 per person for the day.

Ha was just posting this when you posted.

Is the registration place up yet? Just looked at the "graphic stuff" and was unable to see it, thanks again Kyle for doing this.

Not yet bud, will be up by Thursday at the latest. I’m building a dedicated website for the league.

Also want to add any kids 15 and under that are shooting in the league are free on the range day with paying adult. This is only on the range day. Kids still have to register and pay to shoot in league.

Kids are welcome to come and compete we encourage this to be a stepping stone to centerfire competition so if you guys have any kiddos that want to compete bring them out. If you need to share a gun that is fine, but let us know when we’re making squads.

We are thinking 10 and over and they must follow gun safety.

Kyle, I am going to need you to move these matches closer to the Rockwall/Greenville area. Please and Thank You

Tried several different ranges on the east side. They either told us flat no or they want too much money for range fees. At $30 per match we just can’t pay what they’re asking. Also don’t want to have 6 matches a year and charge $50+ per match.

You and Jeremy should just carpool and split the gas money lol.

Well, thats probably better for all you fools. It would get a little redundant me taking the podium every match.

ETA: $50 a match doesnt sound unreasonable to me really as long as its not a 4 hour round trip.

How many are you expecting a match?

No clue yet got a lot of interest but we’ll see how the registration goes.

Guys, got the website framework done today and it somewhat functioning. Got the registration for the February 29th shoot up though.

Please visit https://ntxrleague.com/ to register.

Guys, I need a do over.

I decided to go with Practiscore for our registration, payment, and squading solution. For the 2 guys that already registered and payed through PayPal I've issued refunds. Please reregister the link is the same as before.

When you click on register on the website you'll be taken to the NTxR League Dashboard. Under active matches you'll see the match for Feb 29th. Please click that and register.

Practiscore didn't allow a shirt option so if you're interested in a match shirt please just PM. Thanks

Website is looking awesome dude this is going to be a blast

in

Thanks, I’ve had limited time to work on it only a couple hours so far but will have a lot more content coming and after the first match will have more pictures and video to flesh it out.

It’s coming up quick guys get your practice in and get registered.


We will be doing a 50% payout to shooters. Will be per match and at the end of the season we will have a payout to the overall points leaders. We’re in the process of getting sponsors for good prize table prizes as well.

We’ll be having a range day at the range for shooters to get acclimated to the range and get the dope for your rifles. February 8th 9am-2pm adults are registered adults are $10 and kids are free. Please pm for details if you’re interested.

Thanks

you ever run .22 pistol matches? built this guy 2 years ago, and never shot in a match. May end up selling it if i don't get into the competitions soon.

That is a nice looking piece, at the moment this is rifle only. Depending on traction we get we might have a pistol match and even extend it to other rimfire calibers like 17HMR (Yea I'm looking at you Josh).

O, so i build the rifle and then you decided to change your mind... Dammit Kyle!!!

Lol it would be an all 17 match not a 22 vs 17 match

This is one of the many reasons I hate you... Just sayin

Oh, so all of us have to build a 17 to match beez?

Lol I won’t be building one, I’ll just be RO’ing.

Nice , I built one also that I’ve barely shot

me too, really fun shooters. i sold this one, then had another built

i cant afford another $2500 just to shoot 2beeeez new side match

No, you could go with a bone stock Savage and be competetive for 1/8th the cost.

If you guys were planning to register you might want to get on the ball. Only 8 spots left for the match on the 29th.

You guys will want to come to all 6 matches, we will be having good prize table stuff of good cash payouts for shooter of the year (most combined points from all 6 matches) for both 1st and 2nd. We'll also be having a lesser prize for the best average over 3 matches for the guys that don't get to come to all matches you still have a chance at winning something. There will be other cash and prizes given out as well. Cash payouts at all matches to top 3 shooters.

I signed up yesterday. Gonna be fun and humbling.